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Reno student suspended after call to Nevada congressman [W:69]

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Never mind.
 
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If it is a public school and he wasn’t on school grounds during school hours then it is none of the school’s damn business. If the parents want to punish him then ok but the school crosses a line if the story is accurate.

So if I take a middle school basketball team to an event, they can run wild I'm I'm to do nothing about it?

Clearly you have NEVER been a teacher, or worked in a public school.
 
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Trump had something to do with this?

Are you of the opinion that kids don't try to follow the example of leaders, whoever they may feel the leader is? Read up:

A Quinnipiac Poll found 67 percent of voters believe Trump is not a good role model, compared to 29 percent who say he is. In total, 90 percent of voters say it’s important for the president to be a good role model. Republicans are the only group that believes Trump sets a good example, the poll found, with 72 percent saying he is a good role model for kids.
 
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Gosh, if only you could stick to the topic, which is not Trump.

Are you of the opinion that the conduct of the president doesn't have any effect on kids? On top of the several news stories you can Google about teachers noticing a marked rise in racist behavior among students since Trump's election, there's this from only two months ago:

A Quinnipiac Poll found 67 percent of voters believe Trump is not a good role model, compared to 29 percent who say he is. In total, 90 percent of voters say it’s important for the president to be a good role model. Republicans are the only group that believes Trump sets a good example, the poll found, with 72 percent saying he is a good role model for kids.
 
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hmmmm

seems theres confusion.

If he did it on school grounds during school time he very well could be punished for it and thats fine by me if he in fact broke rules/conduct code etc.

if that didnt happen then the school WAY over stepped thier bounds and as a parent i would do anything and everything i could to put them back in bounds (but again it seems THIS wasnt the case)

the other issue i have with it and sadly this is part of todays world has has a parent i would want to know its true. Now its different for everybody, but in general my daughter wasnt a liar, she told some lies in her life but she wasnt a liar. if she insisted she didnt act that way or cuss etc me and the school would again have a problem, without evidence and her being punished on the word of a third party would work for me.
 
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Are you of the opinion that kids don't try to follow the example of leaders, whoever they may feel the leader is? Read up:

A Quinnipiac Poll found 67 percent of voters believe Trump is not a good role model, compared to 29 percent who say he is. In total, 90 percent of voters say it’s important for the president to be a good role model. Republicans are the only group that believes Trump sets a good example, the poll found, with 72 percent saying he is a good role model for kids.

As related to this particular thread, I'm of the opinion that President Trump had nothing to with something that happened in a school in Nevada.

You may have some thoughts that would make for an interesting thread. This isn't that thread.
 
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It’s a lesson this pre-antifa student needs to learn. You don’t call people and unload on them just because you are inhappy.

The simple fact that you are using trigger words to describe the situation makes it pretty clear that you would be fine with such a call if the kid's politics leaned right and he was calling a dem congressman.
 
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Gosh, if only you could stick to the topic, which is not Trump.

sorry that you are embarrassed by YOUR president.
 
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Which brings up the question. Why are political walkouts official school functions?


When people die needlessly, it's going to get political.
 
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The simple fact that you are using trigger words to describe the situation makes it pretty clear that you would be fine with such a call if the kid's politics leaned right and he was calling a dem congressman.

Nope. I believe in letting the adults be adults and the kids be kids. Young people are exploited by adult leaders who make complicated problems seem solvable with simple answers. They aren't. Been there, done that*. You don't have the gift of skepticism at that age. You are trained to do what the teacher says. And it's implied that your grades are held hostage and if you plan to go to college, you'd better have the grades.

BTW, given today's data systems, being AstroTrufed at such an early age is the first page in his adult political profile.

* When I was in college, Prez Johnson's Great Society and War on Poverty for example. As a bright young college student, I believed that at the stroke of a pen the black race's problems were mostly over, and a new black middle class would grow and their poverty would abate. It was all so simple. I wrote papers on it and got A's because I believed. I ignored the naysayers who argued that such a perfect solution as one that would not work as designed and the cure was worse than the disease.
 
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Nope. I believe in letting the adults be adults and the kids be kids. Young people are exploited by adult leaders who make complicated problems seem solvable with simple answers. They aren't. Been there, done that*. You don't have the gift of skepticism at that age. You are trained to do what the teacher says. And it's implied that your grades are held hostage and if you plan to go to college, you'd better have the grades.

BTW, given today's data systems, being AstroTrufed at such an early age is the first page in his adult political profile.

* When I was in college, Prez Johnson's Great Society and War on Poverty for example. As a bright young college student, I believed that at the stroke of a pen the black race's problems were mostly over, and a new black middle class would grow and their poverty would abate. It was all so simple. I wrote papers on it and got A's because I believed. I ignored the naysayers who argued that such a perfect solution as one that would not work as designed and the cure was worse than the disease.

In other words, when you don't like a kid's opinion you instantly believe they are pawns of adults.
 
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As related to this particular thread, I'm of the opinion that President Trump had nothing to with something that happened in a school in Nevada.

You may have some thoughts that would make for an interesting thread. This isn't that thread.

The old saying goes, "fix the problem, not the blame". Should we blame the kids? Or should we blame those who are setting the example for those kids? And who is it that is normally the single most influential being on the planet when it comes to setting an example for the behavior of American kids?
 
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The old saying goes, "fix the problem, not the blame". Should we blame the kids? Or should we blame those who are setting the example for those kids? And who is it that is normally the single most influential being on the planet when it comes to setting an example for the behavior of American kids?

