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4 in 10 millennials don't know 6 million Jews were killed in Holocaust, study shows

Taylor said:
Meh, either you "saddle them with debt" or you saddle them with taxes.
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So why is it that Germany has almost-free college (AND universal health coverage) but runs a budget surplus almost every year?

In other words, we CAN have almost-free college AND universal health coverage...if and only if we have the political courage to implement it. Unfortunately, there's too many Americans who - like that frog in the slowly-warming pot of water - think everything's just fine as it is, that it's somehow "unAmerican" to even think that it might be a good idea to do what other first-world democracies are doing, when their results are demonstrably better than our own.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
So why is it that Germany has almost-free college (AND universal health coverage) but runs a budget surplus almost every year?
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Because they have a far greater tax burden supporting a mediocre higher education system - nowhere near the quality that we have.

Edit: Eh, "mediocre" probably wasn't fair. Decent, but nowhere near the quality of schools that we have in the US.
 
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I never heard about the Holocaust in either Catholic or public schools, including college. I learned about it by watching documentaries about WWII.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
This is the same organization Finkelstein criticized in his book that basically exploited the Holocaust for personal gain.

My mother was a case in point. A survivor of the Warsaw Ghetto, Majdanek concentration camp and slave labour camps at Czestochowa and Skarszysko-Kamiena, she received only $3,500 in compensation from the German government. Other Jewish victims (and many who in fact were not victims),
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I'd take this survey with a huge grain of salt.
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Well, you go right ahead and pass the salt if you want.
My grandfather had to hand over twenty-five milion Marks in GOLD to be released from the camps, everything he had. He was the banker to the Rothschild family in Germany, you know...the family who SUPPOSEDLY owned the entire planet? Funny how both he and Louis Rothschild were stripped of everything by the Nazis.

We will never see a dime of that gold, which would be worth about $430 million today.
And the thing is, I actually traced where much of it wound up.

So to the "exploited the Holocaust for personal gain" charge, I'm the one inclined to take that charge with a grain of salt, or an entire shaker.

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Checkerboard Strangler said:
Well, you go right ahead and pass the salt if you want.
My grandfather had to hand over twenty-five milion Marks in GOLD to be released from the camps, everything he had. He was the banker to the Rothschild family in Germany, you know...the family who SUPPOSEDLY owned the entire planet? Funny how both he and Louis Rothschild were stripped of everything by the Nazis.

We will never see a dime of that gold, which would be worth about $430 million today.
And the thing is, I actually traced where much of it wound up.

So to the "exploited the Holocaust for personal gain" charge, I'm the one inclined to take that charge with a grain of salt, or an entire shaker.

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The proof has been well documented, by a descendant of an Auschwitz survivor no less. You should be offended more than anyone that this organization exploited the suffering of millions to hand out a pittance to survivors of the Holocaust.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
So...why is it, then, that most European nations - all of which are more "progressive" than America - have better educations for their kids. We spend more than they do on college...but several of them spend more than we do per student in K-12.
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Maybe we have inherently less intelligent offspring? Perhaps it's a cultural thing? Many things could explain the disparity if one does exist. How do explain it?

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Glen Contrarian said:
Actually, we spend more than any other nation on college education (thanks to our system that burdens college students with tens of thousands of dollars of debt the day they graduate), but when it comes to K-12 education, we actually spend LESS than quite a few other nations:

The United States spends more money educating its young people than any other nation, according to a study from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), which compiles educational data from nations across the globe each year. In 2010, the U.S. spent nearly $12,000 per student on elementary and secondary education, almost 40% more than the OECD average of $8,500. College spending, including technical schools and universities, was over $25,000, nearly double the average spending of other countries in the OECD. Total U.S. spending averaged $15,171 per student, slightly more than Switzerland’s $14,922 per year and 30% more than the average for all of the countries included in the OECD study.

The U.S. spending estimate includes money spent by public sources, such as federally guaranteed student loans and direct loans from the Department of Education, and private funds. Private funds include fees and expenses paid by parents and students and private student loans, which are not federally guaranteed.

Several countries outspent the U.S. on elementary and secondary education, including Switzerland, Norway and Luxembourg, which spent $19,050 per full-time student in 2010. Switzerland came closest to U.S. spending on higher education, with total expenditures per student of nearly $22,000 per year. Sweden was next at $19,500 followed by Denmark and Norway, which spent $18,900 and $18,500 respectively.

The U.S. also spent less of its total wealth on education than many of its counterparts. In terms of the percentage of the gross domestic product (GDP) spent on education, it trailed Denmark, Iceland, the Republic of Korea and Israel.
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"we spend more than any other nation on college education (thanks to our system that burdens college students with tens of thousands of dollars of debt the day they graduate"
All this driven by government run student loans, which, logic would seem to indicate, caused the colleges to hike their tuition - 'Hey, students can get large loans from the government, we can get some of that money'.

