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Trump Withdraws U.S. From ‘One-Sided’ Iran Nuclear Deal

Common Sense 1 said:
Only one big problem the US Senate would have never passed the deal as a treaty!! So Obama did the deal on his own accord and now Trump could easily withdraw from the deal.
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Because Obama!! This is how blind partisanship is destroying the U.S. and strengthening our enemies. Putin is laughing at us yet again.
 
JANFU said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/world/middleeast/trump-iran-nuclear-deal.html


Sanctions reimposed.
Wonder how this will turn out?
The Iranian economy is cratering, a battle between the moderates and hardliners is now on.
And demonstrations against the regime will be dealt with as previous ones, but more deaths and prison terms including executions
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The sad fact is that conservatives hate other conservatives from other countries. And when conservatives show that hate, it emboldens the conservatives in that other country. Then we have a bunch of jerks running around with their asses on their shoulders.

The reaction to trump's conservatism will be for Iran to slight away from the moderates and towards the hardliners for tough-talking "defense".
 
tres borrachos said:
I was born in 1962 and didn't pay much attention to the war. I was playing with dolls.
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I was born in '67 and had a GI Joe and Captain America. They lived together in GI Joe's tree fort. :)
 
JoeTrumps said:
The Iranians refused to allow nuclear inspectors inside any military bases. THATS THE **** DEAL YOU ARE TRYING TO DEFEND.
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But who keeps nuclear weapon components on military bases, you big silly!
 
tres borrachos said:
I was born in 1962 and didn't pay much attention to the war. I was playing with dolls.
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A lot of time has passed. Seemingly, you haven't even paid enough attention to realize it was another USA illegal invasion, a massive series of USA war crimes and terrorism against the people of Vietnam, just like the US did in Korea, Cambodia, Laos, Indonesia, East Timor.
 
poweRob said:
The sad fact is that conservatives hate other conservatives from other countries. And when conservatives show that hate, it emboldens the conservatives in that other country. Then we have a bunch of jerks running around with their asses on their shoulders.

The reaction to trump's conservatism will be for Iran to slight away from the moderates and towards the hardliners for tough-talking "defense".
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Yep, which will create more extremists. Thanks, President Idiot.
 
camlok said:
A lot of time has passed. Seemingly, you haven't even paid enough attention to realize it was another USA illegal invasion, a massive series of USA war crimes and terrorism against the people of Vietnam, just like the US did in Korea, Cambodia, Laos, Indonesia, East Timor.
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Oh, I know exactly what it was.
 
OscarLevant said:
This will go down as the epic blunder of Trump's presidency. The deal was supported by:

— More than 100 former U.S. ambassadors, career and political alike, and from both parties, who signed a similar public letter endorsing the deal. It begins, “The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) with Iran stands as a landmark agreement in deterring the proliferation of nuclear weapons.”

— More than 60 American “national-security leaders”—politicians, military officers, strategists, Republicans and Democrats—who issued their own public letter urging Congress to approve the deal. E.g., “We congratulate President Obama and all the negotiators for a landmark agreement unprecedented in its importance for preventing the acquisition of nuclear weapons by Iran.” Here are a few Republicans who signed this letter: former Special Trade Representative Carla Hills; former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill; former Senator Nancy Landon Kassebaum. Here are a few Democrats: former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright; former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell; former Defense Secretary William Perry. I’m resisting saying: But what do any of them know, compared with Mike Huckabee?

— Hans Blix, the former head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, who a dozen years ago tried to avert the disaster in Iraq. He says of the deal, “I think it is a remarkably far-reaching and detailed agreement. And I think it has a potential for stabilizing and improving the situation in the region as it gradually gets implemented.”


For more info, see:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/07/the-iran-debate-moves-on/399713/
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It's hard to pick worst blunder. The abrogating of the Paris Climate Accord as disastrous implications and took years to formulate and get concessions from countries like India.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Don't think that will ever happen. Once the US puts the sanctions back that is pretty much it!
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It would be an interesting test. I'm not sure how many of those countries would be willing to forego much needed trade to appease Trump's ego, which is all this is.

At some point this guy is going to overstep, and you'll feel what true isolationism feels like...not sure you'll like it much.
 
tres borrachos said:
Christonacracker. What makes any person with a working brain think that Donald J. Trump, a reality TV game show host real estate developer from New York, has more credibility than those people?

God help this country.
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Borrowing Hillary's lines now?
How befitting.
 
iguanaman said:
Because Obama!! This is how blind partisanship is destroying the U.S. and strengthening our enemies. Putin is laughing at us yet again.
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It's now pretty clear that the Trump Fans hate Barack Obama more than they love the country. Posts in this thread and elsewhere confirm it.

