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Pedestrian said:
Look, it's not even close. When it comes to party, power and corruption, the dems are no angels but the repubs are in a league of their own.
Maybe in the entire world. Hell hath no furry like any repub out of office. Talk about a sense of entitlement.

Hillary lost because 7 of the 9 million African Americans who voted for Obama in '08 and '12...didn't vote in '16.
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Eh?

Black voter turnout was down 10 percent from 2012. Not 60-70%. It's 6 points lower than caucasian Americans.
 
Casca XV said:
It was President Harry Truman who said " If you enter politics poor and leave rich you are stealing." Without taxpayer funded public office the Clintons and the Obama's would be flying bargain rate coach not in private jets.

The Presidents father died when The President himself was in his 50s. By then he was worth a dozen times more than his father ever dreamed.

The President is separated from his businesses. If anything like what you and this thread are suggesting were true, Mueller would be telling us about it.

The Swamp is not finding any actual dirt on President Trump because he comes from a non-political background where people are held to account for their actions. Even before politics he was probably the most scrutinized person in history.
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Wow your delusions on the president are noted....:2rofll:
 
Mustachio said:
Yeah but on the other end, the Teapot Dome Scandal. I'm kidding. The point is that politics changed dramatically in the last 20 some years. And Ted Kennedy is hardly called a hero by... anybody? Did you mean John F Kennedy? Ted and John are spelled differently.
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No. Ted was a saint compared to JFK.
 
markjs said:
Wow your delusions on the president are noted....:2rofll:
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Dirt ? Trump is and has been covered in dirt most of his adult life. Just ask his contractors and lenders.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
No. Ted was a saint compared to JFK.
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Ted Kennedy was one of the most if not the most successful senators in US history. One might feel as if JFK had 'Trump' disease.

They both thrived on sexual conquest. However, compared to others, was more competent, effective pragmatic and honest than most.
 
Pedestrian said:
Ted Kennedy was one of the most if not the most successful senators in US history. One might feel as if JFK had 'Trump' disease.

They both thrived on sexual conquest. However, compared to others, was more competent, effective pragmatic and honest than most.
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A senator who thought it was OK to not report the killing of a person because he needed to sober up.
 
Pedestrian said:
Your source differs from my source...it happens.
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What's your source? I'm providing two for you, and I'm not looking for one that backs up my claim. Here's the second: Minority turnout down about 7%
And Trump got 85% of their vote. Very similar to the numbers in Bush vs. Kerry.

But your secret source that is obviously not true says differently. I can't really argue with made up numbers.
 
Mustachio said:
Not politically. Ted was a saint compared to Trump if you want to play that game.
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Who did Trump kill and not notify the authorities so he could sober up.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Who did Trump kill and not notify the authorities so he could sober up.
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That brings up a good point. See, what I don't like about the Trumps and Kennedys of the world is that they get away easy on everything. Trump has ruined many lives. How many people have gone bankrupt because of his actions? Kennedy did receive a prison sentence due to the manslaughter incident, although it was far too short. Trump probably hasn't directly killed anybody, but he has:
- maintained ties, directly and with a middle man, to the mafia since the 70s
- caused countless people to go bankrupt in what are essentially "the producer" schemes
- discriminated against black Americans in the 70s (housing) and in Vegas
- sued every person who ever did anything that upset him, using the old tactic where you drag litigation on so long that you destroy the other individual, causing more bankruptcies
- been accused of sexual assault and marital rape, but of course he's never had to face the music because he uses his lawyers to crush the charges
- used incredibly unethical and possibly illegal tactics to keep his casinos afloat
- violated antitrust laws
- sells his name to condominiums that are second rate to trick people into buying them. That's disgusting and should definitely be illegal.
- refused to pay workers he had a contract with, which is illegal
- The Trump Organization's antics, the undocumented immigrants he did business with, Trump University, should I go on?

Trump might have killed somebody. I wouldn't put it past him, but I'd say it's about 40/60 and Trump would never directly kill somebody, although I think he certainly would be willing to pay to have it done. So no, he didn't commit manslaughter while intoxicated, but he violates every rules, sues every person, and destroys the life of anybody who bothers him. Ted and Trump were/are scumbags who get away with whatever they want because they have power and money. You could say they are "the elites." Right?
 
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