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Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump[W:895]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Atomic Kid said:
So you don't think that significant damage is being done to the relationship of trust between the DOJ, US Intelligence agencies and Congressional oversight committee in that classified information, or important information to ongoing investigations will be handled in a responsible nonpartisan manner?I think Devin has all but destroyed those relationships. And all in the name of partisan politics and that will have ominous complications for this country further on the road.
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If what the OIG and others are saying is true, the intelligence community and FBI already breached that trust. Particularly Comey, McCabe, Clapper, and Brennan who have all been less than truthful under oath or before Congress. This entire mess can be laid at the feet of partisan politics, there never should have been a FISA warrant without verified intelligence.
 
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1. Nunes has never handled classified information in an irresponsible manner.
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Oh really? Go look at the letter the DOJ wrote to him before releasing of his memo. If I have to explain to you what a relationship of trust is, then I don't think you would understand anyway. Nunes is a beady eyed snake.
 
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Atomic Kid said:
It is when you lie about it and if you are conducting foreign policy by discussing the circumvention or repeal of sanctions that were imposed by the administration still in office without first gaining authorization by that administration to be able to do so.
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Unless they were discussing the commission of an actual crime, which they weren't, it wasn't a crime
 
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Lerxst said:
And in other news, Donald Trump claims he's a stable genius. Back to you Mycroft.
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As usual, the partisan Leftists start slinging mud.
 
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Mycroft said:
This morning, Rep. Nunes was interviewed by Maria Bartiromo of Fox News. He made a statement about what was found in the electronic communications document he was finally able to get from the FBI that is simply stunning.

Listen for yourself:

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Too bad the TDS crowd is too blood thirsty to appreciate the scam they are part of!
 
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Mycroft said:
This morning, Rep. Nunes was interviewed by Maria Bartiromo of Fox News. He made a statement about what was found in the electronic communications document he was finally able to get from the FBI that is simply stunning.
Listen for yourself:]
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You found it "stunning", but you didnt' quote what you found stunning, or what was so important that we watch an 8 minute video.

Why didn't you quote the important bombshells? Because there are none.
why didn't you post which precise parts "stunned'' you, so we can mock you?

Nunes said he has no idea WTF happened, but he continues to say things like "this is really serious stuff", but then doesn't' say why/how/what. He's doing what he always does, takes garbage and puts a bow around it, and you think it's the best present ever.

"Stunned!" I tell ya.
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
it would have been preferable if the OP had Included the transcript of the video, specically the sections of the video he wants to identify as being the important portion of the video.
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The video isn't that long. Just watch it.

But hey...if you just cannot bring yourself to do that, another member posted and quoted a link to a Fox News article that also includes the video.

In any case, I consider the entire interview to be important.

You can decide for yourself, but don't cry at me.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
If what the OIG and others are saying is true, the intelligence community and FBI already breached that trust. Particularly Comey, McCabe, Clapper, and Brennan who have all been less than truthful under oath or before Congress. This entire mess can be laid at the feet of partisan politics, there never should have been a FISA warrant without verified intelligence.
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How do you know what the 'verified' intelligence was for the FISA warrant? 'Official intelligence'. LOL! Oh well I guess then that 'unofficial' intelligence, tips or informants don't count then. Also if Comey's memos proved anything it is that they are completely consistent with his all his previous statements and testimony.
 
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The video isn't that long. Just watch it.
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It's a complete waste of one's time.
 
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Khayembii Communique said:
Nobody's heads are exploding because Nunes has been saying the exact same bs for months now. There is nothing new stated here. His original claim was that the FISA warrant was based on the dossier alone.
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Nunes has had access to the electronic communications document for only days. It's impossible for him to have been "saying the exact same bs for months now".

Hyperbole is a losing tactic, you know.
 
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Atomic Kid said:
How do you know what the 'verified' intelligence was for the FISA warrant? 'Official intelligence'. LOL! Oh well I guess then that 'unofficial' intelligence, tips or informants don't count then. Also if Comey's memos proved anything it is that they are completely consistent with his all his previous statements and testimony.
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The dossier was not a product of US intelligence agencies. Its kind of a given.
 
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Mycroft said:
The video isn't that long. Just watch it.

But hey...if you just cannot bring yourself to do that, another member posted and quoted a link to a Fox News article that also includes the video.

In any case, I consider the entire interview to be important.

You can decide for yourself, but don't cry at me.
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I've noticed that whenever people ask you to back up your claims or provide specifics and you're unable to, that's when you start accusing people of "crying."
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
The bolded is simply more evidence that you have absolutely zero interest in honest disucssion or rational discourse.

Wow.
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I'm being entirely honest and rational. Seems you are the one avoiding discussion.
 
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cuban smokes said:
My God; Nunes is such a ***** ......... and a liar ...........
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What did he lie about?
 
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Barnacle said:
And the 2 founders of Fusion GPS - up to their eyeballs in that *** - released an opinion piece in the NYT yesterday trying to shift investigation away from them and hoping to focus the pathetic left on a unicorn hunt:

"Put aside Russian collusion for a moment. Press pause on possible presidential obstruction of justice. Forget Stormy Daniels. The most significant recent development involving the president may be that the special counsel, Robert Mueller, has subpoenaed Trump Organization business records as part of his inquiry into Russian interference in the presidential election.

.......
Also, Trump has/had several lawyers. What makes Peter Fritsch and Glenn R. Simpson think that Cohen had all of Trump's legal records?!?

