Trump's CIA pick promises no more harsh interrogation program

Anthony60 said:

Time for you to shut up now. You don't get to call names, lose, then decide you want to debate again. You F'd up, go away.

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I hate to break it to you, but that's not how debates work. You don't get to flail away, fail to make any sort of relevant or coherent points, and then start shrieking about how others should "shut up" because your fantasies won't let you face the truth.

You have shown yourself to be a bad joke.

PIPEWRENCH said:

You can believe what you want but if the information will save millions of lives torture will by used by every government on this planet. Everything has a price.

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THAT is the entire problem and why people can't bring themselves to seeing the issue for what it is. This tired default of an excuse for torture relies upon a highly unlikely scenario. This is not an episode of 24. This is not a Hollywood movie where hanging a man off the side of a building will save thousands of lives in New York City if he only give up the location to his doomsday device.

We have actually romanticized the notion of torture into a fantasy where we pretend not to have a choice; or are too stupid to remain above the sophomoric behaviors of foreign third-world Intel communities who have only the capacity to bludgeon and hack their way to useful and useless information.

Everything does have a price. Torture would not have prevented 9/11. Proper Intel work would have. Telling our Intel community (CIA) that "enhanced techniques" is authorized tells them that they don't have to actually do their jobs before it gets to that very unnecessary level.