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Trump hires lawyer to shield items seized in FBI raid on Cohen

Hawkeye10 said:
Cuban Smokes laughs as America burns, the FAILED INTELLIGENTSIA! having long ago decided to burn America down to burn Trump out.

Your judgment is shoddy.
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I like how you use large fonts and all caps to defend Trump. It makes your point so much more valid.
 
gdgyva said:
Who if not an attorney would write up an NDA...which by the way, is not illegal or immoral?
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Oh it's not immoral to constantly screw around on one's wife, break campaign finance laws to cover it up? Definitely the moral thing to do.
 
markjs said:
Oh it's not immoral to constantly screw around on one's wife, break campaign finance laws to cover it up? Definitely the moral thing to do.
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Gotta stick to that so-called Republican moral high ground even when it gets soft & mushy like quicksand.
 
markjs said:
Oh it's not immoral to constantly screw around on one's wife, break campaign finance laws to cover it up? Definitely the moral thing to do.
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Why do you and others constantly want to add spin to what I and others write?

The question was

Is an NDA illegal? Yes or no

Is an NDA immoral? Yes or no

Not this particular one....I was responding to a query....and so many want to add to what other write
 
JacksinPA said:
I have a mutual NDA with a professor at the U. of Delaware & it didn't require a lawyer.
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Okay

But if it is ever challenged, the language may not hold up in a court of law

That is why attorney’s usually write them up....to make them iron clad

I am speaking generally...not this specific Trump one
 
GDViking said:
Is it legal when all the names on the document are false?

Who checked the identification of the signatures and noterised it?

I had to show ID to vote seems like a contract like that to be legal it should be witnessed and proper Identification should be recorded, and ALL people named would have to sing it.
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I have no idea...I was speaking generally...not specifically about the Trump NDA
 
Mach said:
It really does seem like he takes this more seriously than Mueller's probe, and was blindsided. So many people kept saying "who cares about a porn star!?!", without accepting that Avenatti was both running his own investigation, and maneuvering Cohen (and Trump) into more and more legal jeopardy seemingly every week.

I love the intense and immediate cries of "attorney client is dead!!!", and it turns out, aside from porn star hush NDAs he's done very little legal work, and has almost no communications with Trump (who prefers phone and in-person).

But claims like this make me suspect he's so far in over his head that it's not even funny:



Yeah Cohen, you tell those FBI agents what they can and what they cannot have...sounds reasonable. Almost like your boss trying to decide who gets to investigate him, or if he can be investigated at all.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...hreat-than-mueller/ar-AAvQo7s?ocid=spartandhp
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Here is the to-date result of my probing around the net all night; I surf when I can't sleep. Of the three issues facing Trump, experts are in agreement that the third, Cohen pay offs, its the most worrisome for the White House. The issue isn't just one dalliance but a pattern of affairs and what appears to be a pattern of pay offs during the election campaign, coming back around full circle.

The bleat of "attorney client privilege" is a non-issue and anyone in the law knows it. This is routine. They will get what they need without trampling privilege - the only quarter making that argument is Trump himself in one of his first tweets. So you can see the power he as with the idiots. One tweet against 150 news items. Duh.
 
markjs said:
Oh it's not immoral to constantly screw around on one's wife, break campaign finance laws to cover it up? Definitely the moral thing to do.
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Again...it was a blanket statement....

You are talking about Trump

Reread my sentence...is Trump mentioned at all?

Is Cohen?

Are they the only two people in the country who use NDA’s?
 
dcsports said:
Look - she knows the agreement is binding.
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Unless, of course, the contract was fraudulently created. Like, say, if the attorney claiming to represent Daniels was secretly working on behalf of Cohen. Like, for example, Keith Davidson, who just so happens to have been involved in the payoff of Daniels, McDougal and Broidy's mistress. I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect that would be grounds to nullify an agreement.

I'm sure those two working together on all those payoffs was all just coincidence though...
 
gdgyva said:
Why do you and others constantly want to add spin to what I and others write?

