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LIVE COVERAGE: Active shooter in custody at Santa Fe HS***[W:13]***[W:1213]

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tres borrachos said:
They better add a lot. Because the one they had in this school today sadly wasn't able to stop him before he shot 20 people, including the security guard, and killed 9 children and an adult.

The TX Lieutenant Governor shared his brilliant idea. Limiting access to only one entrance and one exit per school. That won't be a violation of the fire codes or anything for the schools with 1200 kids in them.
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I was just about to mention the Texas lieutenant governor’s proposal.

Has he never heard of fire codes
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
I was just about to mention the Texas lieutenant governor’s proposal.

Has he never heard of fire codes
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I suspect not. If he had, he forgot about them already.

He actually should be scorned for that idiotic beyond compare idea.

Maybe he wants to look up the Station Nightclub Fire or the Coconut Grove fire and see how well it works when you don't have enough exists. And in both of those stories, the number of people who were trying to get out was a fraction of the population of my kids' high school.
 
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tres borrachos said:
I suspect not. If he had, he forgot about them already.

He actually should be scorned for that idiotic beyond compare idea.

Maybe he wants to look up the Station Nightclub Fire or the Coconut Grove fire and see how well it works when you don't have enough exists. And in both of those stories, the number of people who were trying to get out was a fraction of the population of my kids' high school.
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There is also the shirtwaist triangle fire, the Iroquois theatre fire, among others.
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
There is also the shirtwaist triangle fire, the Iroquois theatre fire, among others.
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The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire was a terrible horrific tragedy, but at least it resulted in some good. All the fire codes in NYC were changed because of it. And that was the beginning of the end of exploiting immigrant workers and children for peanuts.

Yup, the Lieutenant Governor in Texas is absolutely a moron for even thinking that, let alone suggesting it.
 
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tres borrachos said:
The Shirtwaist Triangle Factory fire was a terrible horrific tragedy, but at least it resulted in some good. All the fire codes in NYC were changed because of it. And that was the beginning of the end of exploiting immigrant workers for peanuts.

Yup, the Lieutenant Governor in Texas is absolutely a moron for even thinking that, let alone suggesting it.
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Maybe he was thinking of a song by the doors and blurted out the name of the band.
 
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So looks like he will be charged with capital murder, so something I can't seem to find and I may be totally blind as I was attempting to look this up, but can a 17 year old be sentenced to death in Texas?

I mean presumably by the time of the actual execution he could be a couple of years older, whats the minimum age in Texas someone can be sentenced to death at?
 
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Jetboogieman said:
So looks like he will be charged with capital murder, so something I can't seem to find and I may be totally blind as I was attempting to look this up, but can a 17 year old be sentenced to death in Texas?

I mean presumably by the time of the actual execution he could be a couple of years older, whats the minimum age in Texas someone can be sentenced to death at?
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Yup, minimum age is 10.
 
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tres borrachos said:
Yup, minimum age is 10.
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****ing... Ten Years Old?

Jumping Jehosaphat, that is ****ing mental.

I mean I'm not arguing perhaps this prick might deserve it as its a clear cut case although I'm against the death penalty generally, but wow... That's... Ten!?!?!?!?!?!?!
 
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tres borrachos said:
Yup, minimum age is 10
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You're probably kidding, but if you're not then you're completely wrong

Jetboogieman said:
So looks like he will be charged with capital murder, so something I can't seem to find and I may be totally blind as I was attempting to look this up, but can a 17 year old be sentenced to death in Texas?

I mean presumably by the time of the actual execution he could be a couple of years older, whats the minimum age in Texas someone can be sentenced to death at?
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Minimum age for DP is 18: https://capitalpunishmentincontext.org/issues/juveniles
 
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Jetboogieman said:
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****ing... Ten Years Old?

Jumping Jehosaphat, that is ****ing mental.

I mean I'm not arguing perhaps this prick might deserve it as its a clear cut case although I'm against the death penalty generally, but wow... That's... Ten!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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No, I just made that part up.

I don't think he can, no. Isn't the mandatory minimum age in this country 18?
 
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tres borrachos said:
They better add a lot. Because the one they had in this school today sadly wasn't able to stop him before he shot 20 people, including the security guard, and killed 9 children and an adult.

The TX Lieutenant Governor shared his brilliant idea. Limiting access to only one entrance and one exit per school. That won't be a violation of the fire codes or anything for the schools with 1200 kids in them.
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What we are presently calling security isn't security. There is simply no way a single person can do that job properly.

