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Cambridge Analytica suspends CEO Alexander Nix after undercover recordings air

Jack Hays said:
That's your claim, not mine.
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As I said, you're trolling now. You're assertion/allegation is CA/SCR obtained the data legally and appropriately. That's false, according to...everything I've read, Facebook, British law, the account of an insider, etc. Your only support for the position CA did nothing illegal is your ignorant, evidence-free gut.

Anyway, I showed you my evidence - let's see what you're relying on for your conclusions, and your "logic" ain't evidence.
 
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JasperL said:
As I said, you're trolling now. You're assertion/allegation is CA/SCR obtained the data legally and appropriately. That's false, according to...everything I've read, Facebook, British law, the account of an insider, etc. Your only support for the position CA did nothing illegal is your ignorant, evidence-free gut.

Anyway, I showed you my evidence - let's see what you're relying on for your conclusions, and your "logic" ain't evidence.
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Sorry, but a decent lawyer will make a hash out of that "evidence." I'll stand by my view that CA acted legally, based on your link.
 
Jack Hays said:
Sorry, but a decent lawyer will make a hash out of that "evidence." I'll stand by my view that CA acted legally, based on your link.
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LOL, that's pitiful. And to be clear, what you're standing on is your baseless, evidence free, ignorant gut feeling. MAGA! :roll:
 
Lutherf said:
I'd fire the ****er too for flapping his yap and getting the whole organization on the front page. NOT all press is good press. In a firm like that your clients expect discretion.
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Yeah kinda like the Mob's accounting firm... :peace
 
JasperL said:
LOL, that's pitiful. And to be clear, what you're standing on is your baseless, evidence free, ignorant gut feeling. MAGA! :roll:
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I'll remind you of this exchange when this is decided. Your "evidence" is very much less than meets the eye.
 
People should do what I did I suspended my facebook page and gave the reason that if they can't control this evasion of privacy then they are ass-book
 
Jack Hays said:
I'll remind you of this exchange when this is decided. Your "evidence" is very much less than meets the eye.
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I'll be watching for that. In the meantime, your "evidence" is nothing, zero, zilch, nada. You haven't provided so much as a link or a reasoned argument. As is typical, your evidence is "Jack said so. Q.E.D." So if the court decisions somehow come out in your favor, based on what we've seen so far of your "reasoning," it will be dumb luck - a coin flip you guessed correctly. If so I'll congratulate you, promise! :lol:
 
JasperL said:
I'll be watching for that. In the meantime, your "evidence" is nothing, zero, zilch, nada. You haven't provided so much as a link or a reasoned argument. As is typical, your evidence is "Jack said so. Q.E.D." So if the court decisions somehow come out in your favor, based on what we've seen so far of your "reasoning," it will be dumb luck - a coin flip you guessed correctly. If so I'll congratulate you, promise! :lol:
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As you wish.
 
JasperL said:
That's a legal conclusion, which requires a citation to the law or to the TOS in which any authorized use simultaneously authorizes ALL uses, not only by Facebook but by anyone else who obtained permission to gather data for one purpose, but then can legally and without authorization auction that data to anyone else for any reason.

You asserting it and saying your basis for that conclusion is it's "logical" is laughable.

It's also completely absurd from a business perspective. Our data is what Facebook sells - that's its product. What kind of business makes it legal for an academic outfit to gather information for free, or even for a fee, then sell that data over and over to anyone that asks? What is left for Facebook to sell if after the first transfer the buyer or acquirer can legally transfer it over and over and over and over without notifying Facebook or cutting them into the action?
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JasperL:

Facebook has been in this situation before due to breaching privacy laws and standards and has been forced to settle with the US Federal Trade Commission by, among other remedies, agreeing to protect the privacy rights of its users and to protect their information unless they get explicit consent to share it from account holders. It consented to and signed on to a legal order with the FTC and agreed to protect users' privacy rights in 2011. It is legally bound by that order now and was also bound by that order between 2014 and 2016 when the data was illegally shared - according to the terms of the 2011 order. So Facebook is almost definitly in breach of an agreement made with the FTC and may also be in violation of US Federal regulations and some state privacy laws.

