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Chomsky said:
This is True. Jesuits are perhaps the most "in the real world" of the Catholic priestly orders, and their mission is essentially to interact in the world. They also are very strongly pushed to acquire Ph.D.s in a lay field, along with their Masters in Theology from their priestly formation.

Definitely among Catholics, and often enough among non-Catholics, they are considered superior educators. Of the Catholic prep schools in my area, the Jesuit schools are in the very highest demand and most selective. And they have a very strong foundational core curriculum of history, philosophy, theology, writing, language, research, rhetoric, and debate. In fact debate is usually considered the school's highest competitive extra-mural activity, in terms of stature. So you are right I believe, in that I bolded above.
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At Georgetown my wife was in the Language School but had a friend who was a Republican in the Foreign Service school. That woman was a Young Republican along with Manafort, so my wife's friend knew him.
 
JacksinPA said:
At Georgetown my wife was in the Language School but had a friend who was a Republican in the Foreign Service school. That woman was a Young Republican along with Manafort, so my wife's friend knew him.
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Interesting. So it strikes close to home, eh?

Catholics can have a pretty disparate take on life & politics, though. While generally thought of as social conservative - which is true - they very often are strong proponents of liberal social programs and abundant social relief. In addition, due to the international nature of Catholicism & its ties to Rome, Catholics tend to often think in international terms.

I've got a lot of respect for Georgetown. My brother seriously considered going, but instead picked another Jesuit university. We love the Jesuits! And they are damn good High School level educators. Fantastic, to be honest.
 
wellwisher said:
The problem is, when Manafort committed his crimes this was under Obama.
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So would you agree that the President is responsible for all criminal activity which takes place when they are in office - even if the criminal activity was directed so as to produce benefits of the person who succeeded them in office?
 
Chomsky said:
This is the danger with billionaires running the country.
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Oh come on now.

Surely there must be at least ONE honest, ethical, and non-self serving billionaire in the United States of America.
 
Cardinal said:
Ex-President of South Korea Park Geun-hye received a 24 year sentence today on 16 criminal charges, including bribery, coercion and abuse of power.

This depressed the wife and me, knowing that if Trump is shown to be guilty there'll be no such application of justice here.
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....and we so often sea small Asian country's as corrupt.

Was reading NYT piece about why Spanky is shooting at Amazon. It appears every time the Washington Post says anything Spanky doesn't like, he accuses Amazon of cheating on taxes and not paying postal fees.

All lies.

This madman is far more dangerous than we thought
 
Fearandloathing said:
....and we so often sea small Asian country's as corrupt.

Was reading NYT piece about why Spanky is shooting at Amazon. It appears every time the Washington Post says anything Spanky doesn't like, he accuses Amazon of cheating on taxes and not paying postal fees.

All lies.

This madman is far more dangerous than we thought
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Trump's online store, which sells things like ties and polo shirts and such, collects sales tax from two states. Amazon collects taxes in all fifty states. The starting assumption should always be that Trump is simultaneously lying and hypocritical.
 
Cardinal said:
Trump's online store, which sells things like ties and polo shirts and such, collects sales tax from two states. Amazon collects taxes in all fifty states. The starting assumption should always be that Trump is simultaneously lying and hypocritical.
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It's back firing.

One, neither you nor I knew Amazon was collecting taxes at all, and now find out they are (there are couple exempt) but that they are the ONLY E-tailer that does; all the rest only collect state taxes in the states they ship from.

Amazon is getting the better press, and as it becomes more widely known this is about Trump and his childishness, and not the country, this will end up in his face.
 
Fearandloathing said:
It's back firing.

One, neither you nor I knew Amazon was collecting taxes at all, and now find out they are (there are couple exempt) but that they are the ONLY E-tailer that does; all the rest only collect state taxes in the states they ship from.

Amazon is getting the better press, and as it becomes more widely known this is about Trump and his childishness, and not the country, this will end up in his face.
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Actually I knew that, and even remember the switch to collecting taxes from all fifty states because I'm a small business owner and have to report all my expenses. For many years I'd have to file and pay "state use" taxes for all the purchases that came from out of state that didn't collect taxes. It was a relief when Amazon started collecting taxes because that was less paperwork for me. So if you operate a business, you automatically know that Trump is full of ****.

Frankly, it's insulting to discuss that topic as if it's about anything more than Trump not liking the Washington Post for publishing articles that are critical of him.
 
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Cardinal said:
Actually I knew that, and even remember the switch to collecting taxes from all fifty states because I'm a small business owner and have to report all my expenses. For many years I'd have to file and pay "state use" taxes for all the purchases that came from out of state that didn't collect taxes. It was a relief when Amazon started collecting taxes because that was less paperwork for me. So if you operate a business, you automatically know that Trump is full of ****.

