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Teacher suspended after showing photo of her 'future wife' is suing school district

Unless there is some rule against teachers showing pictures of their loved ones, and the story happened as told, this is definitely discrimination.
 
Carjosse said:
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I think this a clear case of discrimination based on the teacher's sexual orientation. The school should have told the parent they have to live with it.
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IF it was as the teacher was describing it a 'get to know your teacher' event, and matter-of-factly included a photo of her future wife among other photos of family, friends, etc., and it was expected of teachers that they do this, then she has a good case. Such a thing would have never been done at the public school or college level when I was in school though. If she did this arbitrarily as a ploy for 'coming out' to her students, then the school could have the better argument.

In my opinion, the best teachers give their students absolutely no clue what they personally believe about politics, religion, sexual orientation, lifestyle, marriage, divorce, abortion, gun control, or any other such topics. I was blessed with such teachers and it produces a much more comprehensive teaching environment.

What each side says on either side of most of these things isn't always as it actually was.
 
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Trippy Trekker said:
SMH - Yeah... maybe a sexual predator or serial killer?

Of course more exists to the story. The Lawsuit encourages discussion of unknown elements and underlying principles.
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I was talking about the story posted in the OP. Chances are none of us will hear about what comes out in a lawsuit assuming it goes to trial.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Unless there is some rule against teachers showing pictures of their loved ones, and the story happened as told, this is definitely discrimination.
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I know plenty of attorneys, many in the DFW area. Lawyers are great allies to have :2razz:

She can get a lawyer & sue the **** outta the MISD & she will never have to work another day as long as she is breathing :cool:
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Unless there is some rule against teachers showing pictures of their loved ones, and the story happened as told, this is definitely discrimination.
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It doesn't sound like the suspension had anything to do with showing the picture, but with other discussions she had in the classroom. (It probably didn't help that she was emailing other teachers, the superintendent, and school board members asking for policy wording change.

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“During her tenure with the district, there has never been an issue with her open sexual preferences until this year. That’s when her actions in the classroom changed, which prompted her students to voice concerns to their parents,” the district wrote in a statement sent to NBC News. “The issue at Charlotte Anderson Elementary School is whether Mrs. Bailey has followed district guidelines requiring that controversial subjects be taught in ‘an impartial and objective manner.'
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dcsports said:
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/edu...ended-after-asking-lgbtq-language-misd-policy

Forgot to post this article link, but you may be right. My guess is that she's one to make waves. Not that it's overly important, but her purple hair and unique hairstyle would certainly violate the teacher dress code at most Texas school districts.

https://twitter.com/msclayton_cae/status/861687844884054016/photo/1
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But the year before she was that school's teacher of the year, with the purple hair. That tweet announcing her as receiving the award "again" was dated just about a year ago - May 8, 2017. Just a few weeks into the next school year she became a troublemaker in class?
 
Carjosse said:
From NBCNews:


I think this a clear case of discrimination based on the teacher's sexual orientation. The school should have told the parent they have to live with it.
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Texas. What are the odds that discrimination against gays is perfectly legal there? To my knowledge sexual orientation is not yet a Federal protected class.
 
If all is as reported,she sounds like she has a very good case. You know...at some point it would be nice if administrators and leaders told people like the complaining parent that they should enjoy a nice steaming cup of shut the **** up. This kind of thing happens far too often where1 person is 'offended' and then there is a knee-jerk response to the perceived offense.
 
Haha. Promoting a homosexual agenda. Sounds like a turd of a Texas parent. They should pull that parents kids so they can be de-conditioned from their stupidity while they are at it.

Snowflake conservative can't handle a lesbian showing a picture of her wife without it being a god damned agenda or something worthy of reporting to school administration. Pathetic.
 
dcsports said:
It doesn't sound like the suspension had anything to do with showing the picture, but with other discussions she had in the classroom. (It probably didn't help that she was emailing other teachers, the superintendent, and school board members asking for policy wording change.

from the OP
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You're digging a hole for the school district. If she was put on leave etc. for the emails in the OP, how in the hell is that a permissible excuse to suspend someone? Are teachers not allowed to petition the school board in Texas? On anything? I'd like to see that policy in writing....
 
