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Video shows white officers throwing black woman to floor at Waffle House

Fearandloathing said:
So you are being tortured, as cops have been known to do, then what?
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Was this girl being tortured?

And, for the record, in a democracy there is no law that says one must obey EVERY command of a law enforcement officer. The law I am familiar with says "...the reasonable request of an officer."
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When you're told to leave someone else's property, you leave. When you don't, the police have every right to use force.

If that officer is breaking a law, I have every ****ing right to resist and sue the **** out of the taxpayers on the other side. Guys like you make that easy because you support EVERYTHING a cop does, thus when injuries or death results from the behavior they have been having ignored, boom, you pay the piper and bitch about liberal courts.

Get your hounds under control first.

I have investigated hundreds of these and I know that valid complaints are in the minority, however since the advent of cell phones and video not much escapes notice and the rabid hounds are being found out.

Why did they strip her anyway? Is that part of arrest procedure? Rip a woman's dress off?

And then wonder where the term "pig" comes from
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Watch the video. The towel (that's essentially what it was) she was wearing was half way coming off even before she went to the ground.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Whatever.

You support cops pulling a woman's dress off and throwing her to the floor...and its an accident she's black?

Come on.
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Ripped off? It fell off because it was barely on in the first place.

And why do you bring up black as if her being black is purely an example of racism? At what point does it become a common attitude among blacks? Why is it always an evidence of the former and never evidence of the latter?
 
holbritter said:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Trump. Stop trying to start an argument and derailing the thread. Sick of every thread turning into this crap.
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Actually, it does. Whenever one of this incidents happens that involves minority and cops, usually white cops, right wingers are quick to jump to the defense of law enforcement. But then they, along with their president and right wing media, support and push conspiracy theories about the FBI, and support a president who said the FBI is 'a den full of thieves and low lives". So pardon me if I don't take the right seriously when these matters come up.
 
Puigb said:
Actually, it does. Whenever one of this incidents happens that involves minority and cops, usually white cops, right wingers are quick to jump to the defense of law enforcement. But then they , long with their president and right wing media, support and push conspiracy theories about the FBI, and support a president who said the FBI is 'a den full of thieves and low lives". So pardon me if I don't take the right seriously when these matters come up.
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That's because nearly every single time that this happens it involves the minority being unreasonable, not cooperating, or even committing crimes. Are we not allowed to notice patterns?
 
holbritter said:
Here's the video.

People need to stop resisting arrest. The video does not show the beginning of it all, so we are left with not knowing all of the story.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/talalansar...e-arrest-after?utm_term=.hsjo2mO8Z#.nn7kwe3mv


Police detectives played an audio clip of the 911 call made to police by a Waffle House employee and showed three surveillance videos from inside the Waffle House.

In the 911 call, an employee named Ally said three individuals entered the restaurant with alcohol and were drunk.

Detective Collette Little then played videos taken from three cameras inside the Waffle House. One video showed the women entering with a man and sitting at a booth. "The situation then escalated between the patrons at that table and the employees," Det. Little said about the second video, which showed a heated argument. "At this point the employee has asked the patrons to leave the establishment," Det. Little said. After the group left, a third video shows two women returning.

Citing witness testimony, Det. Little and Det. Mims, who did not give his first name, said the women used profanity and threats. "I'll come over this counter and beat your ****ing ass, bitch I'm gonna have your job, you ain't gonna be here tomorrow," Det. Mims read from a witnesses statement.
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Thanks for posting this. I suspected there was more to the story.

However the officer's claiming he will break the women's arm, would seem to me to be an infraction-able offense on his part.
 
I see that this thread died once we got more context. Isn't that how these things always go?
 
Rogue Valley said:
I watched the video. Didn't see anything that warranted the police being so heavy handed.

Much like that nurse in Houston, and the two young black men in Starbucks.
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You were not there and did not see what happened before the video. You have no basis whatsoever to judge.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Under normal circumstances I would agree with you. But this is "Trump's America" and I believe NOTHING from official sources unless documented. Trump lies, the people don't care, so now teachers and clerks and police and soldiers and cops and mayors and senators and congressmen and billionaires and white supremacists can all lie and nothing will happen to them.

Second, it's America, the gun loving minority hating stereotype personified in one video clip.

The fact there were three big, burly, armed and armored cops who stripped her and threw her to the ground kind of tells the story about what is tolerated by citizens. These cops wouldn't be directing traffic in my town.
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That is clearly the most irrational rant i have ever seen you post. Do you think Trump is in charge of city police officers? And it was resisting arrest that led to the woman ending up on the floor. And nobody stripped her.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Wow....there is so much wrong with this post that I don't even know where to start. And frankly I'm not even going to try.
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I used to think he was pretty rational outside of partisan politics.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Whatever.

You support cops pulling a woman's dress off and throwing her to the floor...and its an accident she's black?

Come on.
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They did not pull her dress off or throw her to the floor. If you are going to resist arrest, you should dress accordingly.
 
Chomsky said:
Thanks for posting this. I suspected there was more to the story.

However the officer's claiming he will break the women's arm, would seem to me to be an infraction-able offense on his part.
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The Saraland Police Dept is reviewing the entire incident. If the one cop was out of line with that statement, he will certainly be reprimanded.
 
