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Trump's CIA pick promises no more harsh interrogation program

JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ore-harsh-interrogation-program-idUSKBN1IA0H6

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s nominee to head the CIA told U.S. lawmakers on Wednesday “my moral compass is strong” and she would never resume the agency’s harsh interrogation program, often denounced as torture, that has threatened to derail her confirmation.

Gina Haspel, currently the spy agency’s acting director, told her Senate confirmation hearing she would not carry out any order from Trump she found morally objectionable, though she did not say she would refuse an order to use waterboarding, a form of simulated torture, to get answers from a terrorism suspect.
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This lady ran a CIA 'black site' prison in Thailand where post-9/11 battlefield captives were subjected to 'enhanced interrogation techniques, including water boarding.

Democratic Senator Mark Warner expressed concern about her use of the harsh techniques & the 2005 decision to destroy the videotapes of the torture sessions.
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“Trump's CIA pick promises no more harsh interrogation program”

Promises, promises. I have never seen this kind of promise work. Years later, you'll find out they've been up to something just as egregious all the while. She could find another form of interrogation as or more harsh and say the DOJ said it was legal or that there was a clear and present danger or that it wasn’t truly harsh interrogation or it wasn’t really torture or…
 
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Barnacle said:
Don't know how old you are, but every military historian will tell you that not a single war was won by Americans without "extracting" vital info from enemy combatants.

And just ask the Brits how they fought the IRA.
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My father fought in World War II. Unlike the Nazis and Japanese, Americans did not torture German or Japanese prisoners. Somehow, we won the war maintaining the moral high-ground.
 
JoeTrumps said:
yep, back then if you had a penis you were a man and if you tortured someone they would be, you know, actually physically harmed. That god the liberals showed us the way with their self-righteous indignation and politically correct double talk. Aren't we all so lucky to have them?
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I make no apologies for liberals, who consistently object to the immorality of torture. If we are to be better than Nazis and ISIS, we must not use the methods of Nazis and ISIS. Perhaps you are suggesting that we should behead prisons or execute civilians to make a examples of them?

Moreover, while Trump said "torture works," he has no clue about what works or not (on many topics.) The experts who really know say torture does not work.
 
MTAtech said:
I make no apologies for liberals, who consistently object to the immorality of torture. If we are to be better than Nazis and ISIS, we must not use the methods of Nazis and ISIS. Perhaps you are suggesting that we should behead prisons or execute civilians to make a examples of them?

Moreover, while Trump said "torture works," he has no clue about what works or not (on many topics.) The experts who really know say torture does not work.
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If I recall right, Trump said "Torture works. Believe me." I was also curious exactly how he knows that, considering my cat saw more military service than Trump did.
 
Everyone remember this thread when the anti-Trumpers attack Trump for besmirching the good name of the men and women of the CIA. :roll:
 
jmotivator said:
Everyone remember this thread when the anti-Trumpers attack Trump for besmirching the good name of the men and women of the CIA. :roll:
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Hasn’t Trump already besmirched the reputation of the CIA and the FBI?
 
MTAtech said:
Hasn’t Trump already besmirched the reputation of the CIA and the FBI?
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That is the claim, I am just pointing out the abject hypocrisy of those who attack Trump for something they do regularly.
 
Yes and that promise was followed by Trump saying that the Stormy Daniels saga is fake news.........but every time he turns on the weather and hears it going to get Stormy he breaks out in the sweats. The way she answered questions I agree with McCain.....she is OUT.
 
bluesmoke said:
“Trump's CIA pick promises no more harsh interrogation program”

Promises, promises. I have never seen this kind of promise work. Years later, you'll find out they've been up to something just as egregious all the while. She could find another form of interrogation as or more harsh and say the DOJ said it was legal or that there was a clear and present danger or that it wasn’t truly harsh interrogation or it wasn’t really torture or…
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The problem with her statement (and I opt to believe her that given her choice, she won't do it again - she was doing what she was allowed to do by the law given to her at the time, and the approval of the White House) is precisely what Senator Collins showed concern about. Trump has vocally and repeatedly called for more torture. According to him, it "works" (even though nobody with half a brain would consider his proclamation the truth since the man has absolutely zero knowledge of the subject). Collins asked her right out what she would do if she was given a direct order by the President to do it. After hesitating for a bit, she said that she didn't believe Trump would do that. That right there was concerning. Either she never listened to Trump, or she did, and she didn't understand his words.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ore-harsh-interrogation-program-idUSKBN1IA0H6

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s nominee to head the CIA told U.S. lawmakers on Wednesday “my moral compass is strong” and she would never resume the agency’s harsh interrogation program, often denounced as torture, that has threatened to derail her confirmation.

Gina Haspel, currently the spy agency’s acting director, told her Senate confirmation hearing she would not carry out any order from Trump she found morally objectionable, though she did not say she would refuse an order to use waterboarding, a form of simulated torture, to get answers from a terrorism suspect.
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This lady ran a CIA 'black site' prison in Thailand where post-9/11 battlefield captives were subjected to 'enhanced interrogation techniques, including water boarding.

Democratic Senator Mark Warner expressed concern about her use of the harsh techniques & the 2005 decision to destroy the videotapes of the torture sessions.
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Holy hell will this stupidity ever stop?
 
