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FDA committee recommends first CBD product

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https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-committee-recommends-first-cbd-oil-product-n867511

Cannabidiol - CBD for shorrt — is a cannabis derivative and the approval would be limited to treating seizures caused by Lennox-Gastaut syndrome (LGS) and Dravet syndrome in patients aged 2 and older.

“Epidiolex represents hope for the many individuals living with intractable seizures and rare epilepsies, who every day face incredible challenges and disabling seizures, and live with the continual risk of serious injury and death,” said Philip Gattone, president and CEO of the Epilepsy Foundation.
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Though derived from the marijuana plant (Cannabis sativa), the purified CBD contains none of the psychoactive tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) associated with using the plant in various forms to get 'stoned.' See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)

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JacksinPA said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-committee-recommends-first-cbd-oil-product-n867511

Cannabidiol - CBD for shorrt — is a cannabis derivative and the approval would be limited to treating seizures caused by Lennox-Gastaut syndrome (LGS) and Dravet syndrome in patients aged 2 and older.

“Epidiolex represents hope for the many individuals living with intractable seizures and rare epilepsies, who every day face incredible challenges and disabling seizures, and live with the continual risk of serious injury and death,” said Philip Gattone, president and CEO of the Epilepsy Foundation.
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Though derived from the marijuana plant (Cannabis sativa), the purified CBD contains none of the psychoactive tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) associated with using the plant in various forms to get 'stoned.' See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)
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And now it'll be ridiculously expensive, unfortunately.
 
The article states CDBs without THC work, but they don't know how.

To me, that's scary.
 
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And now it'll be ridiculously expensive, unfortunately.
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The profit motive + the high cost of extracting the pure CBD from the 40+ phytochemicals in weed makes that almost inevitable. And I'm sure they had to spend a lot of money on clinical testing & FDA paperwork to get this revolutionary new drug approved.
 
Samhain said:
The article states CDBs without THC work, but they don't know how.

To me, that's scary.
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The human brain & how it interacts with psychoactive chemicals is scary stuff.
 
In weed-wild California, and presumably in other area where recreational use is legal, they sell plenty of CBD-only products already. Pricing is comparable, though apparently the effective dosage for CBD is considerably lower than THC.

I've seen it packaged as topical creams and edibles (liquid and gummies.)
 
WillyPete said:
In weed-wild California, and presumably in other area where recreational use is legal, they sell plenty of CBD-only products already. Pricing is comparable, though apparently the effective dosage for CBD is considerably lower than THC.

I've seen it packaged as topical creams and edibles (liquid and gummies.)
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I don't think it has any recreational use other than hype.
 
JacksinPA said:
The profit motive + the high cost of extracting the pure CBD from the 40+ phytochemicals in weed makes that almost inevitable. And I'm sure they had to spend a lot of money on clinical testing & FDA paperwork to get this revolutionary new drug approved.
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We'll see if it works in that form.

They have determined that the "medicine" is a synergy between the compounds present.

So individual molecules, THC, CBD, are less effective alone than they are in cohort with others.

It'LLC be nice if it works, but they already have strains with very little THC, and the equipment used to extract cannabinoids using C02, which is how they make all those pens, is more than specific enough to provide acceptably safe medicine without running it through the profit machine with the medical gate keepers. (They are probably using CO2 extraction with fractionation attachments to make the pharmaceutical version. It is the most common extraction method, most specific.)

And considering the pharmaceutical industry has been lobbying to keep cannabis on schedule 1 for decades, I don't believe they should he able to profit from it now.
 
JacksinPA said:
The profit motive + the high cost of extracting the pure CBD from the 40+ phytochemicals in weed makes that almost inevitable. And I'm sure they had to spend a lot of money on clinical testing & FDA paperwork to get this revolutionary new drug approved.
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Did you know that the federal government owns the patent for CBD as medicine while simultaneously keeping cannabis in schedule one? Which means no accepted medical use.
 
JacksinPA said:
I don't think it has any recreational use other than hype.
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Yeah well, turns out they don't mind selling it anyhow, and medical users are often very knowledgeable about what they want.

