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Republican candidate announces 'deportation bus tour' for undocumented immigrants

Lefties will never distinguish the difference between "legal" and "illegal". They use the word "immigration" as a battering ram to show their virtue.
 
apdst said:
Deport illegal aliens? Sure. What's wrong with that?
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Good thing for you these kind of people weren't around when your ancestors came here or you may have wound up in some ****-hole country somewhere instead of here.
 
Rogue Valley said:
It is what they already are. Hateful hypocrites.

Williams is a Welch name. In the 1700's, Welch Quakers were the first mass immigrants from Wales to the US, fleeing religious persecution.

Mr. Williams conveniently forgets his own ancestral travels and travails.
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And that is relevant how? How about...not at all?
 
Hicup said:
Only if you're an illegal alien. Trump ran on this and even today enjoys overwhelming support for cleaning up the illegal problem. Your side simply didn't get it, and apparently continues to NOT get it.

Tim-
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Hell, OBAMA ran on his record of deporting illegal immigrants. Hillary ran on her support for walls and barriers to illegal immigration. Illegal immigration and deportation of illegal immigrants and the importance of following the laws was a staple of Bill Clintons SOTU addresses.

But...TRRRRRRUUUUUMMMMPPPP!!!!!

Thats racist.
 
Atomic Kid said:
Good thing for you these kind of people weren't around when your ancestors came here or you may have wound up in some ****-hole country somewhere instead of here.
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My ancestors didn't violate immigration laws when they came here. Half of my ancestors were here when the Europeans showed up.
 
maxparrish said:
There was a time when Americans wouldn't put up with contraband labor and illegal immigration - an era long forgotten.

The Christian Science Monitor provided a history lesson of smart action sometime ago, Operation Wetback: https://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

1. When Dwight Eisenhower became president the southern border was as porous as a colander sieve. Up to three million illegal aliens walked and waded north, and Eisenhower promised to end the unethical officialdom's corrupt "special treatment" of overlooking the illegal mass migration on behalf of "farmer-exploiters" of illegal labor... having climbed to a 1,000,000 cases per year.

2. At the time, there was an estimated illegal labor force of up to 3 million (in addition to the bracero program legal labor). Low-cost, docile, non- unionized workers, the farmers and ranchers became dependent on the cheap labor, paying approximately half of the farm wages they paid to legals elsewhere (per a study of the President's commission).

3. Senior US officials were friends with many ranchers, and agents "did not dare" arrest their illegal workers under threat of political intervention.

4. But for nearly ten years, the good old boy system was changed. In 1954, Ike appointed retired Gen. Joseph "Jumpin' Joe" Swing, a former West Point classmate and veteran of the 101st Airborne, as the new INS commissioner. One of Swing's first decisive acts was to transfer certain entrenched immigration officials out of the border area to other regions of the country where their political connections would have no effect.

5. On June 17, 1954, "Operation Wetback" began. In California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a caravan of busses, with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.

6. The Mexicans caught in the roundup were shipped in buses and trains deep within Mexico before being set free. Tens of thousands more were put aboard two hired ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried the aliens from Port Isabel, Texas, to Vera Cruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles south to Vera Cruz. The total deported and coerced into leaving is estimated to be as much as 1.5 million.

7. General Swing's fast-moving campaign soon secured America's borders – an accomplishment no other president has since equaled. Illegal migration dropped 95 percent to the late 1950s. And they did it with a mere 750 border agents.

In the mid-20th century it was a no brainer and a model for today: move state to state and round em up, ship em out. Load the herds in boarded up old train cars with guards, buses with cell bar windows, and old ships under destroyer escort. And should any try to escape, then use (potentially lethal) force.
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When WWII was on and there was a shortage of laborers the US was all too happy and thankful to have these people around. But in the post war with the GIs all home and peace and prosperity began to come around all of sudden they weren't needed anymore and all the work and service they had previously given to this country no longer counted for anything. Yeah that is something to be really proud of alright.
 
apdst said:
My ancestors didn't violate immigration laws when they came here. Half of my ancestors were here when the Europeans showed up.
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How do you know? Do you know what the laws were then or if there even were any? How you would like to have your ancestors to be called murderers, rapists, kidnappers, child molesters and etc.?
 
Sp apdst, you never answered my Q about Bagdad, La.
 
When I rolled through there many moons ago, I recall there were just a handful of homes.
 
Still the same?
 
Bagdad was just down the road a spell from Fort Polk.
 
No slam. I liked the area. Rural and homey.
 