MTAtech said:
Hasn’t Trump already besmirched the reputation of the CIA and the FBI?
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Well, in all fairness, he didn't besmirch the torture. In fact, just the opposite. He seemed to enjoy the idea of it. He called for more of it. He likes it. In fact, according to him, it works.

He likes the CIA when it tortures people. He just doesn't like it when it keeps Americans safe from harm.
 
tres borrachos said:
Well, in all fairness, he didn't besmirch the torture. In fact, just the opposite. He seemed to enjoy the idea of it. He called for more of it. He likes it. In fact, according to him, it works.

He likes the CIA when it tortures people. He just doesn't like it when it keeps Americans safe from harm.
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He likes the idea of torture because he’s a sadistic 8astard that enjoys makings people suffer, because it elevates his notion of his own power.
 
Man, it's great entertainment watching the "anti" crowd gnash their teeth, and know there's NOTHING they can do....she will be confirmed, and the "anti" crowd will continue to look like complete fools.

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jmotivator said:
Everyone remember this thread when the anti-Trumpers attack Trump for besmirching the good name of the men and women of the CIA. :roll:
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Remember when there was a middle ground between "the entire organization is a rogue agency and must be eliminated" and "the entire organization is 100% innocent down to every last individual?"
 
j-mac said:
Man, it's great entertainment watching the "anti" crowd gnash their teeth, and know there's NOTHING they can do....she will be confirmed, and the "anti" crowd will continue to look like complete fools.

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"I support torture literally because liberals are against it."

Were you one of those conservatives who claims to follow a dude named Jesus? I can't recall.
 
Deuce said:
Remember when there was a middle ground between "the entire organization is a rogue agency and must be eliminated" and "the entire organization is 100% innocent down to every last individual?"
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Yes I do. Remember when you blamed someone for saying something they didn't say?
 
tres borrachos said:
The problem with her statement (and I opt to believe her that given her choice, she won't do it again - she was doing what she was allowed to do by the law given to her at the time, and the approval of the White House) is precisely what Senator Collins showed concern about. Trump has vocally and repeatedly called for more torture. According to him, it "works" (even though nobody with half a brain would consider his proclamation the truth since the man has absolutely zero knowledge of the subject). Collins asked her right out what she would do if she was given a direct order by the President to do it. After hesitating for a bit, she said that she didn't believe Trump would do that. That right there was concerning. Either she never listened to Trump, or she did, and she didn't understand his words.
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Yup. We'd find out some time after the fact that on orders from Trump she ordered something done just as or more egregious than waterboarding. However, we don't know about what other interrogation technique was used because she destroyed the tapes on the fact of that matter. Also, after lengthy questioning about who had the authority to declassify what she has done in the past (she was a spook) for Congress to know her full record, she finally admitted she herself was the only one that could do that. The great majority of her time at the CIA is classified. We, Congress, really does not know what her record is.
 
j-mac said:
Man, it's great entertainment watching the "anti" crowd gnash their teeth, and know there's NOTHING they can do....she will be confirmed, and the "anti" crowd will continue to look like complete fools.

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So we look like fools when we object to her approval of or inaction to prevent torture? It's foolish to object to tyranny? Or do you oppose torture but think it's foolish to question her about it because she probably has the votes?
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ore-harsh-interrogation-program-idUSKBN1IA0H6

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s nominee to head the CIA told U.S. lawmakers on Wednesday “my moral compass is strong” and she would never resume the agency’s harsh interrogation program, often denounced as torture, that has threatened to derail her confirmation.

Gina Haspel, currently the spy agency’s acting director, told her Senate confirmation hearing she would not carry out any order from Trump she found morally objectionable, though she did not say she would refuse an order to use waterboarding, a form of simulated torture, to get answers from a terrorism suspect.
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This lady ran a CIA 'black site' prison in Thailand where post-9/11 battlefield captives were subjected to 'enhanced interrogation techniques, including water boarding.

Democratic Senator Mark Warner expressed concern about her use of the harsh techniques & the 2005 decision to destroy the videotapes of the torture sessions.
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Torture isn't enhanced interrogation -- So essentially, the CIA will still be torturing in a very enhanced interrogatively way #MAGA
 
Breaking News Update!

This is appalling the New York Slimes would do this:

New York Times Runs Op-ed By Wife of Terrorist to Smear Gina Haspel
Just a moment...
 
Barnacle said:
Don't know how old you are, but every military historian will tell you that not a single war was won by Americans without "extracting" vital info from enemy combatants.

And just ask the Brits how they fought the IRA.
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False, torture has never added any level of aid to the overall military situation, and certainly didn’t help win any wars.
 
Tigerace117 said:
False, torture has never added any level of aid to the overall military situation, and certainly didn’t help win any wars.
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"... "extracting" vital info from enemy combatants ..."

What you might call torture, others call interrogation.
 
Now that we have Iraq, we don’t need water boarding. They do a very good job of “extraction” without all the mess on our hands.
 
Nickyjo said:
So we look like fools when we object to her approval of or inaction to prevent torture? It's foolish to object to tyranny? Or do you oppose torture but think it's foolish to question her about it because she probably has the votes?
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Yes.




Look, you people didn't have this moral crisis when it came to confirming her boss Brennan, who I might add disagreed with his boss, Obama in calling it torture....So, yeah....Tell us some more.
 
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