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Republican candidate announces 'deportation bus tour' for undocumented immigrants

It feels as though we are going backwards.

Only if you're an illegal alien. Trump ran on this and even today enjoys overwhelming support for cleaning up the illegal problem. Your side simply didn't get it, and apparently continues to NOT get it.

Tim-
 
It's apublicity stunt to raise awareness of the problem of sanctuary cities providing ILLEGAL immigrants a safe place to run to - especially the violent criminal element.

You're saying 'publicity stunt' as if this is completely harmless and it's definitely not harmless. There are far better ways to make a point about immigration then to openly stigmatize immigrants as being nothing more than "murderers, rapists, kidnappers, child molesters and other criminals". That's just blatant bigotry which doesn't do anything to advance the understanding of the issue.
 
Only if you're an illegal alien. Trump ran on this and even today enjoys overwhelming support for cleaning up the illegal problem. Your side simply didn't get it, and apparently continues to NOT get it.

Tim-

It's people like you who don't get the principles this country was founded upon.
 
It feels as though we are going backwards.

We are, but we'll figure it out.

Only if you're an illegal alien. Trump ran on this and even today enjoys overwhelming support for cleaning up the illegal problem. Your side simply didn't get it, and apparently continues to NOT get it.

Tim-

Color me underwhelmed:

Support for Trump’s immigration stance slips among supporters: Reuters/Ipsos poll

** 41 percent said in March they approve of Trump’s immigration policies, down from 48 percent in February 2017.

** 21 percent said they “strongly approve” of Trump’s handling of U.S. immigration, down from 27 percent in February 2017.

** 38 percent said they “strongly disapproved,” up from 31 percent in February 2017.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...g-supporters-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1HC2OD
 
You're saying 'publicity stunt' as if this is completely harmless and it's definitely not harmless. There are far better ways to make a point about immigration then to openly stigmatize immigrants as being nothing more than "murderers, rapists, kidnappers, child molesters and other criminals". That's just blatant bigotry which doesn't do anything to advance the understanding of the issue.

The truth never matters to the right. Only smear campaigns.
 

I guess if you ask the wrong questions, like characterizing Trumps actual immigration policy, then the numbers ought to reflect in kind, however if one actually takes the time to present the policy in truthful terms, the answers tend to support Trump OVERWHELMINGLY!!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles...port-president-trumps-immigration-priorities/

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Voters Support President Trump’s Approach to DACA
•63% of voters favor “a congressional deal that gives undocumented immigrants brought here by their parents work permits and a path to citizenship in exchange for increasing merit preference over preference for relatives, eliminating the diversity visa lottery, and funding barrier security on the U.S.-Mexico border.” This includes 61% of Hispanics, 55% of African American voters, and 63% of Democrats.
•A majority (53%) of voters think Democrats in Congress are not out “to find a legislative solution for DACA recipients” and are instead “holding it out as an issue for the midterm elections.” This includes 61 percent of Independents, as well as nearly 1 in 5 Democratic voters who think Democratic lawmakers do not want “to find a solution for DACA,” but instead want to use them as an issue in the midterm elections.

Trumped.. ;)

Tim-
 
Such as? Can you be specific?

Tim-

So you have not slightest idea what they would be? See? Told you that you wouldn't get it.
 
I guess if you ask the wrong questions, like characterizing Trumps actual immigration policy, then the numbers ought to reflect in kind, however if one actually takes the time to present the policy in truthful terms, the answers tend to support Trump OVERWHELMINGLY!!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles...port-president-trumps-immigration-priorities/

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Trumped.. ;)

Tim-

That's from February. You might want to read the article I posted for you. It's much newer.
 
That's from February. You might want to read the article I posted for you. It's much newer.

I did read it, but it doesn't matter. Support from Trump supporters is essentially unmoved and THAT is what matters afterall. :)

Tim-
 
I did read it, but it doesn't matter. Support from Trump supporters is essentially unmoved and THAT is what matters afterall. :)

Tim-

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Uh huh, that's all that matters...:D

Please, please keep believing that...
 
It feels as though we are going backwards.

This show is not that far off what a lot of the right wing religious nuts would do if they could

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You're new to this whole debate thing aren't ya? ;)


Tim-

You new to this country? If so better hope that your local GOP representative doesn't find out. How is it that so many of you conservatives have suddenly forgotten everything you learned in your American history and civics classes and turned into Donald Trump? Come on, take a wild guess as what American principles could be at issue here.
 
The "Bus tour" is a nod to a time when Americans wouldn't put up with contraband labor and illegal immigration - an era long forgotten where bus, train, and ships "toured" half of the US illegals back deep into Mexico.

The Christian Science Monitor provided a history lesson of the wise action sometime ago, Operation Wetback: https://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

1. When Dwight Eisenhower became president the southern border was as porous as a colander sieve. Up to three million illegal aliens walked and waded north, and Eisenhower promised to end the unethical officialdom's corrupt "special treatment" of overlooking the illegal mass migration on behalf of "farmer-exploiters" of illegal labor... having climbed to a 1,000,000 cases per year.

2. At the time, there was an estimated illegal labor force of up to 3 million (in addition to the bracero program legal labor). Low-cost, docile, non- unionized workers, the farmers and ranchers became dependent on the cheap labor, paying approximately half of the farm wages they paid to legals elsewhere (per a study of the President's commission).

3. Senior US officials were friends with many ranchers, and agents "did not dare" arrest their illegal workers under threat of political intervention.

4. But for nearly ten years, the good old boy system was changed. In 1954, Ike appointed retired Gen. Joseph "Jumpin' Joe" Swing, a former West Point classmate and veteran of the 101st Airborne, as the new INS commissioner. One of Swing's first decisive acts was to transfer certain entrenched immigration officials out of the border area to other regions of the country where their political connections would have no effect.

5. On June 17, 1954, "Operation Wetback" began. In California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a caravan of busses, with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.

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The Mexicans caught in the roundup were shipped in buses and trains deep within Mexico before being set free. Tens of thousands more were put aboard two hired ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried the aliens from Port Isabel, Texas, to Vera Cruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles south to Vera Cruz. The total deported and coerced into leaving is estimated to be as much as 1.5 million.

7. General Swing's fast-moving campaign soon secured America's borders – an accomplishment no other president has since equaled. Illegal migration dropped 95 percent to the late 1950s. And they did it with a mere 750 border agents.

In the mid-20th century it was a no brainer and a model for today: move state to state and round em up, ship em out. Load the herds in boarded up old train cars with guards, buses with jail barred windows, and old ships under destroyer escort. And should any try to escape, then use (potentially lethal) force.
 
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Deportation Bus Tour...
If it's free they should hop on board.
 
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