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Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client[W:1086]

Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

Hannity doesn't pretend to be a journalist, like so many on MSNBC and CNN do. He states upfront, "I do an opinion news show, I am not a journalist".

As I said, if you're a Fox News executive and credibility isn't a priority for you, then this doesn't matter. If credibility is a priority for you, then it does matter. It's as simple as that.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

In order to use ACP, Cohen has to have clients. In order to show the court that he has clients, he has to name them. The court isn't going to let him say "but judge I do have clients, I swear, it's just a secret so I can't tell you!". The justification was that Cohen made a legal argument and he needed to show support for it.

He didn't have to divulge the name, but then he would've had to withdraw his legal argument.

Baloney. An attorney needs only one client to claim attorney client privilege. There is nothing in the attorney codes of conduct in either any of the states or the federal bars requiring an attorney to have any clients, or more than one. You are talking through your hat.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

Baloney. An attorney needs only one client to claim attorney client privilege. There is nothing in the attorney codes of conduct in either any of the states or the federal bars requiring an attorney to have any clients, or more than one. You are talking through your hat.

Somebody needs to explain to me how trump supporters have managed to stay out of prison.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

Cohen's defense can't be behind closed doors, because then the prosecution doesn't have access to it...

They can all be behind closed doors and not in an open court. C'mon, think.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

How is the relationship between Hannity and Cohen a matter for the court?

If an abortion clinic is raided by the FBI for tax evasion does the abortionist have to provide their client list by name in open court.. or at all?

Already been explained to you.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

The judge wanted to know. <-Period Maybe you've never been to court but when a judge say jump, everyone there says ... "how high"; justification enough in every court in These United States.

Judges aren't above the law.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

I've read it. Point me to what you think is justification for the court to release the client's name.

I wasn't there so what I think is irrelevant.

However, after hearing Cohen's lawyers plead to suppress for 30 minutes, the judge disagreed and ordered Hannity's identity revealed in court.

What made it even more perfect ... Stormy Daniels and her lawyer were also in the Manhattan courtroom.

Doesn't get much better than this :lamo
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

https://nypost.com/2018/04/16/michael-cohens-mystery-3rd-client-revealed-sean-hannity/

"Embattled Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s mysterious third client was revealed Monday as Fox News host Sean Hannity."

Nothing surprises me anymore, but this little nugget is very juicy. Cohen's attorneys argued with the judge for more than half an hour trying to avoid saying Hannity's name out loud.

It's easy to determine is he is a client or not. Hannity says he is not. Cohen may have used his name for bragging rights to up his reputation. What does this have to with Trump and Russia?

I think there is a clear line between is and is not.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

my point exactly....Cohen as the lawyer gave LEGAL advice...hence he considers Hannity a client....even if he never charged for it, and it was a friendly phone call, he considered it a privileged call

Hannity who never received a bill, and never signed a retainer doesnt consider Cohen his attorney

Can they both be right?
No.

There has to be an actual, defined, client-attorney relationship first. This usually means a contract or engagement letter. If I bump into a lawyer at a cocktail party, and ask him for legal advice on divorcing my wife, we have not established a professional relationship yet. That conversation is not protected.

One of the two is lying. If it's Hannity, then none of his conversations are protected by attorney-client privilege. If it's Cohen, then he almost certainly screwed up by lying to the judge.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

But it's okay for a tax cheat like Al Sharpton to remain at MSNBC?

Whataboutism doesn't make a good argument.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

It's easy to determine is he is a client or not. Hannity says he is not. Cohen may have used his name for bragging rights to up his reputation. What does this have to with Trump and Russia?
The Cohen investigation has nothing whatsoever to do with Mueller's investigation. They are two completely separate legal processes.

SDNY was working on its own investigations before Mueller said anything to them about it.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

Uh huh. Tell me something: do you trust anything Hannity says now?

You mean like promising to be waterboarded all those years ago? :lamo
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

The identity of a client is not privileged information. Certain conversations, correspondence, and other information sharing are sometimes privileged. Cohen's attorneys argued extensively with the judge. They lost. I don't know which "anti-Trumpers" you're trying to criticize here, but it might be a little misguided given your misunderstanding of attorney-client confidentiality.

The identity of Cohen's clients is pertinent because the government raided Cohen's personal and professional property last week. The president is attempting to quash the fruits of those multiple raids. The judge is doing her job by exploring the nature of the seized property and what should or should not be given to prosecutors for their use in an ongoing criminal investigation.

I hope that helps.

False.

A lawyer can not release the identity of a client without client consent. There is no legal grounds for the court to compel the lawyer to release that name.

This was a press by the prosecution and the judge to force the outing of Hannity for fear that it would be leaked anyway.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

Kimba woods is a Democrat. That says it all.

A Democrat?? Say it isn't so! Every last one of them are irreputable and can't be trusted to execute their judicial duties faithfully and impartially! Maybe if we replace her with a Republican all of your thoughtful supposition and righteous fear will be addressed. Also, Judge Wood (not Woods) was appointed by President Reagan.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

No one in this thread has called Sean Hannity a journalist. He's not. Even he knows that. But when you put him in a suit and sit him down in a studio with newsy graphics in red, white, and blue flashing all around him and across the screen while he plays the role of a news anchor, an unfortunate segment of the watching audience assigns credibility to the things he says. It's dangerous and erosive to the free press and to our democracy itself.

As someone else already told you, if you can't understand the breach of basic ethics in what Hannity has done, then I doubt a stranger on the internet can help you.

Journalists went to college and got degrees. Sean and Rush....not so much
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

False.

A lawyer can not release the identity of a client without client consent. There is no legal grounds for the court to compel the lawyer to release that name.

