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Mueller told Trump's legal team he will not indict the president, Giuliani tells Fox News

Fenton said:
Mueller told Trump's legal team he will not indict the president, Giuliani tells Fox News

Mueller told Trump's legal team he will not indict the president, Giuliani tells Fox News | Fox News


President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, told Fox News on Wednesday that special counsel Robert Mueller has told the president's legal team he will follow Justice Department guidance and not seek an indictment against Trump.

Giuliani, himself a former federal prosecutor and mayor of New York City, also told Fox News that Mueller's investigators have not responded to five information requests from the president's team. That has forced Trump's legal team to push off making a decision about whether the president will sit for an interview with the special counsel -- a decision they had hoped to reach by Thursday.

The precedent that federal prosecutors cannot indict a sitting president is laid out in a 1999 Justice Department memo. Giuliani told Fox News that Mueller has no choice but to follow its guidance.

"This case is essentially over," Giuliani said. "They're just in denial."


:lamo Aww that's tough luck.
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Sure he did, LOL!
 
Floridafan said:
You sound like another fool who believes Rudy. He has not been the brightest crayon in the box for a while now.
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Oh, I believe Mueller told him this and it is right in line with the reasoning of legal experts.

Your efforts to malign Rudy is a fail. Facts are important.
 
Probably need to watch this one and see how it plays out. I highly doubt Fox News could have gotten Rudy on camera before the NYT and CNN knew about it.
 
Fenton said:
Mueller told Trump's legal team he will not indict the president, Giuliani tells Fox News

Mueller told Trump's legal team he will not indict the president, Giuliani tells Fox News | Fox News


President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, told Fox News on Wednesday that special counsel Robert Mueller has told the president's legal team he will follow Justice Department guidance and not seek an indictment against Trump.

Giuliani, himself a former federal prosecutor and mayor of New York City, also told Fox News that Mueller's investigators have not responded to five information requests from the president's team. That has forced Trump's legal team to push off making a decision about whether the president will sit for an interview with the special counsel -- a decision they had hoped to reach by Thursday.

The precedent that federal prosecutors cannot indict a sitting president is laid out in a 1999 Justice Department memo. Giuliani told Fox News that Mueller has no choice but to follow its guidance.

"This case is essentially over," Giuliani said. "They're just in denial."


:lamo Aww that's tough luck.
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I'll believe it when it is actually over. I hope soon.
 
Deuce said:
Firing Comey to impede the investigation
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He didn't fire Comey to impede the investigation. In fact, the House investigated anyway. Mueller has been investigating.

Sorry.
 
Mycroft said:
And he'll STILL be President.

Chaps your ass, don't it?
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Not really. Bothers me more that people fell for him in the first place, though the Dems treating Hilldog as inevitable was nearly as bad.

Trump didn't need to run for President to be a garbage human being. We've been on notice about this guy for decades.
 
Lutherf said:
FWIW, there was never much talk of indicting Trump beyond that which came from talking heads on CNN/MSNBC and various political discussion forums. The objective has, pretty much from the start, been to find cause to impeach Trump. To that end, there should be little doubt that, should the Senate go Democrat this year, we will see that process begin. Whether the cause if "he spit on the sidewalk" or "he's been confirmed as a Russian spy" is immaterial. The Democrats, along with their Republican allies in the NeverTrump movement, will not stop in their quest to cleanse the White House of an uninvited guest from the unwashed class rather than the enlightened Political class.
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Constitutionally Mueller can't indict the president. But like you stated, he can come up with something to hand the Democrats to start impeachment hearings if the Democrats gain the House. But like I stated in another thread, I don't see a blue wave occurring. And I would bet money that Republicans will gain seats in the Senate.

No matter how much establishment Republicans, Never Trumpers, hate Trump, they despise Pelosi more.
 
Mycroft said:
1. Mueller has a grand jury. If he could indict...he would and could. He can't indict. Sorry.

2. The Senate can do whatever they want, but they can't indict, either. Sorry.

3. Nobody has any evidence...that we know of...that Trump had anything to do with Russians regarding the election. shrug...

4. Trump hasn't tried to obstruct any investigation...not at all. In fact, he's been quite cooperative. Sorry.
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Trump has cooperated with the witch hunt, you say? :lamo
 
I foresee a massive run on pink woolly hats ...


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WillyPete said:
Not really. Bothers me more that people fell for him in the first place, though the Dems treating Hilldog as inevitable was nearly as bad.

Trump didn't need to run for President to be a garbage human being. We've been on notice about this guy for decades.
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Yes...you can console yourself by talking how nasty Trump is...while he's still President.

Sorry.
 
If it's largely established that a special counsel cannot indict a president, and would simply make recommendations to the AG, who can then bring it to Congress or just summarize it to congress....
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Then why is this news? And why are Fletch, Barnacle, etc., saying stupid things like Mueller's team didn't understand this was likely, or that Giuliani is right claiming the investigation is largely a dud. Taking a victory lap about an ongoing investigation? lol.

Need you be reminded this is a counter-intelligence investigation that is investigating Russia's successful information attack on the United states in an effort to keep Hillary from being elected, and to get Trump elected. That it's tied in 100 ways to Trump, but he cannot be indicted, says nothing about what he did, and how he covered it up, and if he obstructed justice, if he broke other laws, and if his team was violating the law, etc., etc., etc.

Fox news + Giuliani = get your head out of your buttocks.
 
Mycroft said:
Yes...you can console yourself by talking how nasty Trump is...while he's still President.

Sorry.
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Nothing to apologize for.

I think if you check, you'll see I've moderated myself better than many, considering how much I dislike the guy.

I'll agree that the reactionary folks that don't like Trump have been counterproductive to the cause, overall.

