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Trump: Report that Obama FBI spied on campaign could be 'bigger than Watergate'

iguanaman said:
No. The law specifies foreign GOVERNMENT help. There is nothing illegal about buying private opposition research from citizens of other countries. Can you even see why accepting help from a foreign Govt. in a campaign for President is corrupt and illegal? Perhaps this bit of quid pro quo might jog your memory.

Trump White House Made Secret Efforts to Remove Russia Sanctions
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And who says annonymous Russian sources were not annonymous Russian GOVERNMENT sources?
There have been a few stories over the past year or so about Russia seeking to mess with the election.
 
Re: Smoking Gun - Obama Did Spy On Trump

biff_poindexter said:
What criminal activity did Obama know was happening?

....and why hasn't Trump's DOJ made Obama pay for his dastardly deeds yet?
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The question was, can Obama be impeached? The answer is yes. Can Obama be charged with a crime? Again, yes.

As far as what criminal activity Obama took part in, well...that's what the investigation is for. But, to be sure, there is direct evidence to show he was involved.

In any case, if Obama is impeached or charged it won't be Trump doing it. It'll be Congress or our justice system.
 
Re: Smoking Gun - Obama Did Spy On Trump

Mycroft said:
The question was, can Obama be impeached?
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Now? No, he can't be impeached.

Mycroft said:
Can Obama be charged with a crime?
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Sure he can...we all can, you too -- would you like evidence to be presented against you, then litigated in a court of law before you are convicted tho?

Or do you feel innuendos and rumors from people committed to locking you up anyway to be evidence enough? I prefer the way the constitution does it myself, maybe I'm different that way.

Mycroft said:
As far as what criminal activity Obama took part in, well...that's what the investigation is for. But, to be sure, there is direct evidence to show he was involved.
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Well as long as that investigation doesn't take too long -- we all know if an investigation goes over a year -- it's a witch hunt.
 
Fenton said:
James Clapper from March 2017 denying any surveillance of Trumps campaign took place...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna729261

When did we find out that the FBI used a paid informant to investigate Trump campaign officials ?
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lol why do you keep posting stuff that goes entirely against your narrative? If the FBI was so intent on working for Clinton, why would the FBI both deny any investigation and any information related to collusion by the Trump campaign? You just keep posting evidence proving your conspiracy theory wrong.
 
Re: Smoking Gun - Obama Did Spy On Trump

biff_poindexter said:
Now? No, he can't be impeached.

Sure he can...we all can, you too -- would you like evidence to be presented against you, then litigated in a court of law before you are convicted tho?

Or do you feel innuendos and rumors from people committed to locking you up anyway to be evidence enough? I prefer the way the constitution does it myself, maybe I'm different that way.

Well as long as that investigation doesn't take too long -- we all know if an investigation goes over a year -- it's a witch hunt.
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Actually, Obama can be impeached.
 
MTAtech said:
A) I have no idea what you are talking about regarding WWIII. Sounds a bit unhinged.
B) What's so damning? It's "brazen" to expect a president to uphold the law? But if you mean aiding a hostile foreign power to win your election isn't enough? Ok, then try on obstruction of justice; violating election finance law; money laundering; bribery; violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution, etc.

The real question is, how much criminality will it take for your tribe to abandon Trump? Does someone have to die? Oh wait, he did that already.
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Pretty sad evaluation; get help!

Based on information to date, the UK had more to do with interfering with the US 2016 Presidential
election than Russia. The Obama team and the Clinton campaign spied on the Trump Administration
and used the entire government apparatus, including the CIA, FBI, the DOJ and others, to do so. It
appears, they also had help from the UK.

But, but, but, weaponizing the FBI by infiltrating a campaign for the benefit of another campaign happens all the time. Nothing to see here.
 
Athanasius68 said:
No. Investigating Russians. Investigating Americans requires levels of proof that it doesnt seem was attained.
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If you have a "secret code name" for a project, you can be damn
sure it was official. And if you have Obama running it, you
can be certain it was incredibly illegal and unconstitutional.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
lol why do you keep posting stuff that goes entirely against your narrative? If the FBI was so intent on working for Clinton, why would the FBI both deny any investigation and any information related to collusion by the Trump campaign? You just keep posting evidence proving your conspiracy theory wrong.
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Why would the Obama FBI and CIA try to cover their asses you mean ?