Praxas said:
Given the info, and with no other information to go on, I'd say it is a clear case of discrimination against the teacher as well. Growing up, teachers growing up would mention their spouses in the classroom with no issue. If some homophobic parent wants to shield their kids from the FACT that gay marriage is now legal and that there are same sex couples that are married, then there are plenty of religious schools to send their kids to.
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Yep, I hope she takes them for all they're worth. This is inexcusable in this day and age.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
And here's another typical idiotic response. Anybody can read all the post made on this forum and be able to predict the dumb positions some of these right wing trolls will post
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No such posts exist on this thread. Which is why you cannot quote them.

If pointing out your failure is idiotic, then how intelligent is making hateful predictions that fail to pan out? If that is your idea of intelligence, you're welcome to it; because no one here is buying your hateful delusions.

Utterly pathetic partisan bigot.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
This is definitely the Texas I grew up in. An outraged parent screaming and kicking up dust about a "homosexual agenda" simply because a teacher admitted she was gay. Too many backwards and discriminatory ****s in my home state.
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Amen(figuratively speaking), brother. As a native Texan, and spending half my life in my birth place, Dallas, and for the balance living in rural Texas Hill County. The rural residents have an edge on the urban areas when it comes to discrimination about immutable characteristics.

When I was a teen my friends and I would get a little drunk and go to Mansfield, Texas to the Cow Bell Rodeo Arena on Friday nights (buck out night) and pay $5.00 to ride a young bull (not yet killer level mature). It was pretty much a rural area, which is no longer the case. But, I’m not altogether surprised that this type of discrimination is “still” prevalent in Mansfield.

It’s beyond me why Texas has maintained its Bible Belt status because so many have come from California and other less conservative states.
 
JasperL said:
You're digging a hole for the school district. If she was put on leave etc. for the emails in the OP, how in the hell is that a permissible excuse to suspend someone? Are teachers not allowed to petition the school board in Texas? On anything? I'd like to see that policy in writing....
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Petition the school board? Sure you can, and there's a venue for that. But a lot depends on what was said and how. But it's not normal for teachers (or any employee) to bypass their chain of command and start an email campaign with the board.

My point is, I don't think this had a thing to do with the picture shown in class, and a lot to do with other things that occurred.
 
Cardinal said:
Texas. What are the odds that discrimination against gays is perfectly legal there? To my knowledge sexual orientation is not yet a Federal protected class.
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I think you answered your own question. Sexual orientation is not a protected class.

However, Texas tends to frown on discrimination in general, especially in the public sector. This is especially true around the DFW area. As the school district pointed out, the teacher's sexual orientation has never been an issue -- the concern was her behavior this year. What IS frowned upon in the state, and in school districts, is becoming disruptive and intentionally 'rocking the boat'.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Unless there is some rule against teachers showing pictures of their loved ones, and the story happened as told, this is definitely discrimination.
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Legal discrimination as far as state law goes.

"As of 2013, Texas state law does not protect employees from discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.[35] Since at least 1999, no bill prohibiting discrimination by employers based on sexual orientation or gender identity has made it out of the committee stage in the Texas Legislature."

However, it looks like she would have a case in Federal court:

"Judge Lee Rosenthal of the Southern District Court of Texas has ruled that sexual orientation and gender identity fall under Federal Protections. [43] However, in April 2018, a federal judge in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas ruled that although a woman hadn't proven she had been discriminated against for being transgender by the company Phillips 66, if that had been proven, then the woman would have "had a case" under Title VII of the US Civil Rights Act of 1964."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Texas

If the story presented is true on its face, then it sounds like the school would have a tough time arguing that she was fired for reasons other than her sexual orientation.
 
Some state will be both lucky, and proud, to get such a good teacher.

I see this as a win/win.

She'll get a better life once she's left Texas.
 
dcsports said:
I think you answered your own question. Sexual orientation is not a protected class.

