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Supreme Court allows sports betting across the country

I'll withhold judgement until I see how this develops. But the income potential for the states could be huge.
 
yankintx said:
I would not be looking for too many casinos South of the Mason Dixon line. I was never one to even buy a lottery ticket, its a mugs game, and stealth taxation. But hey, if others want to throw their money away and ease my tax burden more power to ya. I work too hard for my money.
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A casino is not needed. Some seating and a bunch of tv’s. I thing wagering is all over the country? Sports book was the case, I think.
 
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And here I moved to Vegas 5 years ago to bet on sports and haven't...made a single bet.
 
JacksinPA said:
I'll withhold judgement until I see how this develops. But the income potential for the states could be huge.
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The poor being scammed again? :lol:
 
In 20 years the country will try and figure out how we can overcome our growing problem with gambling addictions.

As with everything the few screw ups will wreck it for the rest of us.
 
Rexedgar said:
A casino is not needed. Some seating and a bunch of tv’s. I thing wagering is all over the country? Sports book was the case, I think.
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If I remember the original case here right, that is exactly what the issue was. Ability to wager in front of televisions. No casino needed.

By the way, I live in one of the few states in the country where casinos are not allowed. NH was the first state in the country to offer a lottery, and one of the very first to legalize betting on horse races. In our "casinos" one is only allowed to play poker, and only "charities" can run them. It kind of sucks. I love casinos.
 
Cool. I don’t gamble often at all but it is the only thing that makes most sporting events actually fun for me to watch.
 
tres borrachos said:
If I remember the original case here right, that is exactly what the issue was. Ability to wager in front of televisions. No casino needed.

By the way, I live in one of the few states in the country where casinos are not allowed. NH was the first state in the country to offer a lottery, and one of the very first to legalize betting on horse races. In our "casinos" one is only allowed to play poker, and only "charities" can run them. It kind of sucks. I love casinos.
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Can’t allow the ‘unwashed masses’ easy access to vices.......unless there is a profit to be had......
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Cool. I don’t gamble often at all but it is the only thing that makes most sporting events actually fun for me to watch.
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What if your team is getting blown out? No way you cover, still interested?
 
It's a good decision that I agree with 100% for reasons that have nothing to do with gambling. The federal government was essentially co-opting state legislatures to enforce a federal dictate and the feds are not allowed to do that. If the federal government wants to outlaw gambling it can pass a law that outlaws it instead of telling the states to outlaw it.

The decision making with respect to sports gambling is now where it belongs: with the states.


Practically speaking millions of people illegally bet on sports right now. I don't see states legalizing sports betting making a huge change in the number of people of gamble on sports.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Cool. I don’t gamble often at all but it is the only thing that makes most sporting events actually fun for me to watch.
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I like to gamble but never on sports. I've always liked to bet on things I can at least pretend to have some control over - mostly poker and golf, but also a little black jack in Las Vegas and elsewhere a few times. Craps looks like fun but I never really learned to play.

Anyway, lots of friends bet on football and to a lesser extent other sporting events. A good friend in HS was paralyzed in a football incident, has limited use of his arms, and he became a pretty big bookie around here last I heard. Had a lawyer friend of his call me about some tax questions related to gambling. No one in local law enforcement cares about bookies around here, so if he gets in trouble it will be federal, likely tax related, so he pays his taxes.

Anyway, if it's allowed in Las Vegas, the other 49 states should be able to permit it as well. Seems like a no brainer really.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
I agree w/this decision. 100%
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Would anyone like to bet that the people who end up running the NEW LEGAL "sports betting" are NOT going to be the people who are running the OLD ILLEGAL "sports betting"?
 
This decision is 100% correct having absolutely nothing to do with gambling. They struck down an flagrantly unconstitutional law, which is always a win.

This is the actual issue:

Writing for the majority, Justice Samuel Alito said the problem with the federal law is that "state legislatures are put under the direct control of Congress."

"A more direct affront to state sovereignty is not easy to imagine," he wrote.
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It's a federal law which actually directly prohibits states from legalizing sports betting. A more clear violation of the 10th Amendment, there could not be.

Ginsburg and Sotomayor were the dissenters, and this is no surprise, because the two of them have a habit, along with Kagan, of substituting their preferences for social policy results over judicious analysis of the law.
 
That's good start.

Now let's follow by getting the government out of the citizens' private sex lives, and out of telling the citizens what they can & can't put in their bodies!
 
JasperL said:
I like to gamble but never on sports. I've always liked to bet on things I can at least pretend to have some control over - mostly poker and golf, but also a little black jack in Las Vegas and elsewhere a few times. Craps looks like fun but I never really learned to play.

Anyway, lots of friends bet on football and to a lesser extent other sporting events. A good friend in HS was paralyzed in a football incident, has limited use of his arms, and he became a pretty big bookie around here last I heard. Had a lawyer friend of his call me about some tax questions related to gambling. No one in local law enforcement cares about bookies around here, so if he gets in trouble it will be federal, likely tax related, so he pays his taxes.

Anyway, if it's allowed in Las Vegas, the other 49 states should be able to permit it as well. Seems like a no brainer really.
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Hah!

I never associated Tennessee with bookies, but I'm all for it. I grew-up in an urban neighborhood where bookmaking was a respected trade, and pretty much every bar had one! And many small businesses & clubs sold numbers, too. Ah, the good old days back in the city ...
 
Chomsky said:
That's good start.

Now let's follow by getting the government out of the citizens' private sex lives, and out of telling the citizens what they can & can't put in their bodies!
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I agree.
 
not much of a sports bettor

i bet the occasional game when in vegas....going out there for the ncaa 1st weekend is always kinda fun

but i love to play poker....dont play often....very few places to play around here now....played 10-12 times a year in the DC area at their new casinos

we have casino's here in cleveland...but the one locally is nothing but slots....walked in and walked out

be nice if they add poker and a few table games
 
Chomsky said:
Hah!

I never associated Tennessee with bookies, but I'm all for it. I grew-up in an urban neighborhood where bookmaking was a respected trade, and pretty much every bar had one! And many small businesses & clubs sold numbers, too. Ah, the good old days back in the city ...
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Yep! College football is a religion around here for lots of people, and if that's your thing, betting on the games is a big part of the experience for a lot of fans of all stripes, so bookies aren't hard to find. A bar up the street from me is a "sports bar" and it's a well known hangout for bookies.

When I was younger was pretty close to a bunch of gamblers through playing golf/working at the course. Pretty interesting people for the most part and generally treated the staff well. They'd flip a $20 for cleaning their clubs or packing a cooler of beer, which was a day's wages back then at minimum wage. I'd caddy sometimes, or play with them - pretty fun. Usually me and a friend would split and pair up with the gamblers. Our part would be maybe $2 a hole, but their bet would be $100 a hole, plus presses/birdies. And then they'd drop a ball under a tree and bet each other $50 or $100 about whether they or my friend or I could skip it across a lake and hole out in 3 or whatever...

I can't remember the law exactly - been a while - but as I recall if your betting operation has fewer than 3 employees, it's effectively a misdemeanor and the city/county police really don't care and never have if all the guy is doing is taking bets and paying off as promised. And the firm I was with for a while did taxes for a local numbers runner. Like other gambler types I was involved with, he knew the risk was from the feds and evading taxes, and so we did his 1040. Put "Numbers Lottery" on the 'occupation' line as I recall, or something similar.
 
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