Because they used the pretense of Russian collusion to unmask and conduct covert surveillance on Hillary Clinton's political opponent and his campaign

Its a scale of corruption that makes Nixons dirty tricks campaign look like childs play

Have you read John Brennan's recent tweets ( threats ) ?? For doing nothing wrong he sure is defensive all of the sudden
 
Fenton said:
Why would the Obama FBI and CIA try to cover their asses you mean ?
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No, it's clear what I mean. If the "Obama FBI and CIA" were involved in a conspiracy against Trump, it makes no sense for them to not only sit on information related to Russian collusion (or whatever you'd like to call it) until after the election, but also actively conceal such investigations and results (as you've claimed with two sources).

Because they used the pretense of Russian collusion to unmask and conduct covert surveillance on Hillary Clinton's political opponent and his campaign
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But why would they conduct covert surveillance on Hillary Clinton's political opponent and his campaign (for Hillary Clinton, as you've stated previously), but not use that information to help her win? Again, we're back at this question that you never actually address.
 
slick said:
Pretty sad evaluation; get help!

Based on information to date, the UK had more to do with interfering with the US 2016 Presidential
election than Russia. The Obama team and the Clinton campaign spied on the Trump Administration
and used the entire government apparatus, including the CIA, FBI, the DOJ and others, to do so. It
appears, they also had help from the UK.

But, but, but, weaponizing the FBI by infiltrating a campaign for the benefit of another campaign happens all the time. Nothing to see here.
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If anyone needs help, it seems to be you.

You assert, without citation, that "the UK had more to do with interfering with the US 2016 Presidential election than Russia." According to who, you?

You further assert, "The Obama team and the Clinton campaign spied on the Trump Administration and used the entire government apparatus, including the CIA, FBI, the DOJ and others, to do so." The Clinton campaign did not spy on anyone. They had no investigators. "The Obama team," was the government in 2016 -- and that was the investigative branches of the government, which have the charge and responsibility to protect the country from malicious acts by foreign agents. That should be the end of the discussion.

At the time, intelligence services of our allies were reporting to our intelligence services that known Russian agents were repeatedly contacting members of the Trump campaign. You are suggesting that the FBI should have done nothing and looked the other way. Not only would that have been irresponsible, on many levels, but it would have been behavior that you and your cult would have never viewed as acceptable if it was any other candidate.

You appear to be loose with facts and heavy on accusing the investigators at the expense of giving the investigated a pass.

What is sad is that you condone the interference by Russia on the American election as long as the interference was to benefit your candidate. That position is not only unpatriotic but against every principle the nation stands for.
 
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slick said:
Pretty sad evaluation; get help!

Based on information to date, the UK had more to do with interfering with the US 2016 Presidential
election than Russia. The Obama team and the Clinton campaign spied on the Trump Administration
and used the entire government apparatus, including the CIA, FBI, the DOJ and others, to do so. It
appears, they also had help from the UK.

But, but, but, weaponizing the FBI by infiltrating a campaign for the benefit of another campaign happens all the time. Nothing to see here.
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Please provide a link to back up all of these claims you made. Links that prove the following:

1. the UK had more to do with interfering with the US 2016 Presidential election than Russia
2. the Obama team and the Clinton campaign spied on the Trump Administration

There is no Clinton campaign anymore, by the way. So how can they be spying on the Trump administration? Does Hillary have a device planted in the Oval Office? Or did Obama leave it there when he vacated the premises? And who is on the Obama team right now anyway? I heard he was a private citizen.
 
Re: Smoking Gun - Obama Did Spy On Trump

Sam_Troy said:
If Obama knew and allowed Brennan's collusion with foreign spies, the House Judiciary Committee must file Articles of Impeachment immediately.
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It's a tad bit late to impeach Obama, isn't it?
 
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