However, Texas tends to frown on discrimination in general, especially in the public sector. This is especially true around the DFW area. As the school district pointed out, the teacher's sexual orientation has never been an issue -- the concern was her behavior this year. What IS frowned upon in the state, and in school districts, is becoming disruptive and intentionally 'rocking the boat'.
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Apparently the exact opposite of your conclusions are true. It's legal in the state and barred in Federal.
 
dcsports said:
Petition the school board? Sure you can, and there's a venue for that. But a lot depends on what was said and how. But it's not normal for teachers (or any employee) to bypass their chain of command and start an email campaign with the board.

My point is, I don't think this had a thing to do with the picture shown in class, and a lot to do with other things that occurred.
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And you base that on what? The vague non-statement by the school? The complaint cites a specific incident, the school responds vagueness.
 
dcsports said:
Petition the school board? Sure you can, and there's a venue for that. But a lot depends on what was said and how. But it's not normal for teachers (or any employee) to bypass their chain of command and start an email campaign with the board.
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It's not? The local school can't change district policy, so why would someone start with the people in her school who can't change anything. And you don't know if she did start with them - the school obviously supports her - named her Teacher of the Year. And her first email on the linked article says, "I was told by Dr. Cantu with HR to contact you about my concerns." So she in fact DID try to work through the chain of command as instructed.....

And my point is that you say, "A lot depends on what was said and how" but there's nothing, zero in the record that indicates she did anything out of line, in any way. The emails were normal enough. No demand, no threat to go public

My point is, I don't think this had a thing to do with the picture shown in class, and a lot to do with other things that occurred.
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But you've identified her hair, which isn't it because with that hair she was named teacher of the year, and that she might be a troublemaker, but there's no evidence of that.

I thought it was interesting that she emailed other schools in the district on September 7 about LGBT groups, and was suspended on September 8th. Coinkydink? Doubt it.
 
Watching all of the abstinence only education, let's teach creationism next to biology, pledge allegiance to the flag at school, types suddenly say convoluted forms of "if there is no ploy here" or "if politics weren't being inserted then she is good" is hilarious.

Sent from a memo written by Nunes and edited by Trump.
 
Was anybody surprised to see a teacher fired for her sexual orientation in Texas? No, I didn't think so....
Was anybody surprised to see the board's conservatives speculate about things they'd have no way of knowing in order to justify this firing?

No. I didn't think so.
 
RickJames3000 said:
Was anybody surprised to see a teacher fired for her sexual orientation in Texas? No, I didn't think so....
Was anybody surprised to see the board's conservatives speculate about things they'd have no way of knowing in order to justify this firing?

No. I didn't think so.
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I agree in one case, but you have to give credit where it's due and we have a fair number of conservatives on this thread taking the teacher's side in this, so it's fair to point out that the argument for the school district is a distinctly minority view so far on this thread, even among conservatives. :peace
 
JasperL said:
I agree in one case, but you have to give credit where it's due and we have a fair number of conservatives on this thread taking the teacher's side in this, so it's fair to point out that the argument for the school district is a distinctly minority view so far on this thread, even among conservatives. :peace
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True, that even surprised me. In a good way.
 
Removable Mind said:
Amen(figuratively speaking), brother. As a native Texan, and spending half my life in my birth place, Dallas, and for the balance living in rural Texas Hill County. The rural residents have an edge on the urban areas when it comes to discrimination about immutable characteristics.

When I was a teen my friends and I would get a little drunk and go to Mansfield, Texas to the Cow Bell Rodeo Arena on Friday nights (buck out night) and pay $5.00 to ride a young bull (not yet killer level mature). It was pretty much a rural area, which is no longer the case. But, I’m not altogether surprised that this type of discrimination is “still” prevalent in Mansfield.

It’s beyond me why Texas has maintained its Bible Belt status because so many have come from California and other less conservative states.
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Ha, yeah I grew up in south Fort Worth in a little town called Burleson. It's a nice area, just don't expect a high density of enlightened individuals.
 
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