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Stormy Daniels' lawyer fires 'warning shot' with mysterious DVD he says 'contains evidence'

Did I read this right did you say her Motives are NOBLE?

She stated, she chose to have Consensual un protected sex, with a maried man, going into his home in full knowledge that she would be part of his infidelity. In what way is any of this NOBLE? BOTH Daniels and Trump if any of this is TRUE?

If its not true, that even more so NOBLE? I dont condone any of these actions, BUT this happened 12 years ago, well before he even thought of being President, EVERYONE has skeletons in their closets, From Kobe, Woods, to Trump, to ARRNOLD .... all scum bags... But still FREAKING amazing at their respective jobs.

Hate Trump for cheating on 2 of his wives and a 3rd no surprise.... But the man is trying to fulfill his campaign promises that he made for the people that elected him. Honestly dont give a crap who he bangs..... And Melania on a H1B Visa acting like she has no idea that he divorced 2 times prior for cheating? Yeah she aint that dumb...


You can hate the guy all you want... but there is NOTHING NOBLE about this WHOLE thing, BOTH sides period.

A noble porn star? Sure. :roll:

That shyster she's got is either doing this pro bono just for the street cred of hitting Trump or he's getting paid by a third party.

You did not read it right. I said her motives were more noble than simply being in it for the money. When it is zero degrees in the morning and 15 at noon, it would be correct to say its getting warmer, but not correct to say that is warm. So your whole narrative of being outraged that I said Stormy is noble is a giant fail, since I never said that.....

Again, I just stated that she wants something more than money or fame. I believe what she wants is a degree of vindication for being silenced and harassed. I think she wants the world to see Trump as a thug.

I am glad you have such low standards for your leaders. Keep in mind that a large majority of Americans (57%) think Trump is unfit for office. That is NOT an approval rating, but a determination that he is incompetent. As long as most of the country believes he is unfit, he will have to face daily challenges to his character, intellect and mental health. It is Trump's job to show he capable of being president by showing an the ability to multi-task, by showing the ability to be accountable for his actions, by showing that he does not get rattled under pressure, by showing he is a man of his word, by showing he can take the criticism that comes with the job like a man. In that regard he is failing miserably.

As for the quality of Stormy's attorney, I suggest you are not reading the score card correctly. Stormy's attorney is major league (not to mention a pretty interesting guy,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Avenatti

while Trump choses to defend himself with guys that struggle at A-ball.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-10/trump-s-legal-team-is-no-match-for-mueller-s
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03/donald-trump-legal-team-john-dowd-robert-mueller

In fairness to Trump, however, he has tried to get good counsel, they just won't work for him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...053ba58f1e4_story.html?utm_term=.8d4423faa4d4

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/06/06/why-no-lawyers-will-represent-trump/

Interesting that Aurora theatre shooter was able to obtain a first rate defense, but no one will defend the President of the US. What does that say?
 
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You did not read it right. I said her motives were more noble than simply being in it for the money. ......

Again, I just stated that she wants something more than money or fame. I believe what she wants is a degree of vindication for being silenced and harassed. I think she wants the world to see Trump as a thug.

I am glad you have such low standards for your leaders. Keep in mind that a large majority of Americans (57%) think Trump is unfit for office. That is NOT an approval rating, but a determination that he is incompetent. As long as most of the country believes he is unfit, he will have to face daily challenges to his character, intellect and mental health. It is Trump's job to show he capable of being president by showing an the ability to multi-task, by showing the ability to be accountable for his actions, by showing that he does not get rattled under pressure, by showing he is a man of his word, by showing he can take the criticism that comes with the job like a man. In that regard he is failing miserably.

As for the quality of Stormy's attorney,


First off, I did read your point... her motive, her vindication. Not for money.... Lets all try that one more time.

