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Trump deserves credit for North-South Korea summit, experts say

Yes, he does deserve credit and if he can bring South and North Korea to some sort of agreement, he does deserve a Peace prize. As long as people will now concede that North Korea NOT having nuclear weapons is now not the objective.
 
MrMike said:
I'm sort of noticing this trend from them as well. If it were Obama doing this (pressure to NK, China, etc.) the Left would be absolutely declaring Barack was the 2nd coming of Christ.

Sort of weird how the Left seems to prefer that people and countries suffer and stay in strife rather than give someone they don't like credit for working to end it.
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If President Obama had attempted to engage the North.....Loud mouth Right Wingers would have called him an "appeaser"
 
Saladin4 said:
trump was no where to be found at the meetings....trump knows little of the issues , he just wants to claim credit, and blame Obama..The North and South would do well to exclude him
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you know trump meets with kim next month right? to end the war?

remember when obama met kim to end the war? lol me neither
 
Cardinal said:
There's an ironic twist to all of this, related to the decoupling concept your post brings up. The United States asked, "Do we want to lose Los Angeles more than we want to lose Seoul?" leading to the decoupling we're now witnessing between South Korea and the US, causing SK to take a more active role in pursuing peace talks (along with China who understandably didn't want to see millions of radioactive refugees flee into their borders).
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Yes, that is definitely a part of it. We are not seen as being as reliable a protector as we were before we could be directly threatened.

NK will demand that US forces leave the Korean peninsula before it denuclearizes, thus blowing up any potential deal.

Mark my words
 
biglawnmower said:
trump: helps end the war
left wing: outraged
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You ignored my point.

We are not dictating the terms of any supposed peace, North Korea still has nukes, and we are on the sidelines as China, South Korea and North Korea come to an agreement without us.
 
biglawnmower said:
obama caused the arab spring, traded terrorists for a traitor, and caused the nation to divide. now the left wing is furious that trump is ending the korean war.

lol
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The Koreas are still at war. Trump did not end anything
 
sangha said:
Yes, that is definitely a part of it. We are not seen as being as reliable a protector as we were before we could be directly threatened.

NK will demand that US forces leave the Korean peninsula before it denuclearizes, thus blowing up any potential deal.

Mark my words
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Quite a few in the South want the US Military to leave...They have had enough of foreign troops on their soil
 
sangha said:
Yes, that is definitely a part of it. We are not seen as being as reliable a protector as we were before we could be directly threatened.

NK will demand that US forces leave the Korean peninsula before it denuclearizes, thus blowing up any potential deal.

Mark my words
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I agree. When we casually posited that millions of South Koreans lives' were forfeit, we lost all authority as an ally. We've sidelined ourselves as a good-will participant in the process.
 
Moot said:
I don't agree with his method...but I think Trump does deserve some credit for this remarkable turn of events.

But it's not over yet, so we'll have to wait and see how it all plays out in the end.
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Meeting isn't an accomplishment. What they decide, if anything, is the only important outcome. As of now, it's only theatre.
 
Saladin4 said:
The North and South had a historic meeting yesterday...without trump....Expect more without trump....
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Trump put the conditions in place for the meeting to happen. It wouldn't have happened without his actions.

He doesn't need to be there.
 
Cardinal said:
I agree. When we casually posited that millions of South Koreans lives' were forfeit, we lost all authority as an ally. We've sidelined ourselves as a good-will participant in the process.
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Yes, Trumps talk of attacking NK let the SKs know he does not give a damn about SK lives. Not a great way to get the SKs to believe we have their back.

And this is the type of things Trump never even thinks about, which is why he might very well agree to withdraw our military from SK which would be a disaster for us and SK
 
Cardinal said:
I'm not a hundred percent clear on whether South Korea engaging North Korea in talks qualifies as "adventurism," but regardless I see little political benefit to Trump in interfering with those talks when he's able to take credit for de-escalation of the situation.
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I think it's called "brinkmanship". Trump's threats put S. Korea's leader on edge and caused him to reconsider negotiating peace with N. Korea.
 
biff_poindexter said:
Yes, he does deserve credit and if he can bring South and North Korea to some sort of agreement, he does deserve a Peace prize. As long as people will now concede that North Korea NOT having nuclear weapons is now not the objective.
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What can they possibly agree to? NK: We will stop making nukes if you throw the U.S. bases out of SK.

Both agree to "de-nuclear" the region, which means U.S. nukes can't come into the region.
 
Moot said:
I think it's called "brinkmanship". Trump's threats put S. Korea's leader on edge and caused him to reconsider negotiating peace with N. Korea.
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Brinkmanship implies the existence of a strategy. Trump did not approach this situation with any coherent policy.
 
The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to United States President Barack Obama!
For........ nothing!

Obama should be packing that Nobel peace prize up and send it President Trump. He has done much more to bring peace then Obama ever did.

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Unitedwestand13 said:
You ignored my point.

We are not dictating the terms of any supposed peace, North Korea still has nukes, and we are on the sidelines as China, South Korea and North Korea come to an agreement without us.
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*cough cough*

who do you think is putting pressure on all of them (including China)?
 
Common Sense 1 said:
The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to United States President Barack Obama!
For........ nothing!

Obama should be packing that Nobel peace prize up and send it President Trump. He has done much more to bring peace then Obama ever did.

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Well, he is half-black and did vote "present" alot as a senator.. so there is that?
 
sangha said:
Yes, Trumps talk of attacking NK let the SKs know he does not give a damn about SK lives. Not a great way to get the SKs to believe we have their back.

And this is the type of things Trump never even thinks about, which is why he might very well agree to withdraw our military from SK which would be a disaster for us and SK
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Combined with the decision to exit TPSEP, because of the way we've approached this issue (again, and this can't be stressed enough, the US did not have a representative at the Korea peace talks) the entire region is preparing for a post-USA Asia.
 
MTAtech said:
What can they possibly agree to? NK: We will stop making nukes if you throw the U.S. bases out of SK.

Both agree to "de-nuclear" the region, which means U.S. nukes can't come into the region.
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There will be no agreement that involves NK giving up its nukes. In my opinion, the fact that SK and NK had a sit down meeting will be enough for Trump to claim victory over. It will be the first sit down meeting of this magnitude between the two -- and Trump can take credit.
 
I am opening the door to giving Trump credit.

I am also remembering history -- remembering how many times North Korea has made empty promises. So let's see if progress actually gets made toward denuclearization. Or if this is ends up just being a stall while North Korea waits for a new U.S. president.
 
Cardinal said:
Combined with the decision to exit TPSEP, because of the way we've approached this issue (again, and this can't be stressed enough, the US did not have a representative at the Korea peace talks) the entire region is preparing for a post-USA Asia.
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^^ that too
 
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