Nothing, except trying to shift focus from them to a unicorn and keep the pathetic left on that never-ending "impeach" trail ...
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Glenn R. Simpson has been watching this mess unfold longer than you have. Your slant on his POV and motives indicate you are less aware than Simpson
or even I am as to what has happened and is happening. Unless one has eyes and ears inside the Trump Org., the Kremlin, or the Mueller or SDNY investigations,
any observer/analyst is up against similar limitations....watching what they've said and done and how they have interacted with each other.

Inside the link between the Russian lawyer who met Donald Trump Jr ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...and-the-trump-dossier/?utm_term=.358126521ee6
Jul 11, 2017 - Prevezon is owned by Russian businessman Denis Katsyv. His father, Pyotr Katsyv, was vice premier and minister of transport of Moscow region from 2004 to 2012. Katsyv's deputy minister was Alexander Mitusov, Veselnitskaya's ex husband. Fusion GPS began its separate work on the Trump-Russia ...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Katsyv
Denis Katsyv is a Ukrainian-Jewish businessman based in Moscow and owner of Prevezon Holdings Limited. He was linked in a civil-assets case to money laundering through real estate investments in the United States, in violation of the Magnitsky Act of 2012; the case was settled in 2017 with the United States Justice Department by Prevezon agreeing to pay $5.9 million in fines.

Katsyv has been represented by attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya, who met with Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn R. Simpson and Donald Trump Jr in the summer of 2016, during the U.S. presidential campaign of the latter's father, then-nominee Donald Trump.

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Katsyv is the son of Pyotr Katsyv, a former vice governor and transportation minister of the Moscow region. He was educated and took advantage of business opportunities as Russia began to privatize.

The son became a shareholder of Cyprus-based Prevezon Holdings Ltd. shortly after it received mysterious cash payments in 2008 from Moldova.[1]

In May 2017, Prezevon settled a case brought by the U.S Department of Justice for $5.9 million in fines. It was related to Russian tax fraud and money laundering originally uncovered by the late Russian lawyer and auditor Sergei Magnitsky. Katsyv was represented by attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya [2][3] and law firm BakerHostetler in cooperation with research firm Fusion GPS, which was concurrently assembling opposition research against candidate Trump[4]. ..
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Former FBI director Louis Freeh represented Prevezon, firm at center ...
Former FBI director Louis Freeh represented Prevezon, firm at center of money-laundering probe - Business Insider

Nov 16, 2017 - Prevezon is also represented by Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who met with top Trump campaign officials in June 2016 at Trump Tower. ... a company called AFI Europe, which Prevezon says froze a payment of more than $3 million as part of the US litigation against the Russian-owned firm.
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Do you expect Trump "adjusted" this convict's prison sentence out of the goodness of his (Trump's) heart?

Freed kosher tycoon Sholom Rubashkin returns home to heros ...
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.pr...shkin-returns-home-to-heros-welcome-1.5629344
Dec 21, 2017 - Hours after U.S. President Donald Trump commuted his prison sentence, Sholom Rubashkin returned to New York and a heros welcome from the local ultra-Orthodox community on ... The epicenter of the celebrations was 770 Eastern Parkway, headquarters of the worldwide Chabad movement. Rubashkin ...
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OpportunityCost said:
The dossier was not a product of US intelligence agencies. Its kind of a given.
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it was compiled by a former member of MI6, one of Britain's intelligence agencies that often collaborate with american intelligence agencies.
 
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Mycroft said:
I'm being entirely honest and rational. Seems you are the one avoiding discussion.
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LOL! Just by making that assertion, you've demonstrated what I stated.
 
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Mycroft said:
What did he lie about?
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Well, there's the claim that the FISA was based entirely on the dossier. There was also that stunt last year where he got information from the White House, publicly claimed that there was explosive new information and that he needed to inform the White House on, then returned to the White House.
 
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Mycroft said:
I'm being entirely honest and rational. Seems you are the one avoiding discussion.
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Honesty and rationality have never been attributes your posts have espoused.

As first and foremost evidenced by your birtherrism.
 
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Mach said:
You found it "stunning", but you didnt' quote what you found stunning, or what was so important that we watch an 8 minute video.

Why didn't you quote the important bombshells? Because there are none.
why didn't you post which precise parts "stunned'' you, so we can mock you?

Nunes said he has no idea WTF happened, but he continues to say things like "this is really serious stuff", but then doesn't' say why/how/what. He's doing what he always does, takes garbage and puts a bow around it, and you think it's the best present ever.

"Stunned!" I tell ya.
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His whole interview is important. His statement about what was found in the electronic communications document is stunning.

I told you to listen for yourself.

Quit being lazy.
 
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apdst said:
Unless they were discussing the commission of an actual crime, which they weren't, it wasn't a crime
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Guess you never heard of the Logan Act then.
 
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Cardinal said:
I've noticed that whenever people ask you to back up your claims or provide specifics and you're unable to, that's when you start accusing people of "crying."
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It's all in the video.

I won't watch it and then tell you what's in it.

Watch it yourself.

Don't be lazy.

And don't cry.
 
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Mycroft said:
His whole interview is important. His statement about what was found in the electronic communications document is stunning.

I told you to listen for yourself.

Quit being lazy.
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What was found in the electronic communication?
 
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Mycroft said:
It's all in the video.

I won't watch it and then tell you what's in it.

Watch it yourself.

Don't be lazy.

And don't cry.
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You didn't watch the video, did you.
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! Just by making that assertion, you've demonstrated what I stated.
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I don't think you know what honesty and rationality are. Be that as it may, discuss or be dismissed. Your choice.
 
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