1) SHE KNOWINGLY had an extramarital affair, with a powerful man. She knew ALL she needed to know about Trump
2) SHE accepted $130,000 from the lawyer, regardless if it was or was not related. Meaning SHE TOOK the money so it WAS for money.
3) Hind sight is 20/20 she WOULD give it back now trying to back track
4) She is releasing a book, she is on TV.... she got a 60minutes with Anderson cooper... Really? Not for fame?
5) Vindication of WHAT, This happened in 2006, she even admitted it was consensual. Her silence was based on the NDA that she is trying to GET out of. There is no vindication of someone that knowingly committed adultery I dont buy it.

There are 13 women that accused Trump of Unwanted sexual advances. That is a bigger story, then a women that had CONSENSUAL sex with him. Hell the McDougal girl "loved" Trump and was ACTUALLY attracted to him. I would rather hear from the women that did NOT want trump as he may have actually committed a crime. Not consensual infidelity. There is NO NOBEL cause period.


I dont care about either sides lawyers totally irrelevant, as the only thing that matters to me is the TRUTH, you can have a crap lawyer or the most expensive, but the truth only matters.


Finally low standards for leaders? NO This is 2 parts.

I dont like trump personally, I have said it many times. he is a Scumbag. But he ran on campaign promises that I agree with and if he is going to fulfill my political beliefs I would choose him over another candidate like HRC because maybe I didnt have problem with her but in no way do I agree with her leadership for the country. PERIOD.

So I can say I am of 57% that he is unfit for the office specifically that he doesnt represent the "presidency" as a professional. BUT can he fulfill the JOB in itself. Sure he can and he seems to be doing so, from Taxes, to immigration, to american safety and more so american well being.


I see the hypocrites across the board, Tiger Woods, HUGE scandal, Amazing and probably will be known as one of the Greatest golfers in modern times. Should he be barred from the sport, 14 majors be stripped, Removed from the Ryder Cup and Presidents cup as he does NOT represent the American people well as a "playboy" and a cheater?

What about Kobe, and his time as a Professional basketball player.

What about Arnold Schwarzenegger. How was he the Governor of California after banging a maid.....

You can HATE trump, I Hate trump for his arrogance, his tweeting, But again, I voted because he can fulfill my political beliefs.

This is just making me realize how much true hypocrisy there is in this nation to demonize this man, for his flaws and he has many, BUT yet, capable of fulfilling the duties, while not professional and eloquent like JFK or Obama, but it its basic no BS get his political agenda done. IF you dont like him rally and vote him out in 2020.





*Edit* I stand in the spotlight for that moment,


I know for a FACT I have flaws, moral and physical, YET, could I still be a good Father, a Good Husband, a Good Worker. I sure can be. Could I cheat, or break the laws, SURE I can but still be capable of being a hard worker and a good Human.


Trump is arrogant, he is a scrum bag in the moral facet, BUT Fufill the duties of the president, other than not being the most professional of that. HE seems to be doing what the constitution required of him. Enforce Existing laws, Protect American's and propose to congress laws to make our nation better.
 
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Did I read this right did you say her Motives are NOBLE?

She stated, she chose to have Consensual un protected sex, with a maried man, going into his home in full knowledge that she would be part of his infidelity. In what way is any of this NOBLE? BOTH Daniels and Trump if any of this is TRUE?

If its not true, that even more so NOBLE? I dont condone any of these actions, BUT this happened 12 years ago, well before he even thought of being President, EVERYONE has skeletons in their closets, From Kobe, Woods, to Trump, to ARRNOLD .... all scum bags... But still FREAKING amazing at their respective jobs.

Hate Trump for cheating on 2 of his wives and a 3rd no surprise.... But the man is trying to fulfill his campaign promises that he made for the people that elected him. Honestly dont give a crap who he bangs..... And Melania on a H1B Visa acting like she has no idea that he divorced 2 times prior for cheating? Yeah she aint that dumb...


You can hate the guy all you want... but there is NOTHING NOBLE about this WHOLE thing, BOTH sides period.

This has nothing to do with the affair, it's about the cover up. I don't know why the right is focusing on the fact that he had sex with her, they've both basically admitted to that.
 
