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Trump, back on Twitter, vows 2nd Amendment 'will never be repealed'

No one can ever say an 'Amendment' will not be changed especially given that it is in itself a change, hence 'Amendment' , already.
 
apdst said:
1. Do you support gun control to any extent?
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I really have no opinion good or bad on background checks and registration because they don’t affect me in any way and I’ve gotten used to them as “routine” like the TSA at airports, but I understand folks like turtledude that think we shouldn’t have them. Maybe I’m just desensitized in that way. However I don’t believe in any gun bans.

2. If yes, how far will you let it go before you draw the line and say enough is enough to the point that you make your opinion known at the ballot box?
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I don’t believe in gun bans and if it ever makes its way to the ballot box in Nevada I have no problem voting against the specific issue of gun bans. But we are an open carry state so that hasn’t happened yet.
 
Kiwimac said:
No one can ever say an 'Amendment' will not be changed especially given that it is in itself a change, hence 'Amendment' , already.
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True but I think right now is safe to say you’d have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting the second amendment repealed.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
You're lying.

There are white nationalists who could be considered conservatives but their numbers are minuscule. They have no ability to influence policy or platform.
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*looks at the current administration*

Yyyeaaah keep telling yourself that.
 
apdst said:
1. Do you support gun control to any extent?

2. If yes, how far will you let it go before you draw the line and say enough is enough to the point that you make your opinion known at the ballot box?
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Fair enough questions:

1. Of course, and so do you. Unless you think that a thirteen year old may purchase firearms or that civilians have the Right to automatic rifles and hand grenades or that anybody should be able to carry without permits and anywhere they please, you also believe in gun control. Gun control is a term that has become politicized in itself; and people who define it towards confiscation or Second Amendment repeal is missing the point of our reality. For example, you may purchase in Virginia at age 18. However, you may not get a carry permit in Virginia until you are 21. That is gun control. By the way, notice how the NRA only cares about your Right to "bear" when it comes to the ability to purchase at 18. They don't care that you cannot "bear" until 21 as long as you can purchase at 18. What does that say? This alone, despite the country offering many examples, should be enough to make you question the NRA's benevolence towards our Right and whether or not they are doing what they are supposed to be doing.

2. The line has been drawn for decades; and that line defines the extent of that gun control. The slippery slope argument is bunk. For example, the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act was created in 1994 (expired in 2004). That was almost twenty-five years ago and between 2004 and 2018 Democrats didn't go back to that well. Where's the slippery slope? But had responsible gun owners insisted that something substantial be done about the mental illness issue after Sandy Hook, maybe Aurora and Florida would not have happened and we wouldn't be here today looking for another line to draw. Or if responsible gun owners insisted that something substantial be done about bump fires/stocks after Vegas, which is a way to work around that automatic weapon's ban, perhaps Vegas would have saw far less than 600 people shot. It's this complacency that has angered so many people and has provided unnecessary fuel towards the anti-gun crowd. Notice, that companies didn't distance from the NRA or that hundreds of thousands of people didn't march in Washington after Sandy Hook, Aurora, or Vegas. They are now! This means that the argument that "they are coming for our guns" has always been bunk. But they are fed up after Florida, aren't they? I don't blame those who "hate" guns. I blame us.


The problem with the ballot box, in this regard, is that you can't fully trust the Democrats, despite the Democrats having no real history of even trying to repeal, and you can't trust the GOP because they are proven to be NRA lap dogs who actually opposed the Democrats' wish to address the bump stock/fire issue even after Vegas last year. The slippery slope argument is an excuse to do nothing; and this is exactly why these high profile mass shooting are exponentially growing. In the end, nobody up there in Washington is actually looking out for the Second Amendment as they kick the can forward and towards today's underage demonstrators who are tomorrow's law makers.

I have argued and argued: fix it now, or they will fix it tomorrow after enough have been slaughtered. They aren't to blame.
 
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Deuce said:
*looks at the current administration*

Yyyeaaah keep telling yourself that.
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Unfortunately, he is somewhat right. It wasn't the white nationalists that got Trump elected. That douchery would have voted Republican no matter what. Their brand of nationalism, racism, and sexism comfortably sits on the Right.

It was the mass of former social/fiscal Conservatives who were behaving irrationally (as ordered by Fox News for eight years), the Democrats who abstained against Hillary Clinton in certain states, and the swing voters throughout the country, who were torn between crap and crud, that saw Trump squeak by.
 
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JacksinPA said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...-2nd-amendment-will-never-be-repealed-n860661

President Donald Trump broke his brief hiatus from Twitter on Wednesday morning, posting that the Second Amendment “will never be repealed,” in response to a recent editorial by a former Supreme Court justice.

"THE SECOND AMENDMENT WILL NEVER BE REPEALED! As much as Democrats would like to see this happen, and despite the words yesterday of former Supreme Court Justice Stevens, NO WAY," Trump tweeted.
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Not unexpected, Trump sucks up publicly to the NRA & their gun-owning membership as well as the Russians who used the NRA to meddle in the 2016 election.
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What a dumb ass tweet.

Of course the 2nd amendment is not going to be repealed. Well not anytime soon anyway. May as well vow that the sky shall remain blue.
 
And once again, he is correct. Why do you lebs get all verklempt about the truth?
JacksinPA said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...-2nd-amendment-will-never-be-repealed-n860661

President Donald Trump broke his brief hiatus from Twitter on Wednesday morning, posting that the Second Amendment “will never be repealed,” in response to a recent editorial by a former Supreme Court justice.

"THE SECOND AMENDMENT WILL NEVER BE REPEALED! As much as Democrats would like to see this happen, and despite the words yesterday of former Supreme Court Justice Stevens, NO WAY," Trump tweeted.
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Not unexpected, Trump sucks up publicly to the NRA & their gun-owning membership as well as the Russians who used the NRA to meddle in the 2016 election.
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MSgt said:
Unfortunately, he is somewhat right. It wasn't the white nationalists that got Trump elected. That douchery would have voted Republican no matter what. Their brand of nationalism, racism, and sexism comfortably sits on the Right.

It was the mass of former social/fiscal Conservatives who were behaving irrationally (as ordered by Fox News for eight years), the Democrats who abstained against Hillary Clinton in certain states, and the swing voters throughout the country, who were torn between crap and crud, that saw Trump squeak by.
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White nationalists don't have to be the biggest voting bloc to affect policy. When white nationalists are appointed to positions of high power, they clearly have policy influence.
 
Deuce said:
White nationalists don't have to be the biggest voting bloc to affect policy. When white nationalists are appointed to positions of high power, they clearly have policy influence.
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Sure, but are you talking about Steve Bannon? He was swiftly tossed aside after he was used for votes. He influenced nothing. I can't think of another white nationalist before him.
 
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