Mueller: Paul Manafort may have been the Trump campaign's 'back channel' to Russia

Chomsky said:

My guy! :thumbs:

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Mach said:

It read to me like Manafort's defense was arguing that Mueller went too far outside his investigation scope by pursuing Manafort on his Ukraine dealings. Mueller's team came back saying they suspected Paul was serving as a back channel between the campaign and Russia, and pursued investigation based on that suspicion, along with his many financial and business ties to Russians and Russian interests.

Not sure it moved that puck forward on the board, or was just restating what we already all suspected about Manafort's role during the campaign.

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Fletch said:

Yes, Flynn was going to flip. Papadouchbag was going to flip and wear a wire. Manafort was going to flip. Now Cohen is going to join that long line of people who are going to flip on Trump and avenge the liberal loss in 2016.

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PoliSciXtina said:

I am for justice- and I trust in our justice system. Hillary was investigated for years. YEARS. She was not charged with a crime. Take some prune juice and let it go. That's what I meant. Even if she was a criminal and locked up, that does not negate Trump's behavior. You bring up Hillary as if all of trumps issues will go away. You don't have another argument other than "well what about this?" That's truly pathetic. And no I'm not a liberal even though you keep insisting that I am. I've made that clear on this board in the short time that I have been here, so I would appreciate you stop judging other posters and making yourself look like a fool.


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PoliSciXtina said:

Do you even read? It was the House GOP that decided to shut down the investigation preliminarily and the democrats were not happy about it, therefore it was NOT a bipartisan effort. (What is "by-partisan")? Please see this article from The Hill that literally has "House GOP" in the headline, and this:

"The announcement is unlikely to herald any bipartisan conclusion to the central questions in an investigation that for more than a year has been mired in investigatory offshoots, leaks and bitter fighting between committee members.

The top Democrat on the panel, Rep. Adam Schiff (Calif.), in a blistering statement called the end of the probe a "tragic milestone" and a "capitulation to the executive branch."

"By ending its oversight role in the only authorized investigation in the House, the Majority has placed the interests of protecting the President over protecting the country, and history will judge its actions harshly," Schiff wrote

Schiff in his statement emphatically rejected the GOP's assertion that the Russians did not seek to help Trump's campaign, saying the evidence "is clear and overwhelming that the Intelligence Community Assessment was correct."

"If the Russians do have leverage over the President of the United States, the Majority has simply decided it would rather not know," he said."


As you can hopefully read, it's anything BUT bipartisan. Nice try, though. If it were a bipartisan conclusion, I would be inclined to trust it. Just The GOP? Not so much.

House GOP ending Russia probe, says no collusion found | TheHill




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Born Free said:

What don't you get. No collusion was found. Period. And the Dems involved with the investigation had no evidence to keep the investigation to continue, zip zero. Of course you want this phony investigation to go on forever. Pathic

Everything you quoted about what Schiff said had nothing to do with collusion. He had not one shred of evidence of collusion. And don't forget the senate had its own bipartisan investigation and again NO evidence of collusion was found.

And after a year of Mueller with his team of lawyers has not found any evidence of collusion. All his indictments had nothing to do with Trump and his campaign.

Give it up.

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Born Free said:

What don't you get. No collusion was found. Period. And the Dems involved with the investigation had no evidence to keep the investigation to continue, zip zero. Of course you want this phony investigation to go on forever. Pathic

Everything you quoted about what Schiff said had nothing to do with collusion. He had not one shred of evidence of collusion. And don't forget the senate had its own bipartisan investigation and again NO evidence of collusion was found.

And after a year of Mueller with his team of lawyers has not found any evidence of collusion. All his indictments had nothing to do with Trump and his campaign.

Give it up.

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PoliSciXtina said:

I'll give it up once you give up going after "crooked" Hillary, who was cleared. I'll bet that will never happen because that's the only argument you have to defend Trump. Until then, I will continue to post facts and you can continue to claim nonsense about the "by-lateral" investigation as you wish.


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Born Free said:

Sorry she is not cleared, there are investigations going on now from uranium 1 all the way up to the latest Russia phony dossier. Under Obama's DOJ and the FBI gave her a pass, thus all her activities are now back under investigation, including the now famous phony Russia dossier.





















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JANFU said:

Mueller: Paul Manafort may have been Trump campaign 'back channel' to Russia - Business Insider



Now it just starts to come out. I am sure when the Felonies are submitted to the courts, people are going to be more than surprised

Recent allegations have Cohen meeting with Russians in Prague after Mantafort left the campaign.

I stated that Mueller would lay more charges by NLT than mid Jun so as not to be seen as interfering in the 18 elections.

I think Cohen when he sees the charges, he will flip on Trump in a New York minute, parts or all of the case will revert to Mueller.

I expect more Felonies and some of these people will be just as surprised as the rest of us

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JANFU said:

Mueller: Paul Manafort may have been Trump campaign 'back channel' to Russia - Business Insider



Now it just starts to come out. I am sure when the Felonies are submitted to the courts, people are going to be more than surprised

Recent allegations have Cohen meeting with Russians in Prague after Mantafort left the campaign.

I stated that Mueller would lay more charges by NLT than mid Jun so as not to be seen as interfering in the 18 elections.

I think Cohen when he sees the charges, he will flip on Trump in a New York minute, parts or all of the case will revert to Mueller.

I expect more Felonies and some of these people will be just as surprised as the rest of us

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jmotivator said:

HA!! That statement is an argument made by the Mueller camp to defend their decision to raid Manafort, it is not a conclusion from the evidence collected, it is a suspicion used to justify a target.

We already know what Mueller found regarding Manafort because the charges have already been filed.

Oh you silly people.

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PoliSciXtina said:

But she has been cleared. Please provide a link proving she's still under investigation, or move on. Once Trump is cleared of wrongdoing, I'll gladly join you and scream "trump is innocent!" I will, believe it or not. I don't know what Mueller will write in his report. No one knows. I wish everyone would stop acting like they know. It seems like manafort was up to shady business, and his indictments against him don't make him look anymore innocent. But that's just speculation based on the indictments I read on him. Until mueller wraps up the investigation, and concludes it, it's silly to claim anything. I trust the criminal justice system in this country. It seems you do not. If an investigation is re-opened into Hillary, then I will question her again until she is either charged or cleared once again. Until then, you are just claiming nonsense because you are angry and believe she truly is a criminal. Facts:

1. Trump still remains under investigation.
2. Hillary is not currently under investigation. She was never charged with a crime.

If these two facts change, I will acknowledge it. Until then, there is no debating the facts.


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Media_Truth said:

Trump will eventually be charged with many crimes - money laundering, tax evasion, obstruction of justice, etc. I don't think most of this will come out, until the Republican Primary. That way, their Party will save face, and somebody else will win the nomination.

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