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David Hogg Goes After John McCain: Why Do You Take So Much Money From the NRA?[W:516]

Re: David Hogg Goes After John McCain: Why Do You Take So Much Money From the NRA?

bubbabgone said:
You mean you really do think the boycott against her sponsors was a grassroots thing?
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I think there is no age restriction on finding Ingraham's comment disgusting.
 
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JoeTrumps said:
Parkland's David Hogg to McCain: 'Why do you take so much money from the NRA?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-why-do-you-take-so-much-money-nra/473729002/

Wow, the left's golden boy going after a guy with brain cancer. They demonized Trump for doing that. So unless the left doesn't want to look like hypocrites they have to call Hogg out. right?

p.s. When McCain is attacked by the left he always gives in...Ingram should have never apologized.
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Hogg is using that combination of tactics that is so loved by the left nowadays: Snark and deflection.

McCain tweets about this: https://www.azcentral.com/story/opi...ned-change-phoenix-tempe-town-lake/471444002/

Hogg tweets about the NRA.
 
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Lerxst said:
Hogg didn't "go after" McCain. He asked him a simple question. Hogg isn't untouchable, he knows what he's doing.

Donald Trump, the man you worship as a deity, definitely went after McCain.
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Like I said brain dead, I didn't have a problem with the guy going after McCain, only that McCain is supposed to be out of bounds due to illness(at least that is the excuse the media uses whenever Trump mentions his name for screwing the GOP on Obamacare repeal). So how is it ok for this dumb twirp to go after McCain? He said republicans are sick ****s with childrens blood on his hands(last time I remember McCain is a Republican genius) and then makes a point to single him out now? But he's not "going after" McCain in your fantasy world, is that it? He's a bomb thrower and a shill for the left at this point. Maybe his intentions were good at first, I'll admit that. but I stand behind what I said.
 
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JoeTrumps said:
no, see the point is: isn't it ironic that Hogg(deemed untouchable of criticism by the media) is going after McCain(deemed untouchable of criticism by the media). It doesn't bother me personally that he went after McCain. I'm pointing out the screwed up situation when judged by the rules liberals have drawn out. jesus, do I have to explain everything to you people?
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Ironic?

No.

You all are making the same mistake. You keep attributing grown up stupidity to a very smart and, probably gifted teenager. Teenager. Can we hear that again, he is still in high school.

and he owns you.

Lock, stock and barrel. He has gone up against the White House and silenced them. He has gone up against Fax News and brought them to their knees, humilitaing a host into having to take a week off.

And there sits the right, smugly throwing out criticisms of......a kid. He's a kid. And what are you doing this Saturday in spring but talking about HIM, And his cause.

The meatheads at Trumpidiot.com have been attacking this young man for two weeks flat by my estimate and haven't so much a bruised him, you sure as **** haven't slowed him....and by the constant harping and heaping of abuse, his "base" grows. It's a base of parents with kids his age, parents of kids who soon will be, with other kids and guys like me. A lot of people have sat on the sidelines buying the party bull**** that we can NEVER fix it, are far more likely to get out of the Barcalounger and get behind this kid.

Did I mention he's a kid?

Now, as to "deemed untouchable...." Why do you invent that? He definitely NOT untouchable, because all the media has been criticizing him as though he were an adult. Unrelenting lies that he's an "actor", more that he's paid and on and on....and no this thin gruel of a whine that a teenage is getting more and better press than Spanky....

Who hasn't said much about this teenager. He's slapped at everyone from other world leaders to the mother of a dead soldier...what's Trump afraid mof here?
 
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JoeTrumps said:
Parkland's David Hogg to McCain: 'Why do you take so much money from the NRA?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-why-do-you-take-so-much-money-nra/473729002/

Wow, the left's golden boy going after a guy with brain cancer. They demonized Trump for doing that. So unless the left doesn't want to look like hypocrites they have to call Hogg out. right?

p.s. When McCain is attacked by the left he always gives in...Ingram should have never apologized.
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I have a question for Hogg: Who has their hand up your ass and how much are they paying you?
 
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Cardinal said:
I think there is no age restriction on finding Ingraham's comment disgusting.
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So then that's a yes, you believe the sponsor boycott was a grassroots phenomenon?
 
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Lerxst said:
Hogg asking a senior political leader why he takes money from the NRA is some kind of insidious trap? Really? You guys are acting as if you don't care for transparency in government or holding our political leaders accountable.

This 18 year old kid has the right worried he's going to take down the gun lobby or something. Just by asking a simple question.
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I think the right is more amused than worried. Script reader Hogg has already tripped and will likely take a major fall before too long.
 
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nota bene said:
Hogg's going after McCain makes me wonder who's pulling his strings, though.
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Probably Soros or Michael Bloomberg's anti-gun group.
 
