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Melania Trump undergoes kidney surgery at Walter Reed medical center

biglawnmower said:
however you want to justify your hatred is between you and yourself.

you bring up porn while the first lady is undergoing a serious medical procedure.

lol and i bet you claim to be tolerant
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I find that poster to be more tolerant than all the assholes who run around calling Stormy Daniels a slut, a whore, etc. with specific reference to her profession.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
I find that poster to be more tolerant than all the assholes who run around calling Stormy Daniels a slut, a whore, etc. with specific reference to her profession.
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Derailing your own thread with personal attacks, are ya now?
 
biff_poindexter said:
In other words, she has more class than that black woman who was in the white House
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I've asked him twice to explain himself, but that is the implication. Either that or he just finds her lacking class because he doesn't like her husband. If that's the case, what a pathetic presence to make in a thread where posters of every political persuasion are wishing Mrs. Trump well.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
I've posted that twice already. The specific condition was an embolus of some kind, e.g., blood clot, fatty deposit, air bubble, etc., that needed to be removed because it posed a risk of embolism.

I do wonder how they knew about it though. I would imagine that's a hard thing to find unless she felt pain.
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Yes, I notice that you have remarked that she had an embolus (obstruction) of some sort removed.

The thing is that claim doesn't align with anything I've read about the purpose for one's having a renal embolization procedure. Did you read the content at any of the links I provided? Moreover, the CNN article in your OP doesn't indicate anything to that effect and you've provided no reference link or news link asserting that she had an obstruction removed.

Judging from what I've read (and linked to in post 27, an embolization procedure is, in and of itself, relatively low risk and done using local or "sedation" anesthesia rather than general anesthesia. In contrast. several of the conditions (none of them being the removal of an arterial or venous obstruction) that militate for performing an embolization are quite serious. Indeed, everything I've read indicates the procedure is done to "starve" a tumor, be it benign or not.

Indeed:
  • Renal angiography and embolization indications currently include the treatment of angiomyolipoma (AML), pre-operative tumor and/or tumor thrombus embolization, the control of post-operative renal hemorrhage, pre-transplant embolization of native kidneys or failed allographs, patients with end-stage renal disease and uncontrolled hypertension, and the treatment of arterio-venous malformations/fistulas. (Source)
 
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trixare4kids said:
Derailing your own thread with personal attacks, are ya now?
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That wasn't a personal attack. If someone in this thread runs around calling Daniels a slut and a whore, then her guilty conscience is her own problem. I didn't refer to anyone in particular. You're somehow getting worse at debating every day.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
That wasn't a personal attack. If someone in this thread runs around calling Daniels a slut and a whore, then her guilty conscience is her own problem. I didn't refer to anyone in particular. You're somehow getting worse at debating every day.
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You tell yourself whatever you want to hear. You're derailing your own thread with the usual vitriolic word salad.
 
Xelor said:
Yes, I notice that you have remarked that she had an embolus (obstruction) of some sort removed.

The thing is that claim doesn't align with anything I've read about the purpose for one's having a renal embolization procedure. Did you read the content at any of the links I provided? Moreover, the CNN article in your OP doesn't indicate anything to that effect and you've provided no reference link or news link asserting that she had an obstruction removed.

Judging from what I've read (and linked to in post 27, an embolization procedure is, in and of itself, relatively low risk and done using local or "sedation" anesthesia rather than general anesthesia. In contrast. several of the conditions (none of them being the removal of an arterial or venous obstruction) that militate for performing an embolization are quite serious. Indeed, everything I've read indicates the procedure is done to "starve" a tumor, be it benign or not.

Indeed:
  • Renal angiography and embolization indications currently include the treatment of angiomyolipoma (AML), pre-operative tumor and/or tumor thrombus embolization, the control of post-operative renal hemorrhage, pre-transplant embolization of native kidneys or failed allographs, patients with end-stage renal disease and uncontrolled hypertension, and the treatment of arterio-venous malformations/fistulas. (Source)
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Where did you get the idea that this has anything to do with a tumor? Perhaps I missed something. The only information I can still find after reviewing four updated sources is that she had an embolization.
 
trixare4kids said:
You tell yourself whatever you want to hear. You're derailing your own thread with the usual vitriolic word salad.
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I'm not sure why this is still a lost concept on you, but I don't care about anything you post. Ever.
 
