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McMaster to Resign as National Security Adviser, and Will Be Replaced by John Bolton

Not that you would endorse it, but Kamela Harris, Gilibrand, Booker become the obvious possibilities.


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and you honestly think if the economy keeps chugging along that any of those people will be able to win back Michigan and Wisconsin from Trump. Because I doubt it.
 
and you honestly think if the economy keeps chugging along that any of those people will be able to win back Michigan and Wisconsin from Trump. Because I doubt it.

Yeah, because the margin was so large. Dow is chugging away today.......




From Wikipedia: Wisconsin margin, Popular vote 1,405,284 1,382,536
Percentage 47.22% 46.45%



Michigan margin:

Donald J. Trump
Republican
2,279,543 47.3% 16
Hillary Clinton
Democrat
2,268,839 47.0



Way to go, some overwhelming numbers!
 
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Not that you would endorse it, but Kamela Harris, Gilibrand, Booker become the obvious possibilities. They are legislators who get more press coverage and have a better shot with the base, but there’s a couple of possibilities with Governors like Hickenlooper, Patrick, Inslee, and McAuliffe. When it comes to recognition, I’d put my money on the Senators.


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Hickenlooper is my governor. He's fantastic for CO but I think would struggle on the national stage. He wouldn't be my first choice.
 
and you honestly think if the economy keeps chugging along that any of those people will be able to win back Michigan and Wisconsin from Trump. Because I doubt it.

It’s a significant possibility. Despite the (current) state of the economy, it has not benefitted Trump or his approval rating.

The President is in a precarious position, despite the institutional benefits of being an incumbent and starting the term with a resurgent economy.


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It’s a significant possibility. Despite the (current) state of the economy, it has not benefitted Trump or his approval rating.

The President is in a precarious position, despite the institutional benefits of being an incumbent and starting the term with a resurgent economy.

the "resurgent economy" argument only goes so far. If the bottom falls out of the economy tomorrow you think the left will accept him blaming Obama's economic policies for it? Of course not. The economy is now Trump's good or bad.

Add in the working class seeing benefits from Trump's tax cuts, and the fact that you can't show me a recent election where the economy wasn't the #1 issue to voters, and Trump, as of today, has the inside track to reelection.
 
the "resurgent economy" argument only goes so far. If the bottom falls out of the economy tomorrow you think the left will accept him blaming Obama's economic policies for it? Of course not. The economy is now Trump's good or bad.

Add in the working class seeing benefits from Trump's tax cuts, and the fact that you can't show me a recent election where the economy wasn't the #1 issue to voters, and Trump, as of today, has the inside track to reelection.

I have no doubt that Democrats will use the economy to blame Trump. Of course, most Presidents, Democratic or Republican, wouldn’t pursue policies like tariffs that instantaneously cause consequences for the stock market and consumers. Nevertheless, when things are good, the opponents will try to say you don’t deserve credit, and when things are bad they say you deserve the blame. That’s expected, though stupid. That being said, the President’s tenure over a healthy economy has not resulted in an improvement in his approval rating or prospects. That is extremely odd.

As far as your last point, the recent special election in Pennsylvania had an exit poll result which had healthcare topping the concerns of voters (52% of them), and not in the direction of the Republican Saccone (41% against Saccone v 28% support Saccone).


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What I find humorous about this is that 3 weeks ago, NBC said McMaster was on his way out. Trump said that was fake news. LMAO.
Maybe 3 weeks ago this was "fake news" because Trump suddenly decided to get Bolton instead, after all we are told Trump is impulsive, it is not unreasonable to think he might not be plotting replacements 3 weeks in advance. Not saying Trump shouldn't "plot" replacements 3 weeks in advance, after all they do need to get confirmed, would require background checks, reviews of "conflicts of interest" and such, but if Trump is criticised for his sudden and irrational decisions, it is not far-fetched to figure when he said McMaster's ouster was "fake news" to him it actually was.
 
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There is not "this America over here " and "this other America over there" unless we have already failed as a people.

Try Again if you like.
No need to try, I was right the first time, you do not know everyone.
 
He already was. And Ambassador Haley is better.

Yes. There are a lot of UN ambassadorships available, but I guess he wouldn't be interested working there again since it would technically be a demotion.
 
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