How about zero entrances that aren't actively monitored during school hours?

The only thing stopping us from securing schools is the lack of will to do it, mainly because our tears for the innocent dry up mighty fast when we get the bill.
 
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I think life in prison is much worse than a quick lethal injection
 
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tres borrachos said:
No, I just made that part up.

I don't think he can, no. Isn't the mandatory minimum age in this country 18?
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Weird... Joke there Tres, I thought honestly they would never actually go ahead and execute anyone under 18 lets say, but that it was one of those things in the US you find where it's still whats on the books.
 
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WillyPete said:
What we are presently calling security isn't security. There is simply no way a single person can do that job properly.

How about zero entrances that aren't actively monitored during school hours?

The only thing stopping us from securing school is the lack of will to do it, mainly because our tears for the innocent dry up mighty fast when we get the bill.
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There are over 100,000 public schools in this country. That is a lot of people needed if the answer is "school security".
 
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Desert Storm said:
I think life in prison is much worse than a quick lethal injection
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In America yes, because we love to brutalize prisoners, we are more often interested in retribution (So-called Justice for the victims) than we are in justice.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Weird... Joke there Tres, I thought honestly they would never actually go ahead and execute anyone under 18 lets say, but that it was one of those things in the US you find where it's still whats on the books.
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Trying to lighten this thread. I just watched a few minutes of the news on this story and got upset again.

SCOTUS said 18 is the minimum age in any state in the country, around 2005 I think. We don't execute children. It could be on the books somewhere, in some state, that you can execute someone under 18, but it won't happen.
 
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Desert Storm said:
I think life in prison is much worse than a quick lethal injection
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Unfortunately, there wouldn't be a quick lethal injection; 20 years later he'll be still living at tax payers expenses.
 
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Texas spared the life of Bart Whitaker this year, and if anyone deserved death, it was that son of a bitch. Google him if you don't know who he is. They commuted his sentence right before he was set to be executed to life in prison.
 
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tres borrachos said:
There are over 100,000 public schools in this country. That is a lot of people needed if the answer is "school security".
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So jobs and school spending are bad?

There's an old line that goes "...the important things are simple, and the simple things are hard."

My read is we either secure the schools, or stop being surprised when the schools aren't secure.

If you have a better option, I'm open.
 
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tres borrachos said:
Trying to lighten this thread. I just watched a few minutes of the news on this story and got upset again.

SCOTUS said 18 is the minimum age in any state in the country, around 2005 I think. We don't execute children. It could be on the books somewhere, in some state, that you can execute someone under 18, but it won't happen.
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Finally found it, prior to the SC decision in 2005 the minimum age WAS 17 in Texas.
 
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WillyPete said:
So jobs and school spending are bad?

There's an old line that goes "...the important things are simple, and the simple things are hard."

My read is we either secure the schools, or stop being surprised when the schools aren't secure.

If you have a better option, I'm open.
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I'm not thrilled with the prospect of this expenditure being reflected in my taxes.

I'm not creating these losers, raising them, or bullying them.

But it seems I'll be paying for them...including life in prison for this most recent loser.
 
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I predict these school shootings will end soon
Most schools are out for the summer in a few weeks
 
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WillyPete said:
So jobs and school spending are bad?

There's an old line that goes "...the important things are simple, and the simple things are hard."

My read is we either secure the schools, or stop being surprised when the schools aren't secure.

If you have a better option, I'm open.
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I can't answer your first question, since I didn't say anything even close to that. Maybe you can ask someone else if jobs and school spending is bad.

I don't have any options to offer. I'm the mother of 2 kids in high school. I texted them and ordered them home today right after this happened. I can't imagine what the parents of the dead children are going through right now. The thoughts and prayers everyone offers is nifty. The suggestion by the Lieutenant Governor is offensive. The Republicans will do nothing. The Democrats will try to implement some kind of gun control again.

And today 9 kids went to school on a Friday at the end of their school year, and came home in body bags.

I don't know what should be done.
 
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Lursa said:
I'm not thrilled with the prospect of this expenditure being reflected in my taxes.

I'm not creating these losers, raising them, or bullying them.

But it seems I'll be paying for them...including life in prison for this most recent loser.
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If I had a dollar for every annoying thing our taxes pay for, I could afford my taxes.

Would we agree on loosening restrictions on and expediting executions? I figure 1 year, max for appeal without demonstrable cause that they need more, and then a bullet in the back of the head.

We've turned these things into pageants.
 
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