Hicup said:
Only if you're an illegal alien. Trump ran on this and even today enjoys overwhelming support for cleaning up the illegal problem. Your side simply didn't get it, and apparently continues to NOT get it.

Tim-
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I'm just chuckling waiting for the day all the illegals are gone and everybody's economic situation gets worse instead of better.

Which it will. Food prices are going to go up with any solution. Hotels will.charge extra for room cleaning like they do for parking.

I'm really just curious who they're gonna blame then.

They've had such a great scapegoat up until now.
 
VanceMack said:
Hell, OBAMA ran on his record of deporting illegal immigrants. Hillary ran on her support for walls and barriers to illegal immigration. Illegal immigration and deportation of illegal immigrants and the importance of following the laws was a staple of Bill Clintons SOTU addresses.

But...TRRRRRRUUUUUMMMMPPPP!!!!!

Thats racist.
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Yup; here is a small collection of elected dems lamenting about illegals. (Somewhere between Bill and Obama the term illegal aliens became illegal immigrants ... ha ha ha.)

https://gop.com/flashback-democrats-talked-tough-on-immigration-rsr/
 
What if...? said:
I'm just chuckling waiting for the day all the illegals are gone and everybody's economic situation gets worse instead of better.

Which it will. Food prices are going to go up with any solution. Hotels will.charge extra for room cleaning like they do for parking.

I'm really just curious who they're gonna blame then.

They've had such a great scapegoat up until now.
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Dang ... as much as I disliked Obama and Co., I never hoped for an economic failure of this country. It would mean hurting my family.

But it's obvious from your comment: the left is beyond logical thinking.
 
Atomic Kid said:
When WWII was on and there was a shortage of laborers the US was all too happy and thankful to have these people around. But in the post war with the GIs all home and peace and prosperity began to come around all of sudden they weren't needed anymore and all the work and service they had previously given to this country no longer counted for anything. Yeah that is something to be really proud of alright.
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Their paycheck was the gratitude, and them doing the job they were paid to do was "gratitude" in return. The country did not force them to come to America, they came because the wage opportunity was greater than in their home country. The only ones owed "gratitude" are the many farm boys and laborers who gave up better paying jobs and safety (some conscripted) to fight their countries war.

They didn't do so to find replacement workers to have taken their rural jobs, especially illegal foreign migrants.
 
Atomic Kid said:
You're saying 'publicity stunt' as if this is completely harmless and it's definitely not harmless. There are far better ways to make a point about immigration then to openly stigmatize immigrants as being nothing more than "murderers, rapists, kidnappers, child molesters and other criminals". That's just blatant bigotry which doesn't do anything to advance the understanding of the issue.
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Supposedly when Romney was running, in 2012, Trump advised him to appeal to the rabble, Romney did not, and we have seen how Trumps tactics worked in16, but one must include HRC's screw ups.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
This show is not that far off what a lot of the right wing religious nuts would do if they could

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That's what makes that show so great. Between this and the accidental documentary movie Idiocracy... it's the reality that hits home.
 
Rogue Valley said:
How about Mr. Williams - and you - remember that we are all immigrants to this country.
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First, we are not all immigrants to this country. I was born in Portland, Oregon 67 years ago (and my late parents were also born here, as were two or three of my grandparents.)

Second, you have still not explained why we need to remember our biological origins as migrating peoples. No one controls where they are born or where their ancestors migrated before their birth. If being a winner in the lottery of life is being born in the US, I don't see that it obligates any native-born to invite everyone else in the world to be an American citizen and a resident, certainly not if it detracts my life or the life of my children.

So until you explain why remembering a biological irrelevancy is important, I will have to write it off as mush headed sentimentalism.
 
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maxparrish said:
First, we are not all immigrants to this country.
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Somewhere down the line, we are all immigrants to America.

You just feel like you've always been here now that your family has a few generations under its Americana belt.

A false sense of superiority.
 
maxparrish said:
Their paycheck was the gratitude, and them doing the job they were paid to do was "gratitude" in return. The country did not force them to come to America, they came because the wage opportunity was greater than in their home country. The only ones owed "gratitude" are the many farm boys and laborers who gave up better paying jobs and safety (some conscripted) to fight their countries war.

They didn't do so to find replacement workers to have taken their rural jobs, especially illegal foreign migrants.
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So they should be grateful just to get a paycheck and we shouldn't be grateful that they decided help us in a time of need. Because if you recall that wasn't the case in the first World War. But you are a Libertarian so you probably believe that roads and bridges build themselves, or that water is safe to drink by default too.
 
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