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The story behind the viral photo of a Kent State graduate posing with her cap — and a rifle

Khayembii Communique said:
Good for her. She's a nutjob.
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I carried a rifle most all of the time I was in the military but now only carry one to & from my target range. I wouldn't walk around with a rifle in public unless I were going to a target range elsewhere but I support her right & the right of others to do so.

The term "nutjob" implies that she's mentally ill and/or a danger to herself or others. How do you support that assessment?
 
B'smith said:
I carried a rifle most all of the time I was in the military but now only carry one to & from my target range. I wouldn't walk around with a rifle in public unless I were going to a target range elsewhere
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Because you recognize how freaking bizarre it is.

but I support her right & the right of others to do so.

The term "nutjob" implies that she's mentally ill and/or a danger to herself or others. How do you support that assessment?
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She's socially awkward at the very least. She's definitely a weirdo. She likely has a screw loose. Most of these gun nuts do.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Because you recognize how freaking bizarre it is.
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I really wish this kind of thing could be understood better by both sides about a whole host of things.

There is a huge difference between saying you CAN'T do something like that and saying it's weird, or bizarre, or unsettling, or unusual to do something.

It's a certain level of societal tact and understanding, it's a level of internal introspection and concern and consideration for your fellow man, and it's a level of understanding that the world is not a movie/book with you as the starring actor.

Can you go walk out in the middle of the street with a AR-15 strapped to your back? Or with your ass hanging out of chaps? Or dressed in drag? Or wearing a "[Politician] is Hitler" sign? Or a confederate flag shirt in Massachusetts? Or having gauge piercings all through your face while dressed in all black?

Sure. You absolutely can.

But if you do it expecting people to just treat you as a "normal" person going about an "every day" routine that is not "weird" then you're frankly either being willfully ignorant or you're so egotistical and uncaring that you don't even have the ability to understand or empathize with society at large. Now if you go out, recognize you're going to be looked at as strange or weird or unsettling, and you accept that and the realities that such a thing causes...cool, more power to you.

None of this means you can't do it. Doesn't even mean you SHOULDN'T do it. What it does mean is you shouldn't do it and then act aghast or confused or insulted or indignant that people treat your odd and unusual public presentation as they would any other odd and unusual public presentation.

I'd say people need to use some common sense, but often that's not even the problem because the reality is that often times when people make it a point to be as brazenly outside the norm as possible in public, the kind of attention they get is specifically the kind of attention they WANT to get for one reason or another (whether it's to draw attention to themselves or a "cause", or to feed their desire to be a victim or "nonconformist", etc)
 
Zyphlin said:
I really wish this kind of thing could be understood better by both sides about a whole host of things.

There is a huge difference between saying you CAN'T do something like that and saying it's weird, or bizarre, or unsettling, or unusual to do something.

It's a certain level of societal tact and understanding, it's a level of internal introspection and concern and consideration for your fellow man, and it's a level of understanding that the world is not a movie/book with you as the starring actor.

Can you go walk out in the middle of the street with a AR-15 strapped to your back? Or with your ass hanging out of chaps? Or dressed in drag? Or wearing a "[Politician] is Hitler" sign? Or a confederate flag shirt in Massachusetts? Or having gauge piercings all through your face while dressed in all black?

Sure. You absolutely can.

But if you do it expecting people to just treat you as a "normal" person going about an "every day" routine that is not "weird" then you're frankly either being willfully ignorant or you're so egotistical and uncaring that you don't even have the ability to understand or empathize with society at large. Now if you go out, recognize you're going to be looked at as strange or weird or unsettling, and you accept that and the realities that such a thing causes...cool, more power to you.

None of this means you can't do it. Doesn't even mean you SHOULDN'T do it. What it does mean is you shouldn't do it and then act aghast or confused or insulted or indignant that people treat your odd and unusual public presentation as they would any other odd and unusual public presentation.

I'd say people need to use some common sense, but often that's not even the problem because the reality is that often times when people make it a point to be as brazenly outside the norm as possible in public, the kind of attention they get is specifically the kind of attention they WANT to get for one reason or another (whether it's to draw attention to themselves or a "cause", or to feed their desire to be a victim or "nonconformist", etc)
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Though I don't agree with every last word of this post, as it applies to the free-speech warriors it is dead on.
 
Zyphlin said:
I really wish this kind of thing could be understood better by both sides about a whole host of things.