The question was

Is an NDA illegal? Yes or no

Is an NDA immoral? Yes or no

Not this particular one....I was responding to a query....and so many want to add to what other write
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A payoff specifically to hide a scandal for a candidate for office actually is illegal, yes.
 
Deuce said:
A payoff specifically to hide a scandal for a candidate for office actually is illegal, yes.
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Wow

So many with reading comprehension issues

The NDA is a tool used by people all over this country, and world, on an everyday basis

On its own merit...they are rather a mundane transaction

Lawyers write them mostly...because they want them to be iron clad....and they don’t want the party to be able to easily skiirt out of the contract

Do you understand that concept? are you able to grasp those facts?

Go back and look at my posts in this thread....

I won’t answer any more of these inane and stupid remarks
 
gdgyva said:
Wow

So many with reading comprehension issues

The NDA is a tool used by people all over this country, and world, on an everyday basis

On its own merit...they are rather a mundane transaction

Lawyers write them mostly...because they want them to be iron clad....and they don’t want the party to be able to easily skiirt out of the contract

Do you understand that concept? are you able to grasp those facts?

Go back and look at my posts in this thread....

I won’t answer any more of these inane and stupid remarks
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Walking into a bank isn't a crime. Wearing a mask isn't a crime. Carrying a gun isn't a crime. Walking out of a bank with a sack of cash isn't a crime.

Lots of things are mundane concepts taken in a vacuum, dude.
 
gdgyva said:
Wow

So many with reading comprehension issues

The NDA is a tool used by people all over this country, and world, on an everyday basis

On its own merit...they are rather a mundane transaction

Lawyers write them mostly...because they want them to be iron clad....and they don’t want the party to be able to easily skiirt out of the contract

Do you understand that concept? are you able to grasp those facts?

Go back and look at my posts in this thread....

I won’t answer any more of these inane and stupid remarks
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This lawyer wrote one regarding an incident his client denies ever took place, without his client's knowledge, and which his client didn't pay for. It'd be difficult to get that one to stick.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Unless, of course, the contract was fraudulently created. Like, say, if the attorney claiming to represent Daniels was secretly working on behalf of Cohen. Like, for example, Keith Davidson, who just so happens to have been involved in the payoff of Daniels, McDougal and Broidy's mistress. I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect that would be grounds to nullify an agreement.

I'm sure those two working together on all those payoffs was all just coincidence though...
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Except -- again -- legal malpractice would have been reason #1 on the request to void the agreement.
 
Praxas said:
Trump has publicly claimed he knew nothing about it. Therefore there is no attorney client proveledge and therefore no contract since a lawyer cannot act without the clients permission or knowledge.
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I can see you look to talking points and what ifs. However, if that is the case, her attorney should include that in his case.
 
dcsports said:
Except -- again -- legal malpractice would have been reason #1 on the request to void the agreement.
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Not if you couldn't prove it at the time you began proceedings. Charges of collusion between attorneys would be next to impossible for Avenatti to prove on his own.

However, we're now starting to see how often these two names appear together and we're starting to see that perhaps Davidson wasn't really representing the interests of Stormy Daniels.
 
dcsports said:
I can see you look to talking points and what ifs. However, if that is the case, her attorney should include that in his case.
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It’s not a what if, trump proclaimed that in air force 1 to the media which was recorded.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Innocent people don't do this.
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Sure they do and I would. Attorney client privilege like doctor patient privilege is a right and a sacred right that should
Only be violated in the most strictest of senses. Trumps files have nothing to do with what they are charging cohen with and they can't go on fishing expeditions.
 
NonoBadDog said:
That doesn't even address the issue that I was talking about. We have Miranda for a reason. Do you think it's stupid for a person to ask for an attorney before questioning?
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When it comes to trump all bets are off.
TDS doesn't allow for me to have any critical thinking ability.

His lawyer did the right thing. Unless they have evidence that trump has done something his
Files are protected. They would have to find outside evidence to give reason to get a judge to overturn attorney client
Privilege. These people don't care about that.
 
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