JANFU said:
I made this post and it was uncalled for. I offer my apologies.
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If you hadn't brought this to my attention, I would have never seen the post.
I don't read every post in most threads, but you're forgiven.
For some reason, I trigger some unnecessarily.
However, I don' plan to stop calling :bs when I see it. Occasionally, I get that wrong and apologize.
Anyway, apologizing for being wrong is a mark of good character. The ability to admit one's mistakes is lacking in this forum.
But good on you, JANFU for taking back a nasty comment.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
Where did you get the idea that this has anything to do with a tumor? Perhaps I missed something. The only information I can still find after reviewing four updated sources is that she had an embolization.
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You most certainly did "miss something." Everything found at each of the medical reference links I have provided in this thread.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
I'm not sure why this is still a lost concept on you, but I don't care about anything you post. Ever.
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Oh that last part of your comment really made me laugh...:lamo
 
To the thread topic best wishes and a speedy recovery. I hope it's truly nothing serious


To the side topic. Michelle had class. I rarely viewed an issue the same way as her and issues with some of what she said or did. But the woman did have class.
 
Xelor said:
I just heard an update. They say she underwent an embolization to treat a "benign kidney condition."

Renal artery embolization is a procedure primarily performed by interventional radiologists that can be utilized for treatment of renal tumors, both malignant and benign. It has many applications, including pretreatment of renal cell carcinomas prior to planned resection to decrease hemorrhagic complications intraoperatively, treatment of malignant renal tumor in patients who are not deemed suitable surgical candidates, as well as treatment of benign renal tumors and their potential hemorrhagic complications. There are many different techniques. (Source)

Renal artery embolization (RAE) is an effective minimally invasive alternative procedure for the treatment of a variety of conditions. (Source)​

I'm still sitting here wondering:
  • Why, if the condition is so benign, why not tell us what the specific condition is that militated for the procedure?
  • RAE is typically an outpatient procedure, particularly with healthy people, yet Mrs. Trump will be hospitalized for a whole week. [Maybe she just wants to be away from Donald? Certainly, unlike "average" Americans, she can afford to pay for that. LOL. (I don't actually think she'd opt to be in hospital for that reason...The Trumps have plenty of homes she can visit to achieve that end.)]

There is also a genre of renal embolization called "chemoembolization."


At the end of the day, I feel as though if one, she, wants to keep private the details, fine. Just say something simple and direct like, "The First Lady will be in the hospital. To preserve the First Lady's right to privacy and because she's not a public official, no further details will be disclosed. The First Lady would like to thank everyone for their thoughts and prayers for her speedy recovery." Mature people can understand and handle that, many perhaps can even relate to it. On the other hand, if one is going to disclose, then whatever one discloses needs to be complete and accurate.
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Maybe it was her request to keep it quiet. Why so upset?
 
biglawnmower said:
either. both very classy first ladies who did wonders for the country. then it went severely down hill for 8 years. now its back to having a wonderful first lady who is in need of our positive thoughts as she undergoes this surgery.

speedy recovery mrs trump!
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I found Michelle Obama to be highly classy and dignified. Why don't you think she was?
 
MTAtech said:
This is not new, as FDR explains:

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Will watch in the morning, Videos in posts do not show for me. I click reply w/quote then I can see it, then copy and paste
Not sure what the hell is going on.

Edit- after I reply I can see it. What the heck is the problem.
 
JANFU said:
Will watch in the morning, Videos in posts do not show for me. I click reply w/quote then I can see it, then copy and paste
Not sure what the hell is going on.

Edit- after I reply I can see it. What the heck is the problem.
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Flash player? See if the same thing happens with different browsers.
 
MTAtech said:
Flash player? See if the same thing happens with different browsers.
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Works on Chrome and all my add ons in FF, Flash and such are up to date.
 
JANFU said:
Works on Chrome and all my add ons in FF, Flash and such are up to date.
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I am not sure. It is possible that a security setting is blocking but again, I am not sure.
 
MTAtech said:
I am not sure. It is possible that a security setting is blocking but again, I am not sure.
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I use Kaspersky VPN, change the setting to USA and I can watch YouTube like snl that are posted in news articles. Have tried everything but No Joy
But I took your tip and using Kaspersky to check trusted application in the event that Kas blocked it.
 
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