Sad, pathetic - and pretty sick.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Because it's been the neo-conservative fantasy since 1979 to invade Iran and restore a pro-Western government.
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No, the real great is to do away with modern civilization, so they can go back to dragging their women around by the hair and putting them back where they "belong". :roll:
 
trixare4kids said:
Borrowing Hillary's lines now?
How befitting.
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You always make the dumbest posts.

If you look back to my posts from 2016, that's what I always called him. You're free to do a search on my posts and see the many hundreds I've made calling him that.

You should stop embarrassing yourself, and simply let the adults carry on.
 
poweRob said:
The sad fact is that conservatives hate other conservatives from other countries. And when conservatives show that hate, it emboldens the conservatives in that other country. Then we have a bunch of jerks running around with their asses on their shoulders.

The reaction to trump's conservatism will be for Iran to slight away from the moderates and towards the hardliners for tough-talking "defense".
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This shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone. Why would Iran want to open itself to another US illegal overthrow of its government and lands? Really, are Americans this stupid?

Americans are constantly whining about threats to their "national security" when there are NONE, never has been any!! But they can't grasp that the poorer countries of the world are in a constant state of fear from the US Terrorist/War Criminal "nation".
 
cuban smokes said:
So, going forward, any time the US makes a 'deal' with another nation, signs a treaty, offers to be party to an agreement, etc., it doesn't mean ****.

OK, got it.

Obviously that is why we can't even balance a budget, nor keep from racking up exponential debt, because we cannot even meet our own agreements with our own people.

****; we sure are reliable ...............
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This isn't a treaty.
 
MrPeanut said:
Isn't that the purpose of all of this?
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Honestly I do not know. I do know that Iran ha significantly improved Hezbollah defenses and offensive capabilities with estimates of 100 K missiles hidden away. Hezbollah now has significant depth of combat experience from operating in Syria-Iraq.
And needless to say they have been burrowing away boltholes to store and attack Israel from. This war will be be the bloodiest Israel has ever fought, with significant Military/Civilian causalities.

Iran has been expanding their presence in Syria and storing missiles in the area along with Rev Guard presence. I think that will be the 1st war, Israel-Iran-Hezbollah
 
Jredbaron96 said:
And so the United States continues a slow and steady decline into isolation and lose our strategic status in the Middle East.
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If there is one thing that brought Israel and the majority of the Middle Eastern countries together it was the hate of Iran and the Iran deal.
 
leekohler2 said:
You must have missed the 60s. They were about getting rid of the draft so the rich kids would never have to go. The rest of that peace and love stuff was nothing but BS, as that generation has proven over the years.
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I was a teenager in the 60s, one of the better decades for music and consciousness sea change.

We were about getting rid of the draft, period. Rich kids didn't go anyway owing to connections, nice college deferments, doctors willing to say you got 'bone spurs' etc. Some volunteered, but most didn't. I avoided the draft on the lottery, my number was 206, and they only drafted up to 195, but I wasn't fighting the draft. I joined the Navy about 10 years later, anyway.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
When will we give up said fantasy?
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Never, so long as neo-cons exist we will always have fools who think the appropriate response to everything is to deploy the United States Armed Forces.
 
OscarLevant said:
This will go down as the epic blunder of Trump's presidency. The deal was supported by:

— More than 100 former U.S. ambassadors, career and political alike, and from both parties, who signed a similar public letter endorsing the deal. It begins, “The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) with Iran stands as a landmark agreement in deterring the proliferation of nuclear weapons.”

— More than 60 American “national-security leaders”—politicians, military officers, strategists, Republicans and Democrats—who issued their own public letter urging Congress to approve the deal. E.g., “We congratulate President Obama and all the negotiators for a landmark agreement unprecedented in its importance for preventing the acquisition of nuclear weapons by Iran.” Here are a few Republicans who signed this letter: former Special Trade Representative Carla Hills; former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill; former Senator Nancy Landon Kassebaum. Here are a few Democrats: former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright; former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell; former Defense Secretary William Perry. I’m resisting saying: But what do any of them know, compared with Mike Huckabee?

— Hans Blix, the former head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, who a dozen years ago tried to avert the disaster in Iraq. He says of the deal, “I think it is a remarkably far-reaching and detailed agreement. And I think it has a potential for stabilizing and improving the situation in the region as it gradually gets implemented.”


For more info, see:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/07/the-iran-debate-moves-on/399713/
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You forgot the most important support Obamafail did not have and that was CONGRESS. He did not go to congress because he did not have the support for the votes. All Obamafail did was right an EO. And as you know Trump has deleted all of Obamafail's EO's.
 
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