This was a press by the prosecution and the judge to force the outing of Hannity for fear that it would be leaked anyway.

https://presnellonprivileges.com/20...orney-client-privilege-for-client-identities/

The Court restated[/URL] the general rule that the privilege does notprotect client identities, but, in a break from other jurisdictions, limited the exceptions to this rule.
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So, you're correct that Cohen couldn't tell, say, me that Hannity is a client. But the court absolutely can compel that revelation. (unless the revelation itself somehow forces privileged information to release)
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

I've read it. Point me to what you think is justification for the court to release the client's name.

Because the defendant wants to suppress files that were seized by the government and invoked attorney-client privilege as the justification for doing so. As a result, the judge demanded the client's name. Then the defendant and his counsel spent days avoiding the court's question. Then the judge got pissed off, ordered Cohen to show up in court, and ordered his attorneys to answer her questions. All of this information is available to you in hundreds of different ways.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

The Cohen investigation has nothing whatsoever to do with Mueller's investigation. They are two completely separate legal processes.

SDNY was working on its own investigations before Mueller said anything to them about it.

Mueller, as I understand it requested the judge to get involved because Cohen was to have had a meeting in Prague (Cohen say's he's never been in Prague). So the motive for Mueller was to get access to Cohen's files and fish for "things" about Prague.

It's a ruse to get past the attorney client firewall to find more little fish to nab and associate with Trump. The "taint" team if there is one will not hesitate to leak to Mueller regardless of ethics.

It puts a new spin on "The FBI always gets it's man" - one way or another as long as your name isn't Clinton.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

5) Cohen answers the judge's question behind closed doors and protects his clients's privacy.

Or,

6) She upholds attorney client priviledge.

The client has no right nor expectation to privacy of his identity. Do any of you know anything at all about the law?
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

False.

A lawyer can not release the identity of a client without client consent. There is no legal grounds for the court to compel the lawyer to release that name.
Yes, there is. It's been explained to you. Cohen's legal argument hinges on the idea that he has had significant attorney-client communications, but that is undermined by the paucity of the number of clients.

The only reason Cohen's attorneys could think of not to name Hannity was because it might embarrass Hannity. While they were certainly correct on that point, that is not a valid legal standard to stop the disclosure.


This was a press by the prosecution and the judge to force the outing of Hannity for fear that it would be leaked anyway.
lol

So they knew Hannity was a client before Cohen's team made it public? That's a neat trick.

News flash! It wasn't the prosecution who demanded this, it was the judge, and she did it because Cohen's team were making extravagant claims. They got what they deserved, which is a big black eye, and I'm guessing one pissed-off judge.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

Cohen claimed to the court that "thousands, if not millions" of communications seized by the SDNY fall under attorney-client privilege, and on that basis Cohen's team should review the seized documents first (which is a rather insane claim, to let the defendant decide what should be allowed to go into evidence, and basically never happens), or at least that the court should appoint a special master. The prosecutors rebut that claim and say that very little is actually privileged, because Cohen does almost no legal work for anyone.

As a result, the judge demanded that Cohen's team produce a list of his clients today. They came up with 10 names, 7 of which did not hire Cohen for any legal work. That leaves Trump, Elliot Brady (who got outed as a client last week by the WSJ) and the Mystery Client (Hannity).

If Cohen only has three clients, two of whom used him as a bag man for payoffs to mistresses, and a third who throws him under the bus immediately after his name is released as a client? Yeah, Cohen is pretty much screwed. His legal team can kiss bye-bye to the claim that most of the evidence ought to be protected by attorney-client privilege, let alone the idea that Cohen's team should get first crack.

It also doesn't help if the judge basically interprets Cohen as lying to the court to save his own skin... and that instead of showing up in court last week, he was out smoking cigars with his buddies, in full view of the press no less.

*(which is a rather insane claim, to let the defendant decide what should be allowed to go into evidence, and basically never happens)*

HRC made that claim and proceeded to delete emails she deemed not State Dept business.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

So...****ing...what? :lamo

Man, if you could see yourselves. :lamo

Lies don't work in courts. I would think you're just painfully uneducated about these things, but the worse truth is that you're playing this part for partisan reasons. It's so, so sad to watch.
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

American Bar Association
Model Rule 1.6 strictly limits the occasions on which an attorney may reveal confidential
client communications.23 In keeping with the protection afforded to the client by the attorneyclient
privilege, Rule 1.6 states that the attorney “shall not reveal information relating to the
representation of a client unless the client gives informed consent, the disclosure is impliedly
authorized in order to carry out the representation,” (emphasis added), or under the enumerated
limited circumstances in which the attorney may reveal information relating to the representation
to the extent the lawyer believes is necessary:

(1) to prevent reasonably certain death or substantial bodily harm;
(2) to secure legal advice about the lawyer’s compliance with these Rules;
(3) to establish a claim or defense on behalf of the lawyer in a controversy
between the lawyer and the client, to establish a defense to a criminal
charge or civil claim against the lawyer based upon conduct in which the
client was involved, or to respond to allegations in any proceeding
concerning the lawyer’s representation of the client; or
(4) to comply with other law or a court order

Courts can order an attorney to reveal the identity of a client in order to determine privilege applicability.
https://www.americanbar.org/content...rce_articles_attorney_client.authcheckdam.pdf
 
Re: Sean Hannity revealed as Michael Cohen’s 3rd client

*(which is a rather insane claim, to let the defendant decide what should be allowed to go into evidence, and basically never happens)*

HRC made that claim and proceeded to delete emails she deemed not State Dept business.

HRC was subpoenaed which meant her team was the one that was supposed to do it. The Campaign had nothing to do with the IT guy deleting emails. Sorry, completely false equivalency here.
 
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