First off, I did read your point... her motive, her vindication. Not for money.... Lets all try that one more time.

1) SHE KNOWINGLY had an extramarital affair, with a powerful man. She knew ALL she needed to know about Trump
2) SHE accepted $130,000 from the lawyer, regardless if it was or was not related. Meaning SHE TOOK the money so it WAS for money.
3) Hind sight is 20/20 she WOULD give it back now trying to back track
4) She is releasing a book, she is on TV.... she got a 60minutes with Anderson cooper... Really? Not for fame?
5) Vindication of WHAT, This happened in 2006, she even admitted it was consensual. Her silence was based on the NDA that she is trying to GET out of. There is no vindication of someone that knowingly committed adultery I dont buy it.

She clearly isn't doing this for money:

1. Why would she be coming out with this now if she was doing it for the money? She would've had way more publicity back during the election, yet she denied it. It makes no sense for her to come out with this now, of all times, except given the narrative she has provided: Michael Cohen broke the story.

2. If she was in it just for the money, why has she offered to return the $130,000?

3. If she was just in it for the money, why would she go on 60 minutes, for free, instead of selling the story to another news agency for hundreds of thousands or even a million plus dollars?
 
This has nothing to do with the affair, it's about the cover up. I don't know why the right is focusing on the fact that he had sex with her, they've both basically admitted to that.

Cover up is NOT illegal. There was an NDA. and money passed that is the situation. BUT trump HAS in fact denied at this time. We shall see what the TRUTH is. BUT regardless, OK so Trump banged a Porn start 12 years ago? Just like trump saying he would just grab them by the you know what years ago. Does that make him any different from today an incapable of doing his job RIGHT now?

I dont see that as an issue at this point. THIS to me this WHOLE thing is a bunch of BS.... HE banged a pornstar.... and a playboy model..... while he was married....OOOHHH Shocker...I can die happy now...

OOOHH he had an NDA, of course he would... like him having a Prenuptial Agreement etc... CYA.... Nothing Illegal or criminal. Moral Dirt bag... but was not getting a BJ in the Oval Office while a sitting president YET........ So it irrelevant to his CURRENT position.
 
She clearly isn't doing this for money:

1. Why would she be coming out with this now if she was doing it for the money? She would've had way more publicity back during the election, yet she denied it. It makes no sense for her to come out with this now, of all times, except given the narrative she has provided: Michael Cohen broke the story.

2. If she was in it just for the money, why has she offered to return the $130,000?

3. If she was just in it for the money, why would she go on 60 minutes, for free, instead of selling the story to another news agency for hundreds of thousands or even a million plus dollars?

Clearly? I really dont know clearly. Because this happened 12 years ago and had her fame in 2011 to show case this... Why now.

Secondly again... IT was Consensual Morally terrible but NOT illegal, WHY does she get TV time and NOT the ones that are accusing him of an ACTUAL CRIME. If he did infact touch a women inappropriately against their WILL, I would rather HEAR from them! not a consensual pornstar or playboy model.

Returning the money is HIND SIGHT back tracking, to win favor in your object view.... why would you NOT, offer to return the money?

She has a BOOK deal already.... THAT is why..... YOU WANT Exposure, and smart marketing person and more so CNN WANTED to cover it...Anderson's Last ditch effort before losing his TV time to Chris Cuomo.


60 minutes does it for free, (Doesnt Cost anything) Daniels get a FULL SPOT on national TV doesnt cost her ANYTHING but free marketing exposure.


AGAIN..... If its such a "Scandal" Why do we not help the 13 women that claimed he abused them instead THATS an actual CRIME. being immoral is not. Its STUPID. like I have said he is...
 
Cover up is NOT illegal.

Anyone that has even tangentially been following this story knows that one central question is whether Cohen violated federal election laws by making an unlawful in kind contribution to the Trump campaign through the hush money payment.

There was an NDA. and money passed that is the situation. BUT trump HAS in fact denied at this time.