"when it comes to K-12 education, we actually spend LESS than quite a few other nations"

This seems in direct contradiction to

"the U.S. spent nearly $12,000 per student on elementary and secondary education, almost 40% more than the OECD average of $8,500. College spending, including technical schools and universities, was over $25,000, nearly double the average spending of other countries in the OECD."

?? What's up with that?
 
eohrnberger said:
"we spend more than any other nation on college education (thanks to our system that burdens college students with tens of thousands of dollars of debt the day they graduate"
All this driven by government run student loans, which, logic would seem to indicate, caused the colleges to hike their tuition - 'Hey, students can get large loans from the government, we can get some of that money'.

"when it comes to K-12 education, we actually spend LESS than quite a few other nations"

This seems in direct contradiction to

"the U.S. spent nearly $12,000 per student on elementary and secondary education, almost 40% more than the OECD average of $8,500. College spending, including technical schools and universities, was over $25,000, nearly double the average spending of other countries in the OECD."

?? What's up with that?
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Money not spent intelligently and no accountability for anyone involved in education.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
That's what happens when education budgets are slashed to the bone. Schools are forced to concentrate only on those courses that enable students to get a decent score on the SAT...and the rest of the courses are either shortened or eliminated altogether.

In other words, you DON'T improve education by slashing budgets to the bone, thus making it much harder for schools to educate our kids. Yes, hold schools to a higher standard by all means - but they still must be properly funded...and if you're not willing to pay the taxes to properly fund schools, then you aren't willing to do what's necessary for our kids to have a decent education.
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Oh please. This has nothing to do with education budgets. This has to do with schools teaching liberalism at the expense of teaching the truth about history, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
 
Of course they haven't. They also have no clue that Margaret Sanger was a eugenics fan, and started planned parenthood in order to purify the bloodlines...meaning get rid of blacks and jews. Don't believe it, google it.
 
leekohler2 said:
WHAT???!!! You can't be serious.
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I'm over 60 years old. I clearly remember when I was in high school watching films about concentration camps, the killings of Jews in gas chambers, and I also clearly remember watching on film large trenches that were dug and bulldozers pushing thousands of dead skinny boned bodies into the trenches for burial.
 
trouble13 said:
Maybe we have inherently less intelligent offspring? Perhaps it's a cultural thing? Many things could explain the disparity if one does exist. How do explain it?

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Parents not involved in kids lives/education.
Educators not held accountable.
Kids don't care about education because parents don't either.
Electronic distractions from phones / games
No parental monitoring or discipline
Poor community support for kids and schools

It requires a license to fish, hunt, or to drive, but any moron can have kids.
 
Moderate Right said:
Oh please. This has nothing to do with education budgets. This has to do with schools teaching liberalism at the expense of teaching the truth about history, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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This post shows that you know nothing about education.
 
itsforthekids said:
Of course they haven't. They also have no clue that Margaret Sanger was a eugenics fan, and started planned parenthood in order to purify the bloodlines...meaning get rid of blacks and jews. Don't believe it, google it.
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That is a Right Wing Conspiracy theory....De-Bunked many times
 
Moot said:
I grew up mostly in Utah and never met a Jew until my family briefly moved to Phoenix during my eighth and ninth grade. But I'll never forget my 8th grade history teacher giving us a lecture against the "mixing of races" with tears running down her face. At that age I had never even thought about that kind of stuff.
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Did they talk about how Jews have horns, too?
 
Glen Contrarian said:
So why is it that Germany has almost-free college (AND universal health coverage) but runs a budget surplus almost every year?

In other words, we CAN have almost-free college AND universal health coverage...if and only if we have the political courage to implement it. Unfortunately, there's too many Americans who - like that frog in the slowly-warming pot of water - think everything's just fine as it is, that it's somehow "unAmerican" to even think that it might be a good idea to do what other first-world democracies are doing, when their results are demonstrably better than our own.
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Candidate for Post of the Month :D
 
SMTA said:
Money not spent intelligently and no accountability for anyone involved in education.
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Agreed. Much to the detriment of the children's future potential.
 
Taylor said:
Because they have a far greater tax burden supporting a mediocre higher education system - nowhere near the quality that we have.

Edit: Eh, "mediocre" probably wasn't fair. Decent, but nowhere near the quality of schools that we have in the US.
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Did you actually say that German higher education is nowhere near as good as ours?
That's hilarious.
 
Moderate Right said:
I'm over 60 years old. I clearly remember when I was in high school watching films about concentration camps, the killings of Jews in gas chambers, and I also clearly remember watching on film large trenches that were dug and bulldozers pushing thousands of dead skinny boned bodies into the trenches for burial.
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Same here, in the Montgomery County Maryland public schools K-12.
Your argument about liberal school districts fails because MCPS was and probably still is one of the most liberal school systems in the country yet it consistently scores at or near the top in quality of education.

To the man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
 
itsforthekids said:
Of course they haven't. They also have no clue that Margaret Sanger was a eugenics fan, and started planned parenthood in order to purify the bloodlines...meaning get rid of blacks and jews. Don't believe it, google it.
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I see the John Birch Society contingent has arrived.
 
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