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German town braces for neo-Nazi concert on Hitler's birthday

If you are triggered by a general statement about we, the collective, should not be tolerating any violent extremists, I don't know what else to say.
My statement was not pointed at you. And please don't you dare lecture me about petty and transparent divisive bull**** on this forum.

Great. Then let's just agree that violent extremism is bad in all its forms and that the gradual reacceptance of racism needs to be killed.
 
Great. Then let's just agree that violent extremism is bad in all its forms and that the gradual reacceptance of racism needs to be killed.

You could have just agreed before, ya know.
 
That would be a simpleton's view of the situation. The current American president and Brexit are effects of the problem to which I alluded, not the causes, although they do contribute to it. White nationalism is most of the problem. I think it was triggered by immigration in Europe. In the US, it was the first black president. Populism found a resurgence on both continents when the global economy collapsed in 2008; and sensing a scarcity of resources, people wanted to close themselves off to the world because their fear overwhelmed their rationality. Finally, liberalism has been, in my opinion, a process of two steps forward and one step backward for centuries. We're in a backward step now, a natural correction. The European refugee situation, the first black American president, the Great Recession, and liberalism's natural ebb and flow created the perfect environment for Nazi emboldenment like the OP detailed. It's allowed far right groups to crawl out of the sewers and advocate for bygone days based on imagined racial superiority and constructed national identity. I have no doubt that forward progress will begin again sometime in the next decade or so, but questions like yours remind me how deep these artificial divisions have become.

I think one issue that you didn't mention and one of the largest contributors to the rise of the far right is the political correctness and SJW movements. When you silence debate over issues that you may feel taboo gives them an easy way to promote their stances because they seem to be the only ones addressing the issue. If no one is having an open and honest debate on certain issues because it is not politically palatable then someone is going to take advantage of it. A good example of this is Dylan Roof, because we were unable to have a legitimate discusision on issues of race his mind was exposed to extremist views on it which drove him to murder those people in that church. Trump was elected because he was able to capitalize on the issues of immigration and Muslim extremism that no other politician in America would touch, had someone more moderate touched on these issues earlier rather than avoid it then Trump would not have gained the amount of support he had.
 
Who said anything about limiting it to this thread, that would be stupid. See, your post makes no sense because you made up something that wasn't there.

Then let me dumb it down for you. The reemergence of far right racist groups like the Nazis is a problem. I didn't say it was the current president's fault. I would find you a slightly more credible poster if you hadn't said it was President Obama's fault. Maybe put a little thought into a thread (some thread, any thread at all) rather than just reflexively ranting about the left.
 
What a crock of crap. This is the sort of **** that guarantees the idiots will always be heard by somebody.
Starting with phrases like, "Obama fanning the flames of racism..." That's complete bull**** and using it to justify the rising Nazi voice betrays the racism of whoever wrote it.

Oh no, not BS. He was good at it too. Light his match, start his fire, walk away and watch it burn. The worst President in decades, maybe centuries, for race relations.
 
You are another one that fails to see the difference between nationalist and supremacist. No matter what the race, nationalist and supremacist can belong to any race.

Blacks display the segregationalist tendencies of nationalist on a smaller scale, they choose to live in neighborhoods with their own kind, watch BET and have all kinds of organizations that are only open to blacks, NAACP, the negro college fund, etc...

If whites so chose to self segregate, they would be called "evil supremacist".

Are you OK with black nationalism?

I didn't say any of that.
I said that when it's white nationalism it pretty much takes one of two forms, the Klan or the Nazis.
 
That is the sloppiest understanding of geographical racial divisions I have ever read. White Americans decided where each race would live and which schools they would attend. They invented self segregation. You should also stop accusing us of not understanding the difference between nationalism and supremacy, especially when I've carefully explained to you that I'm talkimg about white nationalism.

White Americans tell every other race where they can live and go to school, yet I have a sloppy understanding of racial division? Thanks for the chuckle.
 
I think one issue that you didn't mention and one of the largest contributors to the rise of the far right is the political correctness and SJW movements. When you silence debate over issues that you may feel taboo gives them an easy way to promote their stances because they seem to be the only ones addressing the issue. If no one is having an open and honest debate on certain issues because it is not politically palatable then someone is going to take advantage of it. A good example of this is Dylan Roof, because we were unable to have a legitimate discusision on issues of race his mind was exposed to extremist views on it which drove him to murder those people in that church. Trump was elected because he was able to capitalize on the issues of immigration and Muslim extremism that no other politician in America would touch, had someone more moderate touched on these issues earlier rather than avoid it then Trump would not have gained the amount of support he had.