So, start a thread.
 
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My understanding is that the student was not on school grounds or under the supervision of the school when he did this, which is why I don't think they should have disciplined him.
The article doesn't make that clear, so perhaps I'm wrong.

Outside that, I don't think anyone should be disciplined for swearing at their representatives.

Foul language is protected speech. Using foul language when calling your Congressman is similarly protected speech - there was a similar case a couple of years ago.
 
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If only y'all could teach the current resident of the White House about what's wrong with being rude and disrespectful to others on a daily basis....

Or we could elected someone polite, who spends 8 years ****ing the country over and fomenting racial tension. Oh wait...we did!
 
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It is a disgrace that the school gives into the complaints of some whiny snowflake politicians and his snowflake employees who were so "shocked" by the use of get off you "****ing asses" that they had to lodge a complaint at the school.

Also, the kid was right, they should get off their ****ing asses.

If it was legitimately school-related...how would the school react if a student confronted a teacher that way in the classroom?

The punishment seems reasonable.
 
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Foul language is protected speech. Using foul language when calling your Congressman is similarly protected speech - there was a similar case a couple of years ago.

It's about manners and appropriate behavior. Not the law. Minors, and minors in schools, do not have full rights anyway. But we do task schools and certainly parents with molding appropriate behavior in society.

But again...that is unacceptable speech and behavior...would it be acceptable if the kid did it in the classroom to a teacher?


IMO, such behavior in a minor should be disciplined...either by the school or parents.

In this case, a 2nd valuable lesson that the kid can learn is that while you do have a right to free speech, it only protects you from the govt but you still may pay consequences in real life.

Thanks for that reminder.
 
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sorry that you are embarrassed by YOUR president.

Our President, and word to the wise: This thread isn't going to be hijacked.
 
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If it was legitimately school-related...how would the school react if a student confronted a teacher that way in the classroom?

The punishment seems reasonable.

except he was not saying it to a teacher, he did not do this as part of a school assignment IMHO, he just gave a very forceful view that the politicians need to get off their ****ing asses. It is not like he used it to offend the elected official by calling him a weak ass ****. But even then it was a weak reaction to report him to his school. If he wanted to rat the kid out to his parents, fine, they are his parents and will decide whether or not he needed to be punished. But being a cowardly whiny little loser to complain to his school is just pathetic.

I am sorry but I do not see what the obsession is in the US with swear words, on most shows, even at 23.00 hours, the late night shows they are not allowed to say the f-word which is incredibly ridiculous IMHO. Are the snowflakes who cannot hear or accept a swear so powerful that it is banned to swear (or at least bleeped away) but when really bad words or horrendous comments are made, that is freedom of speech.

IMHO, swearing is freedom of speech too.

And I think it is a pathetic action of the office of the elected official to go tattle to the school, more snowflake cowards, not willing to stand up to schoolkids or the NRA but behind their backs they rat the out to the school, shows how much of a bunch of pathetic snowflakes that elected official and his staff are.

**** is not a bad word, here nobody is bleeped for using it. Most kids will know if before they are 12 (or much much earlier) so I do not know why the US television is that obsessed about that word.

At least that is my opinion.
 
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It's about manners and appropriate behavior. Not the law. Minors, and minors in schools, do not have full rights anyway. But we do task schools and certainly parents with molding appropriate behavior in society.

But again...that is unacceptable speech and behavior...would it be acceptable if the kid did it in the classroom to a teacher?


IMO, such behavior in a minor should be disciplined...either by the school or parents.

In this case, a 2nd valuable lesson that the kid can learn is that while you do have a right to free speech, it only protects you from the govt but you still may pay consequences in real life.

Thanks for that reminder.

And schools--even universities--have civility codes that cover foul-mouthed and/or abusive language.
 
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except he was not saying it to a teacher, he did not do this as part of a school assignment IMHO, he just gave a very forceful view that the politicians need to get off their ****ing asses. It is not like he used it to offend the elected official by calling him a weak ass ****. But even then it was a weak reaction to report him to his school. If he wanted to rat the kid out to his parents, fine, they are his parents and will decide whether or not he needed to be punished. But being a cowardly whiny little loser to complain to his school is just pathetic.

I am sorry but I do not see what the obsession is in the US with swear words, on most shows, even at 23.00 hours, the late night shows they are not allowed to say the f-word which is incredibly ridiculous IMHO. Are the snowflakes who cannot hear or accept a swear so powerful that it is banned to swear (or at least bleeped away) but when really bad words or horrendous comments are made, that is freedom of speech.

IMHO, swearing is freedom of speech too.

And I think it is a pathetic action of the office of the elected official to go tattle to the school, more snowflake cowards, not willing to stand up to schoolkids or the NRA but behind their backs they rat the out to the school, shows how much of a bunch of pathetic snowflakes that elected official and his staff are.

**** is not a bad word, here nobody is bleeped for using it. Most kids will know if before they are 12 (or much much earlier) so I do not know why the US television is that obsessed about that word.

At least that is my opinion.
As a rule, schools and many parents find swear words unacceptable and it does no kid any good to be raised differently, as when they go out into the working world, it will be a reflection on them in a few ways, all negative.

Edit: lol and that's exactly what he found: a negative reaction and negative consequences.

Trying to raise kids properly or mold societally positive behavior does not make one a snowflake.

Of course your parenting is up to you.
 
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