There is a huge difference between saying you CAN'T do something like that and saying it's weird, or bizarre, or unsettling, or unusual to do something.

It's a certain level of societal tact and understanding, it's a level of internal introspection and concern and consideration for your fellow man, and it's a level of understanding that the world is not a movie/book with you as the starring actor.

Can you go walk out in the middle of the street with a AR-15 strapped to your back? Or with your ass hanging out of chaps? Or dressed in drag? Or wearing a "[Politician] is Hitler" sign? Or a confederate flag shirt in Massachusetts? Or having gauge piercings all through your face while dressed in all black?

Sure. You absolutely can.

But if you do it expecting people to just treat you as a "normal" person going about an "every day" routine that is not "weird" then you're frankly either being willfully ignorant or you're so egotistical and uncaring that you don't even have the ability to understand or empathize with society at large. Now if you go out, recognize you're going to be looked at as strange or weird or unsettling, and you accept that and the realities that such a thing causes...cool, more power to you.

None of this means you can't do it. Doesn't even mean you SHOULDN'T do it. What it does mean is you shouldn't do it and then act aghast or confused or insulted or indignant that people treat your odd and unusual public presentation as they would any other odd and unusual public presentation.

I'd say people need to use some common sense, but often that's not even the problem because the reality is that often times when people make it a point to be as brazenly outside the norm as possible in public, the kind of attention they get is specifically the kind of attention they WANT to get for one reason or another (whether it's to draw attention to themselves or a "cause", or to feed their desire to be a victim or "nonconformist", etc)
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People equate pointing out how socially inept these people are with a desire to confiscate guns.

The fact is that there are only two people who would bring an AR-10 onto a college campus: campus shooters, and gun rights nuts. They're both mentally unstable. There's no reason to have an AR-10 on a college campus. No normal, sane, well-adjusted person would do that.
 
Phys251 said:
Wonder how this story would have played out had she been a black man walking around campus with a long gun.
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Same as with her, assuming his message was in support of the Second Amendment.
 
Threegoofs said:
Kent State graduate Kaitlin Bennett: Why she posed with her AR-10 for a photo - The Washington Post



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love the attention whore who is pretending she isn't an attention whore and whines about people being 'racist' to her.

Well, as they say... kent read, kent write? KENT STATE!
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How does qualify as breaking news?
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Anyone that thinks there's a reason to have an AR-10 on a college campus is a nutjob.
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If somebody had had one at University of Texas campus all those years ago, it might have saved a few lives.

If somebody had one at Virginia Tech a few years ago, it might have saved a few lives. Columbine too. Parkland too. Get a grip.

Without the cop with a pistol in Dixon IL yesterday returning fire, who knows what might have come next.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
The fact is that there are only two people who would bring an AR-10 onto a college campus: campus shooters, and gun rights nuts. They're both mentally unstable. There's no reason to have an AR-10 on a college campus. No normal, sane, well-adjusted person would do that.
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I'd say in general, I agree. I'd say in general, because I hate extremes and absolutes.

I don't think you need to be a "gun rights nut" to own an AR-10. As such, a friend visiting their buddy at college after just purchasing their new AR-10 and wanting to show it to them, is a perfectly normal, sane, well adjusted reason why someone may have one on campus. Someone engaged in any shooting sports that may utilize an AR-10, and who also lives on campus, could be a legitimate, sane, normal reason for one to be on campus. Just as two possible examples. Now, in terms of walking around open carrying one on campus? Yeah, I'd say generally there'd be two reasons for that; either someone who's planning to use it, or a Gun Justice Warrior (a fitting name, as they use the same style of tactics and mindset as the SJWs) trying to draw attention or make a scene or feed their victim mentality or pretend their making some grand point by doing it as a form of protest.
 
Lursa said:
Well one thing is that state laws affect what campuses can and cant do.

State laws vary regarding open carry and concealed carry.

The ages differ and types of firearms and magazine capacities and it goes on and on.

So my general answer is no she shouldnt (as an adult over 18). But I cant provide more specifics.
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After she graduated and was not a student she could arm herself differently than she could as a student. Bottom line is Kent State is constraining the 2nd Amendment rights of its students.
 
OlNate said:
Meh...she was flipping everyone the bird. I think you're more worried about the response than she is, as based on how she went about it she got what she was after. Let's not make her out to be Mother Teresa, mmm-kay? hehe...
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You know...all anyone can ever do is offer you the opportunity to lose your sad little mind. You dont have to so eagerly jump at the chance.
 