I see your point. We do run a risk when we avoid tough conversations for the sake of politeness. I think that's a remnant of our Protestant foundations. It's why we invented "swear words" when other languages don't even have a concept of them. Even in a non-PC environment, though, racists shouldn't be part of the conversation and shouldn't have a seat at the table. That might cause them to fume over time, but I would rather they meet secretly behind closed doors than march down our streets.
 
Oh no, not BS. He was good at it too. Light his match, start his fire, walk away and watch it burn. The worst President in decades, maybe centuries, for race relations.

More bull****.
I'll tell you why he was bad for race relations for people like you- he was a black man in the white house. That's why he was bad for race relations, with people like you.
 
You should feel embarrassed for lying.

There is a difference between a lie and a mistake, so I am going to go ahead and reject your labeling of me as a liar. I will also apologize to you because I did unintentionally misrepresent what you said. I didn't mean to do that.
 
More bull****.
I'll tell you why he was bad for race relations for people like you- he was a black man in the white house. That's why he was bad for race relations, with people like you.

Jeez, you can't even get his make up right. Half white, half black. He's biracial.
 
How about it causes wars, like World War I, World War II, Vietnam War, the Iraq War, etc.

I remember in the lead up to the Iraq War, a bunch of people were mindlessly supporting the war and saying no should question the war, because that would be ''unpatriotic''. How did that work out? All the European countries in World War I used nationalism as an excuse to slaughter each other for 4 years, how did that work out? German nationalism was the major driver of World War II, we will know that ended poorly.

And globalism just ushers in an era of world peace?
 
White Americans tell every other race where they can live and go to school, yet I have a sloppy understanding of racial division? Thanks for the chuckle.

Mmhmm. Are you unaware of the racial, political, and socioeconomical history of this country? The entire society is built around race. I know some people like to pretend that we live in a post-racial world, but a group of people does not live in one of the most racist cultures ever conceived for more than 300 years and then just snap out of it in the following fifty years. Where we live, how we live, the education we receive, what we earn, and our general placement in society are all influenced by our race in the US.
 
And globalism just ushers in an era of world peace?

Was there a war caused by globalism? Which war would that be? All those wars I mentioned were caused, all or in part, by nationalism.
 
Jeez, you can't even get his make up right. Half white, half black. He's biracial.

Don't be an ass. Brown skin, nose, lips, African father, in America that makes you black.
Hell, for all you know there was a black branch on your own family tree.
 
More bull****.
I'll tell you why he was bad for race relations for people like you- he was a black man in the white house. That's why he was bad for race relations, with people like you.

Exactly one of my points for why Nazis are walking around in broad daylight again. President Obama was guilty of presidenting while black.
 
Mmhmm. Are you unaware of the racial, political, and socioeconomical history of this country? The entire society is built around race. I know some people like to pretend that we live in a post-racial world, but a group of people does not live in one of the most racist cultures ever conceived for more than 300 years and then just snap out of it in the following fifty years. Where we live, how we live, the education we receive, what we earn, and our general placement in society are all influenced by our race in the US.

Not your own acheivments? Just that evil white man huhh? Racism wont die as long as people beat that drum.

Minorities demand equality on one hand, then create things like BLM, BET, united negro college fund, the NAACP, the black caucus and on the list grows.
 
Then let me dumb it down for you. The reemergence of far right racist groups like the Nazis is a problem. I didn't say it was the current president's fault.

No, you didn't have to. You say it every other post, truth be damned.
I would find you a slightly more credible poster if you hadn't said it was President Obama's fault. Maybe put a little thought into a thread (some thread, any thread at all) rather than just reflexively ranting about the left.
Not that you aren't credible, I'm sure you think your opinions are absolute facts. But the rainbows shooting out of our asses type thinks you've put in this thread are really out there. The libs dreams of utopia... all mankind sharing and living as equals, no differences, no individuals... just one.
 
For real, either side has a solid claim, but people love to call him "America's first black POTUS"

Sorry folks, we may one day have a black POTUS but we still have not.

Are you pretending that in the US Obama could be considered white? Is 'bi-racial' now a tick-box on a census form or driver's license or job application?
Don't bull**** the troops. Obama's black. Ask anyone.
 
Have you bothered to look at the racial makeup in this country VS many others? Where is one of these WN enclaves?

Uh, pick any one of a thousand southern cities. Pick a suburb in the midwest. Pick almost any county in a plains state. Visit the border towns of the southwest. Review the publicly shared racist opinions surrounding immigration policy. Read a forum thread about the Mexico wall. Watch a video of one of the president's rallies. Don't pretend that racial nationalism is not as prevalent and as unashamedly public as it has been in decades if you want to be taken seriously.
 
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