If it didn't happen, why was there an NDA?

If it did happen, then Trump is lying to you. If he's lying to you about this, what else has he lied about? His campaign promises maybe?

I dont see that as an issue at this point. THIS to me this WHOLE thing is a bunch of BS.... HE banged a pornstar.... and a playboy model..... while he was married....OOOHHH Shocker...I can die happy now...

Again..."This has nothing to do with the affair, it's about the cover up."

Returning the money is HIND SIGHT back tracking, to win favor in your object view.... why would you NOT, offer to return the money?

So does she want favor, or money? Because you claimed the latter...

She has a BOOK deal already.... THAT is why..... YOU WANT Exposure, and smart marketing person and more so CNN WANTED to cover it...Anderson's Last ditch effort before losing his TV time to Chris Cuomo.

You keep saying there is a book deal, yet there isn't...

60 minutes does it for free, (Doesnt Cost anything) Daniels get a FULL SPOT on national TV doesnt cost her ANYTHING but free marketing exposure.

You must have misunderstood me (i.e. are dense). She could've sold her story to a news outlet for hundreds of thousands, perhaps over a million. She would've gotten money and publicity on another nationally syndicated show. Yet she went on 60 minutes and didn't get a cent for it. If she's in it for the money, why would she do this?

Your long meandering rambles aren't even addressing the central points of this scandal.
 
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Not with complete confidence, but even though Trump does and says stupid ****, he's not stupid enough to fire Mueller.

He fired Comey claiming it was due to the recommendation of the DOJ and then contradicted himself in a national interview days later claiming it was all about Comey refusing to shut down the Russia investigation.

Trump is not that smart, IMO.
 
Anyone that has even tangentially been following this story knows that one central question is whether Cohen violated federal election laws by making an unlawful in kind contribution to the Trump campaign through the hush money payment.



If it didn't happen, why was there an NDA?

If it did happen, then Trump is lying to you. If he's lying to you about this, what else has he lied about? His campaign promises maybe?



Again..."This has nothing to do with the affair, it's about the cover up."



So does she want favor, or money? Because you claimed the latter...



You keep saying there is a book deal, yet there isn't...



You must have misunderstood me (i.e. are dense). She could've sold her story to a news outlet for hundreds of thousands, perhaps over a million. She would've gotten money and publicity on another nationally syndicated show. Yet she went on 60 minutes and didn't get a cent for it. If she's in it for the money, why would she do this?

Your long meandering rambles aren't even addressing the central points of this scandal.


First off, let me say I am not disagreeing with you in entirety, I just see this as really really weird... that being said.

1) Gotcha, YES but that is different, That is specific to Cohen's action and can it be tied to trump? As per Cohen he said he did it on his own. We shall see though if that actually sticks. As what would be really dumb is if it traced

2) NDA already admits something.... We just dont know what it actually is about.
2a) Daniels admitted once it didnt happen. then changed her mind, Trump has always said it didnt happen. What really is happening?
2b) Trump lying about banging a pornstar 12 years ago does not affect his 2016 campaign promises that he is currently DOING.... from my perspective.

3) To your point, I stand correct you are right.... "cover up" IF there is one in relation to your first point. I can agree.

4) Honestly, I dont really know what she wants. But the assumption is she wants some type of exposure. be it through fame or money. As a women.... and even McDougal said it. If Melania is watching all this... What would she say to Melania, I mean what women wants to ruin another persons life? If not for personal gain..... I dont know Its all ASSUMPTIONS on both sides...


5) Sorry I keep hearing book deal too, let me get back to you, I Am PROBABLY wrong... but I heard it, BRB on this.