I’ll go out on a limb here and guess that she didn’t follow orders...
 
danarhea said:
What was this woman's crime? Asking for the phone number of the corporate office so she could file a complaint against the cashier, who was charging her extra for the plasticwear. She had never been charged them before at the same restaurant. She broke no law. She didn't cause any disturbance. They called the cops on her for absolutely no reason than she had a complaint about their service.

'Ya know, I have a lot of respect for the vast majority of police officers, who do a thankless and dirty job that nobody else wants to do. However, these 3 cops maggots are not among them. There are extenuating circumstances, though. This is Alabama, where men are men, and mules, as well as teenage girls and anybody who is not white, are afraid. Just ask yourself, what would Roy Moore do.... Wait, don't ask.

As for this musician, who likes to get breakfast after a gig, I am permanently boycotting Waffle House until these cops, as well as he waitress who called the cops, are all fired. If they are not fired, then I will never eat at a Waffle House again. No reason at all for this disgusting display of racism to happen. Ever. Period.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/saraland-waffle-house-arrest-video-alabama-police-chikesia-clemons/
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Yeah. Alabama. Whod'a thunk it. Where men are men and dogs are nervous. And where racism is alive and well. As it is in the rest of the US. And people have the audacity to feel minorities, especially blacks, are favored over whites and whites are discriminated against. The majority of white men think that way. Even though there are more white men in state governorships, state legislatures, the Senate, the House, the Presidency and the Supreme Court than women or minorities now and throughout history. Go figure.
 
Kal'Stang said:
There's always more than one side to a story. I'd like to hear those sides before I pass judgement.
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How many full stories do you have to hear before you get a clue? Do you think stories like this are only just now happening or becoming known?
 
ObamacareFail said:
They did not pull her dress off or throw her to the floor. If you are going to resist arrest, you should dress accordingly.
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So her tits exposed themselves all by themselves. Those are very talented tits. :mrgreen:
 
bluesmoke said:
How many full stories do you have to hear before you get a clue? Do you think stories like this are only just now happening or becoming known?
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"stories like this"? Perhaps you should expand on what you're talking about here. Are you claiming that the OP is accurate? If so then I'd suggest that you look towards post #8 by Holbritter. He provides a link which has evidence, evidence that shows a very different picture than the picture that the OP provided. Both video evidence and eye witness statements.
 
danarhea said:
So her tits exposed themselves all by themselves. Those are very talented tits. :mrgreen:
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No, they got exposed because she resisted arrest. Which means she struggled. Considering that her dress barely covered her tits to begin with I'm not surprised that a struggle would have exposed them.
 
Kal'Stang said:
"stories like this"? Perhaps you should expand on what you're talking about here. Are you claiming that the OP is accurate? If so then I'd suggest that you look towards post #8 by Holbritter. He provides a link which has evidence, evidence that shows a very different picture than the picture that the OP provided. Both video evidence and eye witness statements.
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My point is you can pick apart any one story, but that does not negate the fact of prevalent racism. I see so many posts that decry how one incident or another is really the "fault" of the otherwise seemingly wronged minority. I don't hear those posters admitting to the obvious disparate outcomes to do with racism and bias against minorities, which contradict any mere, singular, anecdotal accounts some posters get on about.
 
danarhea said:
So her tits exposed themselves all by themselves. Those are very talented tits. :mrgreen:
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If you are going to resist arrest and wrestle with cops, you should not wear clothing that barely stays in place to begin with. I am going to give you the benefit of doubt and assume you can work that out.

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Waffle housess response:

Waffle House backs workers who called police on black woman - ABC News

The Waffle House statement released today says its workers did the right thing by calling the police on Clemons.

"Witnesses say several threats were made to our associates including threats of violence, and that's why the police were called," a Waffle House statement reads.

The statement continues: "It has also been reported that the customer made reference to a gun and using that gun. Our primary concern is always for the safety of our customers and our associates. We train our associates to contact local law enforcement anytime there is any concern about their personal safety or that of our customers."
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Ignore cops, threaten violence and have an entire community defend you and attack the people being threatened with violence.. There really is privilege, it's just not of the white variety.
 
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bluesmoke said:
My point is you can pick apart any one story, but that does not negate the fact of prevalent racism. I see so many posts that decry how one incident or another is really the "fault" of the otherwise seemingly wronged minority. I don't hear those posters admitting to the obvious disparate outcomes to do with racism and bias against minorities, which contradict any mere, singular, anecdotal accounts some posters get on about.
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Tell you what, point out racism to me. Actual racism. Not nebulous racism that is directed at everything and nothing. I'll be right there decrying it with ya. KKK? **** em. They're assholes that makes my left pinky toe look like a genius. Nazi's? Same. But I can't do anything about racism if you don't point to concrete instances.

In this particular instance though, there is no racism to be had. Just because the perp was a black person and the cops were white does not automatically mean that racism was involved in anyway shape or form. And we should ALL pick apart stories. That is how you find out the truth of the matter. You don't pick up a book, read the cover and automatically assume that its going to be the worst book in the history of mankind. That's just pure intellectual laziness. And that is exactly what the OP did in this instance. Saw the cover of the story and automatically assumed the worst.
 
bluesmoke said:
My point is you can pick apart any one story, but that does not negate the fact of prevalent racism.
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Yeah, you can pick apart any one story Kal! Which...I mean...this thread is in the Breaking News section. So it's actually about this ONE story and not some broad notion about racism. But like, stop picking apart one story man! We should just believe everything at all times because racism man! It doesn't matter if it's true or not, the ends justifies the means man!

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