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MSgt said:
Do you know what will appease the growing anti-gun crowd? All it would take is for "responsible" gun owners, the NRA, and their GOP dogs to insist that the mentally-ill be barred from legally purchasing firearms. Does that hurt you? Or for "responsible" gun owners, the NRA, and their GOP dogs to insist that gun owners own proper safes so that their underage children have no access. Does that hurt you? Or for "responsible" gun owners, the NRA, and their GOP dogs to insist that the purchasing price be 21 so that mentally disturbed kids have more time to mature. Does any of this hurt you? Of course not. But you are so concerned about this slippery-slope nonsense that you argue for stagnation, which feeds that "20%." <--- See how I went back to my topic sentence?
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Speaking for myself here: For the first time ever (starting a few weeks ago), I seriously advocated for repeal of the 2nd Amendment. This was out of a frustration with gun rights activists for holding to the belief that they are not required to negotiate on gun control measures to any degree. More to the point, they behave with the entitled view that they don't even need to participate seriously in such a discussion. My goal in repealing the 2A is that it would force gun rights activists to the table and actually negotiate. As it stands, they stand comfortably shielded behind the 2nd Amendment and give nothing. If they relented on certain measures, my talk of repealing the 2A would dry up instantly, and considering that such a suggestion is creeping into the mainstream, I don't think I'm alone. And yet, for all our frustration, we're still not at the point of talking about banning guns.

If a comic book ever writes my villain origin story, it'll focus on the day that the NRA sued Florida over its gun control law. When I saw that headline I thought, "Oh, well that's your problem right there. The 2nd Amendment has to go."
 
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JoeTrumps said:
Parkland's David Hogg to McCain: 'Why do you take so much money from the NRA?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-why-do-you-take-so-much-money-nra/473729002/

Wow, the left's golden boy going after a guy with brain cancer. They demonized Trump for doing that. So unless the left doesn't want to look like hypocrites they have to call Hogg out. right?

p.s. When McCain is attacked by the left he always gives in...Ingram should have never apologized.
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If I were McCain my response would be. "You talked me into it. I'm not only going to continue to accept money from the NRA, I am going to solicit more from them. I will also join them as a life time member. I am going to look into introducing a bill that requires any Federal funds given to Planned Parenthood must be matched to the NRA. After all between the two organizations the NRA is the only one that has killed no one and has actually saved lives."
 
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bubbabgone said:
So then that's a yes, you believe the sponsor boycott was a grassroots phenomenon?
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It's a phenomenon that stretches across all demographics. I'm not sure what your insistence on the word "grassroots" is based on, or what its importance is to you.
 
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Casca XV said:
If I were McCain my response would be. "You talked me into it. I'm not only going to continue to accept money from the NRA, I am going to solicit more from them. I will also join them as a life time member. I am going to look into introducing a bill that requires any Federal funds given to Planned Parenthood must be matched to the NRA. After all between the two organizations the NRA is the only one that has killed no one and has actually saved lives."
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Agree with him or disagree with him, it's not his style to gratuitously piss people off, let alone mock the teenage survivor of a massacre. You're thinking of the new Republican party.
 
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Phys251 said:
Apparently you are okay with attacking a young man who is lucky to be alive after a school shooting. Why aren't you in favor of his speaking out of his right to live?

Or is the right to life after birth a privilege in the eyes of the Right?
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Has nothing to do with what I'm saying or what's being said by the OP. Not sure if I fit the label of 'the Right', so you'd need to ask someone else.

Strawman to distract from the hypocrisy.
 
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Hatuey said:
Lmao, stick to their guns.... what guns? Not receiving the money that makes sure Ingraham can even have a contract? Who do you think signs her checks? Ruppert Murdoch's skeleton fingers? Nope.

It is companies who want their logo on her show. Ingraham made fun of David Hogg not getting into school as a cheap shot. He posted her advertisers and people let them hear their thoughts; they made a choice. She did too. Try sticking to your guns when you can't keep the lights at the studio on.

Sent from a memo written by Nunes and edited by Trump.
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And until they continue on and take other advertisers, it will never stop and just move on to progressively lower and lower levels of fake offense. Run the shows, if the ratings are high, advertisers will fill it.
 
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Rogue Valley said:
I can't find any Tweet by McCain on that page.
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So what?
 
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Cardinal said:
Agree with him or disagree with him, it's not his style to gratuitously piss people off, let alone mock the teenage survivor of a massacre. You're thinking of the new Republican party.
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This Googly Eyed Neo-Fascist is not acting as a victim he is acting as a Greasy Opportunist standing on the graves of real victims.

Im a combat vet and a former law enforcement & correctional officer. I heve been in situations a lot more dangerous than even the worst of the multiple changing versions of events Hogg claimed to have faced.

I would never use my status as Vet or X-Cop to shield myself from critisim in a political debate and I have no respect for those who do.
 
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Casca XV said:
This Googly Eyed Neo-Fascist is not acting as a victim he is acting as a Greasy Opportunist standing on the graves of real victims.