6) No I gottcha, Its funny how we look at the "Glass". What I mean is, Usually when you want TV time you PAY for it no? But if you are a news breaker, you might pay someone for the news. So Daniels has 2 options.
She could Try to sell her story if its News worthy, which personally I think its a sham. Or the TV outlets could come to her for the story right?
6a) So say some no news channel offered her money, But she wanted HUGE TV exposure Like 60 minutes... thats a pretty darn top shelf broadcast NO? Why NOT just appear on a regular news report like AC360 or the View etc. NO she wants that exposure. If not why not just a normal run of the mill interview on a regular TV spot,
6b) Who is to say someone is NOT already paying her for coming out and doing this???


Sorry my apologies for the Rambles, I am trying to work in between post and I get distracted LOL!


Anyways I DO agree with the potential Campaign violation IF it was in fact true.... the question though is it true. Cover up, well Trump being trump yeah... cover up not really. I think the HRC/DNC funding a Law Firm for services rendered to pay Fusion GPS, for GPS to pay Steele for steel to pay Russian informants, is something similar no>?
 
First off, let me say I am not disagreeing with you in entirety, I just see this as really really weird... that being said.

1) Gotcha, YES but that is different, That is specific to Cohen's action and can it be tied to trump? As per Cohen he said he did it on his own. We shall see though if that actually sticks. As what would be really dumb is if it traced

2) NDA already admits something.... We just dont know what it actually is about.
2a) Daniels admitted once it didnt happen. then changed her mind, Trump has always said it didnt happen. What really is happening?
2b) Trump lying about banging a pornstar 12 years ago does not affect his 2016 campaign promises that he is currently DOING.... from my perspective.

3) To your point, I stand correct you are right.... "cover up" IF there is one in relation to your first point. I can agree.

4) Honestly, I dont really know what she wants. But the assumption is she wants some type of exposure. be it through fame or money. As a women.... and even McDougal said it. If Melania is watching all this... What would she say to Melania, I mean what women wants to ruin another persons life? If not for personal gain..... I dont know Its all ASSUMPTIONS on both sides...


5) Sorry I keep hearing book deal too, let me get back to you, I Am PROBABLY wrong... but I heard it, BRB on this.

6) No I gottcha, Its funny how we look at the "Glass". What I mean is, Usually when you want TV time you PAY for it no? But if you are a news breaker, you might pay someone for the news. So Daniels has 2 options.
She could Try to sell her story if its News worthy, which personally I think its a sham. Or the TV outlets could come to her for the story right?
6a) So say some no news channel offered her money, But she wanted HUGE TV exposure Like 60 minutes... thats a pretty darn top shelf broadcast NO? Why NOT just appear on a regular news report like AC360 or the View etc. NO she wants that exposure. If not why not just a normal run of the mill interview on a regular TV spot,
6b) Who is to say someone is NOT already paying her for coming out and doing this???


Sorry my apologies for the Rambles, I am trying to work in between post and I get distracted LOL!


Anyways I DO agree with the potential Campaign violation IF it was in fact true.... the question though is it true. Cover up, well Trump being trump yeah... cover up not really. I think the HRC/DNC funding a Law Firm for services rendered to pay Fusion GPS, for GPS to pay Steele for steel to pay Russian informants, is something similar no>?

If Cohen acted as a representative of the Trump organization, the Trump campaign, or Donald Trump, in the payment, then he was violating federal election laws. There has been compelling evidence presented by Avenatti that this is the case, in addition to the commonsense fact that it is nonsensical for Cohen to do this himself and independently.

Further to this second point, though, if Cohen indeed was acting in an individual capacity, and not in concert with or on behalf of Donald Trump, then he has violated his duty to his client by entering his client into a binding contract without telling him. He could be disbarred for such an act. Finally, it makes no sense for Cohen to draft and execute an NDA with Daniels, and have the NDA read specifically that it is between Trump and Daniels (not Cohen), and include a signature line for Trump, if he was acting in his own individual capacity.
 
From FOX NEWS

Stormy Daniels' lawyer fires 'warning shot' with mysterious DVD he says 'contains evidence'


The saga between President Trump and the pornographic film star Stormy Daniels took on a new dimension on Friday evening when Daniels' lawyer discussed a DVD he claimed “contains evidence” relating to the pair’s relationship.