We don't need hysteria to know Trump's history, and that (to my eyes) tells us everything we do need to know.

His disgusting business dealings in AC alone should have disqualified him.
 
Fenton said:
Mueller told Trump's legal team he will not indict the president, Giuliani tells Fox News

Mueller told Trump's legal team he will not indict the president, Giuliani tells Fox News | Fox News


President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, told Fox News on Wednesday that special counsel Robert Mueller has told the president's legal team he will follow Justice Department guidance and not seek an indictment against Trump.

Giuliani, himself a former federal prosecutor and mayor of New York City, also told Fox News that Mueller's investigators have not responded to five information requests from the president's team. That has forced Trump's legal team to push off making a decision about whether the president will sit for an interview with the special counsel -- a decision they had hoped to reach by Thursday.

The precedent that federal prosecutors cannot indict a sitting president is laid out in a 1999 Justice Department memo. Giuliani told Fox News that Mueller has no choice but to follow its guidance.

"This case is essentially over," Giuliani said. "They're just in denial."


:lamo Aww that's tough luck.
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So this was according to Giuliani. Not saying Mueller has any intention of seeking an indictment against Trump (he almost certainly won't), but it's doubtful that conversation happened.
 
Barnacle said:
A bit stupid because it infers that someone like Mueller didn't know the law before he started that s***.
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Mark Levin has been stating this for some time... using Justice Dept guidelines... and the Media just did not want to hear it.

There are going to be some mightily pissed off and disappointed Leftists tonight. Their hot-air balloon crash landed.

Meanwhile back at the ranch...
 
Cardinal said:
So this was according to Giuliani. Not saying Mueller has any intention of seeking an indictment against Trump (he almost certainly won't), but it's doubtful that conversation happened.
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It’s Justice Dept guidelines... back to Nixon and Clinton.

Of course, the law has never been a strong point for Leftists.

Here... I posted this a while back:
https://www.debatepolitics.com/redi...ube.com/watch?v=uO2d5bB1BRw&time_continue=455

Mark Levin has been stating the law on this for a year... finally it’s come out to educate the public. Illustrating, the Leftist media has once again been highly negligent... by failing to inform its followers about basic facts.

There is anger in Leftistville tonight.

If there is a silver lining... it’s been the Left wasting a year, and painting themselves in a corner with this and raising taxes.

Good luck in November... ROTFLOL...
 
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Barnacle said:
Comey told him 3 times he's not under investigation. So, what's your problem?!?
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Do you recall that Trump specifically told the Russian ambassador that he fired Comey to end the Russian investigation?
 
Fenton said:
Mueller told Trump's legal team he will not indict the president, Giuliani tells Fox News

Mueller told Trump's legal team he will not indict the president, Giuliani tells Fox News | Fox News


President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, told Fox News on Wednesday that special counsel Robert Mueller has told the president's legal team he will follow Justice Department guidance and not seek an indictment against Trump.

Giuliani, himself a former federal prosecutor and mayor of New York City, also told Fox News that Mueller's investigators have not responded to five information requests from the president's team. That has forced Trump's legal team to push off making a decision about whether the president will sit for an interview with the special counsel -- a decision they had hoped to reach by Thursday.

The precedent that federal prosecutors cannot indict a sitting president is laid out in a 1999 Justice Department memo. Giuliani told Fox News that Mueller has no choice but to follow its guidance.

"This case is essentially over," Giuliani said. "They're just in denial."


:lamo Aww that's tough luck.
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You forget that there are plenty of other people to indict besides the President. Don Jr. and Jared come to mind as well as the obvious like Cohen. And before you say it, if Trump pardons them he will be guilty of abuse of power another impeachable offense. that the Democratic controlled House will find very interesting.
 
Mach said:
If it's largely established that a special counsel cannot indict a president, and would simply make recommendations to the AG, who can then bring it to Congress or just summarize it to congress....
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Then why is this news? And why are Fletch, Barnacle, etc., saying stupid things like Mueller's team didn't understand this was likely, or that Giuliani is right claiming the investigation is largely a dud. Taking a victory lap about an ongoing investigation? lol.

Need you be reminded this is a counter-intelligence investigation that is investigating Russia's successful information attack on the United states in an effort to keep Hillary from being elected, and to get Trump elected. That it's tied in 100 ways to Trump, but he cannot be indicted, says nothing about what he did, and how he covered it up, and if he obstructed justice, if he broke other laws, and if his team was violating the law, etc., etc., etc.

Fox news + Giuliani = get your head out of your buttocks.
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Maybe CNN and whomever was speaking on behalf of the special counsel ought to get their heads out of their arses.

From the CNN article.

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"The inability to indict a sitting president has been the position of the Office of Legal Counsel in the Justice Department since the Nixon administration and reaffirmed in the Clinton administration, but it has never been tested in court."

For the love of G-d, what about the Constitution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is only one way to remove a sitting president. ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it is provided in the Constitution. It is called impeachment.

You never read one word in that rag of an article about the Constitution and its provisions. Nada.
 
vesper said:
Maybe CNN and whomever was speaking on behalf of the special counsel ought to get their heads out of their arses.

From the CNN article.

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"The inability to indict a sitting president has been the position of the Office of Legal Counsel in the Justice Department since the Nixon administration and reaffirmed in the Clinton administration, but it has never been tested in court."

For the love of G-d, what about the Constitution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is only one way to remove a sitting president. ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it is provided in the Constitution. It is called impeachment.

You never read one word in that rag of an article about the Constitution and its provisions. Nada.
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Not indicting a sitting President is a tradition. It's not specifically spelled out in the Constitution that you cannot do so. Indicting a sitting President remains to to this day an untested theory.
 
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