Im a combat vet and a former law enforcement & correctional officer. I heve been in situations a lot more dangerous than even the worst of the multiple changing versions of events Hogg claimed to have faced.

I would never use my status as Vet or X-Cop to shield myself from critisim in a political debate and I have no respect for those who do.
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Thank you for serving.
Hogg seems very much at ease being exploited by the Left. I wonder how he'll cope when the cameras and Craft Services go away.
 
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Cardinal said:
Speaking for myself here: For the first time ever (starting a few weeks ago), I seriously advocated for repeal of the 2nd Amendment. This was out of a frustration with gun rights activists for holding to the belief that they are not required to negotiate on gun control measures to any degree. More to the point, they behave with the entitled view that they don't even need to participate seriously in such a discussion. My goal in repealing the 2A is that it would force gun rights activists to the table and actually negotiate. As it stands, they stand comfortably shielded behind the 2nd Amendment and give nothing. If they relented on certain measures, my talk of repealing the 2A would dry up instantly, and considering that such a suggestion is creeping into the mainstream, I don't think I'm alone. And yet, for all our frustration, we're still not at the point of talking about banning guns.

If a comic book ever writes my villain origin story, it'll focus on the day that the NRA sued Florida over its gun control law. When I saw that headline I thought, "Oh, well that's the problem then. The 2nd Amendment has to go."
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What the f.......??!?!?!?

Nah, I get it. You bring up a fantastic point. I never considered a threat to repeal as an attempt for gun owners to do something, ...anything!

You are absolutely right. Gun owners ("gun rights activists") do have a responsibility, no, an obligation to defend the Second Amendment properly. Instead they drink that NRA/GOP kool-aid that instructs them that "liberals" just want their guns so they essentially insist on anarchy.

However this is March of 2018. The Constitution was ratified in June of 1788. For 230 years, Americans have had the Right to "own and bear arms." To this day, you may legally purchase an AR-15, which is a civilianized version of the military's M-16 Assault Rifle (hardly a single-shot musket). It seems simple to me:

- No diagnosed mentally-ill person may handle/purchase a firearm (Sandy Hook, Aurora, and Florida)
- Be 21 (arbitrary age of decision)
- A clearly understood separation of military/civilian weaponry

Who does this hurt? There is no argument that anybody on the planet can produce that will legitimize a defense against such simple guidelines. America's Second Amendment used to be romanticized. Even in Red Dawn it was used to illustrate defense against foreign invasion. But today? We are just a bunch of dumb asses imagining government dominance, illegal immigrants from Mexico, Muslim terrorism, and LIBERALS!!! And this garbage is very much a Fox News game.

But, like you alluded to, we have not seen enough dead elementary, high school, and concert goers die for us to really talk about it. I don't know what "responsible" gun owners are waiting for. We are fools and our youth are figuring that out. Such is the course of history.
 
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Acadia said:
The NRA's contributions are transparent. Taken down by the gun lobby? How about being taken down by failed school policies?
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I didn't say taken down by the gun lobby, I said take down the gun lobby.

And if you're bagging on this kids education, a 4.1 weighted GPA is a good score. What is your point?
 
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Thoreau72 said:
I think the right is more amused than worried. Script reader Hogg has already tripped and will likely take a major fall before too long.
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Ohhh...a major fall? You don't say! Tell me more!
 
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Lerxst said:
I didn't say taken down by the gun lobby, I said take down the gun lobby.

And if you're bagging on this kids education, a 4.1 weighted GPA is a good score. What is your point?
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What's YOUR point? I didn't bring up his GPA, which is pretty good.:roll:
 
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JoeTrumps said:
Like I said brain dead, I didn't have a problem with the guy going after McCain, only that McCain is supposed to be out of bounds due to illness(at least that is the excuse the media uses whenever Trump mentions his name for screwing the GOP on Obamacare repeal). So how is it ok for this dumb twirp to go after McCain? He said republicans are sick ****s with childrens blood on his hands(last time I remember McCain is a Republican genius) and then makes a point to single him out now? But he's not "going after" McCain in your fantasy world, is that it? He's a bomb thrower and a shill for the left at this point. Maybe his intentions were good at first, I'll admit that. but I stand behind what I said.
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Joe, grab a tissue and wipe up your tears. If you weren't such an overly sensitive snowflake you'd understand that asking McCain why he takes money from the NRA isn't "going after" him. It's a question. No wonder you like Trump, you're both a couple of cowards at heart.

Hogg means nothing to me, as I'm against gun bans or increased gun control efforts (they don't work and it's wasted energy). But all he did was ask a question and you pissed all over yourself trying to make a big deal about it. You're so morally bankrupt that you are actually trying to compare Trump's attacks on McCain's military service and disability to Hogg asking him why he takes money from the NRA.

Go take a shower, Joe...you're stinking up the place.
 
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Mycroft said:
Hogg is using that combination of tactics that is so loved by the left nowadays: Snark and deflection.
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The left? Have you ever heard of @realDonaldTrump?
 
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