“If ‘a picture is worth a thousand words,’ how many words is this worth?????,” Michael Avenatti, the lawyer, tweeted on Thursday. The message was accompanied by a photo of what appeared to be a DVD in a white sleeve on a countertop. Avenatti finished the tweet with hashtags of #60minutes #pleasedenyit and #basta, the foreign word for “enough.”

[COMMENT]

Now isn't that "interesting"?

For Mr. Trump's sake I hope that Mr. Avenatti doesn't have a copy of the file on an "unprotected" computer where some nefarious person could "hack" it and post it to the Internet completely against Mr. Avenatti's (or Ms. Clifford's) wishes.

On the other hand, it could be like those "tapes" that Mr. Trump had concerning Mr. Comey - couldn't it?

PS - "Basta" is an English word, albeit obsolete. [The Taming of the Shrew, Act I, Scene 1, Line 492]

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At some point anti-Trumpers are going to get tired of being fed red herrings. Not yet, I guess.
 
If Cohen acted as a representative of the Trump organization, the Trump campaign, or Donald Trump, in the payment, then he was violating federal election laws. There has been compelling evidence presented by Avenatti that this is the case, in addition to the commonsense fact that it is nonsensical for Cohen to do this himself and independently.

Further to this second point, though, if Cohen indeed was acting in an individual capacity, and not in concert with or on behalf of Donald Trump, then he has violated his duty to his client by entering his client into a binding contract without telling him. He could be disbarred for such an act. Finally, it makes no sense for Cohen to draft and execute an NDA with Daniels, and have the NDA read specifically that it is between Trump and Daniels (not Cohen), and include a signature line for Trump, if he was acting in his own individual capacity.


I question your first point for a couple of reasons.

1) At the time of the incident vs the first report and the NDA, This all relating back to 2006ish.... Can this all be applicable to Trumps Bid as the president.
1a) I doubt (speculations/assumption) that Cohen would be dumb enough to represent, The Trump Campaign, or be a surrogate for the related NDA. He is already a representative of TRUMP that is not in question, But FEL, question is in what way would this be directly applicable? (will read the Avenatti case thing brb.

2) As for Cohen acting alone, Well thats in paper to protect trump right? Cohen might be "willing" to take the fall to protect trump for something stupid? Or there must be something in the works like a Malpractice suit or something.

Anyways...... as far as illegal campaign donation.... really a porn start to shut up? he would use his campaign money, he doesnt have $130,00 laying around to just shut her up? I Trump Jr, is a dumb@$$ for his emails , but is Trump even more dumb with using campaign money?

As for "trump" line, was it under a suedo name
 
Its hard to imagine that Mueller, having watched the Starr investigation become embroiled in a sex scandal, would want his investigation to turn into that type of circus. I suspect he will let this play out in the normal channels and focus on what he was tasked to do.

That would be the smart course of action to take - especially if he made it clear to the DOJ that his professional opinion was that it would interfere with his existing mandate and could well obstruct the completion of his legally assigned task if he were also charged with "looking into" the financial proprieties of Mr. Cohen's payment to Ms. "Daniels".

Tossing in "Of course, if I did not feel that it would interfere with my existing mandate and that it would not obstruct the completion of my legally assigned task, then I would certainly want to take a closer look at the "Cohen/Daniels payments" to see if they did, in fact, constitute a breach of the laws of the United States of America or if they were, as Mr. Cohen maintains, completely legal." wouldn't hurt either.
 

The "The bill also accuses the highest court of violating “the decree of Almighty God that “a man shall leave his father and his mother and is united to his wife, and they shall become one flesh (Genesis 2:24, ESV).”" bit in the article (assuming that it's accurate does raise the interesting question of whether or not North Carolina is attempting to "establish Christianity" and become a State with a theocratic government - doesn't it?



I'm not sure why you're rolling your eyes. I answered your second point and I have no idea what your third is referring to.[/QUOTE]
 
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