OlNate said:
If I had exposed myself, you're right, it would not have been a pretty sight. :lol:

But as I thought I was pretty clear in my post, I was just playing...we are allowed to do that, aren't we Vance? Without being called an ass? Or am I talking to grumpy Vance today? :lol:
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I'm just factual Vance responding in kind to the climate. You feel the climate...right?
 
VanceMack said:
You know...all anyone can ever do is offer you the opportunity to lose your sad little mind. You dont have to so eagerly jump at the chance.
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Hehe...yet that's the trendy thing to do these days. And the more it happens, the more other people feel justified about losing their minds over their own ****.

Seriously, all partisan stuff aside, PM me if you have to, if you don't wanna be vulnerable for a sec in front of everyone else, but what do you honestly think it would take to calm folks down at this point? And you can't say "stop being a sucky baby asshat", because it's like that saying goes...no one has ever calmed down in the history of telling people to calm down... :)
 
VanceMack said:
I'm just factual Vance responding in kind to the climate. You feel the climate...right?
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Nah, you're grumpy Vance...but it's ok, I like grumpy Vance, I just have to tread differently around you when you're that guy....hehe...

Ya, man, of course re: the climate. Don't get so feisty you miss the friendly part of the friendly jabs, though. Ya ****in grump! ;)
 
Thoreau72 said:
If somebody had had one at University of Texas campus all those years ago, it might have saved a few lives.

If somebody had one at Virginia Tech a few years ago, it might have saved a few lives. Columbine too. Parkland too. Get a grip.

Without the cop with a pistol in Dixon IL yesterday returning fire, who knows what might have come next.
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And if we had fully militarized police forces doing 24/7 patrols in those areas it would've saved a few lives, too. So freaking what. It doesn't change the fact that she's a maladjusted weirdo for being so obsessed with her stupid gun that she makes a drawing of it on her graduation cap.
 
FFS people.

This one person made a political comment about Kent State not allowing students to carry concealed or any other firearm on their campus. This was HER political statement

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and it was made in counter to THESE recent political statements

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but to many of you, that makes her a 'gun nut'.

Nah...its just another excuse for you to vent your hatred. So...we dance.
 
VanceMack said:
FFS people.

This one person made a political comment about Kent State not allowing students to carry concealed or any other firearm on their campus. This was HER political statement

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and it was made in counter to THESE recent political statements

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but to many of you, that makes her a 'gun nut'.

Nah...its just another excuse for you to vent your hatred. So...we dance.
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Bringing an AR-10 on campus and drawing a little picture of it on your graduation cap in response to some photos on the internet definitely makes you a nutjob. She is so obsessed with her gun and the feeling of empowerment and identity that she gets from being a "gun activist" that she lacks elsewhere in her life that she made her graduation photos center around this non-issue. She's a weirdo. Just admit it.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Bringing an AR-10 on campus and drawing a little picture of it on your graduation cap in response to some photos on the internet definitely makes you a nutjob. She is so obsessed with her gun and the feeling of empowerment and identity that she gets from being a "gun activist" that she lacks elsewhere in her life that she made her graduation photos center around this non-issue. She's a weirdo. Just admit it.
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She made a political comment based on current events and it caused you to piss yourself.

Your continued response is ridiculous.
 
VanceMack said:
She made a political comment based on current events and it caused you to piss yourself.

Your continued response is ridiculous.
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I didn't piss myself, I just find it sad. She's the weirdo, it has nothing to do with me. Obsessing over a non-issue like this and going to the extreme is bizarre. She's merely a less crazy version of those two psychos that went into a police station with balaclavas and fully armed weapons to "exercise their gun rights". They made a "political comment" too.
 
jmotivator said:
Same as with her, assuming his message was in support of the Second Amendment.
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Oh really? You've talked to your black friends and they've confirmed this for you?
 
Khayembii Communique said:
I didn't piss myself, I just find it sad. She's the weirdo, it has nothing to do with me. Obsessing over a non-issue like this and going to the extreme is bizarre. She's merely a less crazy version of those two psychos that went into a police station with balaclavas and fully armed weapons to "exercise their gun rights". They made a "political comment" too.
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Horse****. You piss yourself over it and use it to launch into your ridiculous tirade about 'gun nuts'. It happens with such regularity that all I can figure is you enjoy the warm feeling you get so you have to do it so often.
 
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