Being unfamiliar, I asked about the buzz, and the sales person suggested a CBD-infused bottled water ($12) would be invigorating and refresh the mind. That's a pass for me.

I got some topical cream (~$60 for I believe 50mg CBD in a roll-on deodorant looking thing) for the girlfriend to see if it would help with joint pain, and she wasn't impressed.

Obviously rubbing it on your skin is going to be different from eating it.
 
Just legalize it already. it's gods gift to man, along with yeast (they make alcohol)
 
Samhain said:
The article states CDBs without THC work, but they don't know how.

To me, that's scary.
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They sell medical strains that are high in CDBs and low in THC so users can ingest or smoke it without getting really high
 
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Did you know that the federal government owns the patent for CBD as medicine while simultaneously keeping cannabis in schedule one? Which means no accepted medical use.
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The hemp it's derived from is very low THC.
 
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And now it'll be ridiculously expensive, unfortunately.
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I don't know, CBD stuff here isn't all that expensive. Heck, we even have dog treats with CBD, lol.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol

Overview Information
Cannabidiol is a chemical in the Cannabis sativa plant, also known as marijuana. Over 80 chemicals, known as cannabinoids, have been identified in the Cannabis sativa plant. While delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is the major active ingredient, cannabidiol makes up about 40% of cannabis extracts and has been studied for many different uses. According to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), because cannabidiol has been studied as a new drug, products containing cannabidiol are not defined as dietary supplements. But there are still products labeled as dietary supplements on the market that contain cannabidiol.

People take cannabidiol by mouth for anxiety, bipolar disorder, a muscle disorder called dystonia, epilepsy, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson’s disease, and schizophrenia.

People inhale cannabidiol to help quit smoking.

A prescription-only nasal spray (Sativex, GW Pharmaceuticals) containing both THC and cannabidiol is used for pain and muscle-tightness in people with multiple sclerosis in over 25 countries outside of the United States.

How does it work?
Cannabidiol has antipsychotic effects. The exact cause for these effects is not clear. But cannabidiol seems to prevent the breakdown of a chemical in the brain that affects pain, mood, and mental function. Preventing the breakdown of this chemical and increasing its levels in the blood seems to reduce psychotic symptoms associated with conditions such as schizophrenia. Cannabidiol might also block some of the psychoactive effects of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). Also, cannabidiol seems to reduce pain and anxiety.
 
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Samhain said:
The article states CDBs without THC work, but they don't know how.

To me, that's scary.
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That is more common than you might think with pharmaceuticals. Often the eventual use of a drug is determined in a blind statistical analysis, and the use has nothing to do with the intended use of the drug during development.

Viagra was a heart medicine until the clinical trials completed.
 
Samhain said:
I get that it works, and its fantastic to alleviate painful ailments, but to have no idea how it actually works means we also don't know what else it does.
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Do we know how any drugs actually work in our bodies? Do we even research drugs prescribed by doctors? [I actually do and may have saved my Wife's life when she was taking a blood pressure medication that was wrong for her]

If you listen too close to all the possible side effects on commercials you might chose to avoid it all together.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-committee-recommends-first-cbd-oil-product-n867511

Cannabidiol - CBD for shorrt — is a cannabis derivative and the approval would be limited to treating seizures caused by Lennox-Gastaut syndrome (LGS) and Dravet syndrome in patients aged 2 and older.

“Epidiolex represents hope for the many individuals living with intractable seizures and rare epilepsies, who every day face incredible challenges and disabling seizures, and live with the continual risk of serious injury and death,” said Philip Gattone, president and CEO of the Epilepsy Foundation.
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Though derived from the marijuana plant (Cannabis sativa), the purified CBD contains none of the psychoactive tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) associated with using the plant in various forms to get 'stoned.' See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)
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So then why is it still a Schedule I narcotic? Trump or Sessions could change that.
 
We use it on our dog (non THC) for his arthritis. He moves better after we give it him and he sleeps better. The wife uses the THC kind for her carpal tunnel. It works for her. She has some THC creme she rubs on her elbow and shoulder that works pretty good also.
 
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