Frankly, it's insulting to discuss that topic as if it's about anything more than Trump not liking the Washington Post for publishing articles that are critical of him.
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A president openly starting a personal feud against anyone is dangerous.
 
Fearandloathing said:
It's back firing.

One, neither you nor I knew Amazon was collecting taxes at all, and now find out they are (there are couple exempt) but that they are the ONLY E-tailer that does; all the rest only collect state taxes in the states they ship from.
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I get an even bigger chuckle out of Mr. Trump's "business math" which runs along the lines of:

  • IF it costs "A" $X to do "Y";
  • AND IF on a "one time basis" "A" will charge "B" $X+10 to do "Y" for "B";
  • AND IF on a "bulk rate basis" "A" will charge "C" $X+8 to do "Y" for "C";
  • THEN "A" loses $2 everytime it does "Y" for "C";
  • HOWEVER IF "A" charges "C" $X+10 to do "Y";
  • THEN "C" will go to "D" who will only charge $X+8 to do "Y" for "C";
  • THEREFORE IF "A" raises its rates on the 1,000,000 time per year that it does "Y" for "C" to $X+10
  • THEN "A" will made an additional $2,000,000 in profit every year;
  • Q.E.D.

I expect that Wharton is seriously considering asking for Mr. Trump to return his B.S. (Econ) - on the other hand "BS Economics" does sound somewhat appropriate, doesn't it?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Seems reasonable.



Nope.



Nope, but he couldn't use the 5th Amendment to justify refusal to answer.



Not as long as no one spills the beans.



That's quite possible and that is regardless of whether he is convicted or pardoned.

Of course, Mr. Trump could well wait until the last day of his term of office and then pardon Mr. Manafort when it is too late to do anything with any information that Mr. Manafort might have.

On the other hand, Mr. Trump could tell Mr. Manafort that that is what he is going to do PLUS pay him a very large sum of money for the time he spent in jail and then simply walk away from the deal when it is too late to do anything with any information that Mr. Manafort might have.

Does anyone want to bet on which of those two possibilities is more likely?
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Trump isn't leery of pardons, just look at his pardoning of Joe Arpiao.

What Trump is doing is simply waiting for Mueller to show his full hand, so he can pardon everyone at once, and doesn't have to re-pardon anyone. That's how Bush played it during the Iran-Contra investigation, and I think Trump is taking a page from his book.
 
MovingPictures said:
Trump isn't leery of pardons, just look at his pardoning of Joe Arpiao.
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A stunning example of compassion for the mentally less than up to it.

MovingPictures said:
What Trump is doing is simply waiting for Mueller to show his full hand, so he can pardon everyone at once, and doesn't have to re-pardon anyone. That's how Bush played it during the Iran-Contra investigation, and I think Trump is taking a page from his book.
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I'm glad that you think "good government" is somehow related to ensuring that law breakers get away with breaking the law on your behalf rather than to ensuring that you don't have law breakers working on your behalf.

The amount of loyalty that Mr. Trump is likely to display toward anyone who is convicted of breaking the law on Mr. Trump's behalf (even if not specifically with Mr. Trump's knowledge and/or direction) is likely to be enough to fill one half of a gnat's navel. [INTERESTING ETYMOLOGICAL ASIDE - Gnat's do not have navels.] [INTERESTING ARITHMETICAL ASIDE - What is 50% of 0?]
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
A stunning example of compassion for the mentally less than up to it.



I'm glad that you think "good government" is somehow related to ensuring that law breakers get away with breaking the law on your behalf rather than to ensuring that you don't have law breakers working on your behalf.

The amount of loyalty that Mr. Trump is likely to display toward anyone who is convicted of breaking the law on Mr. Trump's behalf (even if not specifically with Mr. Trump's knowledge and/or direction) is likely to be enough to fill one half of a gnat's navel. [INTERESTING ETYMOLOGICAL ASIDE - Gnat's do not have navels.] [INTERESTING ARITHMETICAL ASIDE - What is 50% of 0?]
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I'm not supporting Trump actions.

If you read my post history, you'll see I pretty much despise the man, and believe he is guilty of conspiracy.
 
j-mac said:
He's the AG...Even though he's not acting like it....

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So he should just unrecuse himself...conflicts of interests be damned...just to make you happy?
 
Cardinal said:
So he should just unrecuse himself...conflicts of interests be damned...just to make you happy?
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Tell me how 2004 dealings with Ukrainian's has to do with 2016 elections again? See, I think this whole thing is full of ****....


And why not just unrecuse? That's exactly what ****bird liberals would do....
 
j-mac said:
Tell me how 2004 dealings with Ukrainian's has to do with 2016 elections again? See, I think this whole thing is full of ****....


And why not just unrecuse? That's exactly what ****bird liberals would do....
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You’re clearly too angry to approach this rationally.
 
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