Cambridge Analytica also was warned by US authorities and private legal counsel that having both British and Canadian directors in charge of managing their US election related operations contravened US electoral laws and that they should adjust their staffing to put American citizens in charge of these operations in order to avoid being in breach of US law. Cambridge Analytica's management apparently chose to ignore these warnings and thus is in legal jeopardy for allowing foreign nationals to direct US election related activities in the USA and on US citizens from abroad.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/pre...tc-charges-it-deceived-consumers-failing-keep

Cambridge Analytica accused of knowingly violating US election laws | Daily Mail Online

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
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The problem with the Democrats and their propaganda wing the main street media, is when they do something, it is the best thing since sliced bread. When the Republican do the same thing, the sky is falling. Obama was the first to data mine Facebook, with the blessings of Facebook. Zuckerberg was more than willing to double cross the suckers who were making him rich. Even Hillary complained about Obama not sharing his research. Below is a link to a New York Times article, that once praised the savvy of Obama in 2013.

The real problem is the Democrats are better at coming up with new ideas. However, they are not as proficient as the Republicans in terms of implementations of those ideas. The come up with national healthcare and cause prices to inflate. The need the republicans to fix it since they are better at hands on. Obama and his team were amateurs compared to Trumps's team. This pisses them off, so they employ the two faced standard of judgement.

The Obama Campaign?s Digital Masterminds Cash In - The New York Times
 
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prometeus said:
Then you are only confused. What is god is good, but it takes a certain kind of imbeciles to excuse ANY and EVRY stupid thing Trump does.
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You make my point. My comments were not an endorsement of Trump or CA here. They are a comment on exactly the content on your post above.
 
humbolt said:
You make my point.
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Please, do not delude yourself, you had no point other than to divert from or excuse Trump.

My comments were not an endorsement of Trump or CA here.
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Of course not, they are diversion from the fact that both are crooked.

They are a comment on exactly the content on your post above.
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You are pathetically attempting to project.
 
JasperL said:
But where do you get the idea that this data was in the public domain? I don't know a single person (other than a business account) with a public Facebook page. We allow "friends" to see our pages - that's the entire point of being "friends" on Facebook.
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Your experience with FB is inconsequential.

Facebook users provided permission to access/use their data for academic purposes. Facebook permitted the transfer of data for academic purposes. After GSR gathered this data, for ostensibly academic purposes, they sold or transferred it to CA/affiliates, who used it for commercial activity, for profit - political purposes, and no one gave them permission to use the data for that purpose. Turns out if any of MY Facebook "friends" took the survey, GSR got my Facebook data too, and I sure as hell never authorized that.
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It certainly sounds as if you have an issue with FB.

You and the other person taking this position are asserting this was legal, but have provided ZERO support for that position. You can't link to an article that alleges this transfer was legal, Facebook disputes it, it's been reported gathering it for one purpose by one entity then that entity selling it to another without permission is illegal under British law, and CA is repeatedly lying about this supposedly legal and appropriate transfer even taking place. I don't get on what basis you and the other person are making these assertions of fact. JH says it's "logical" - well that's BS of course. Logic has nothing to do with it.
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British law has no effect in the US. It's not my responsibility to make a claim of legality. It's FB's responsibility to make a claim of illegality. Why do you think that Zuckerberg is, in effect, stuttering about this event?
 
prometeus said:
Please, do not delude yourself, you had no point other than to divert from or excuse Trump.

Of course not, they are diversion from the fact that both are crooked.

You are pathetically attempting to project.
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Again, huh? You should stop while you're behind. Trump has nothing to do with this. The dispute is between FB, CA, and the public that uses FB.
 
Fraggle Rock said:
People should do what I did I suspended my facebook page and gave the reason that if they can't control this evasion of privacy then they are ass-book
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My understanding is that FB is like the Hotel California. Good luck.
 
humbolt said:
The bit at the end of that article is priceless. When FB condemns CA, they're in fact condemning themselves. They've done precisely the same thing on many occasions. Zuckerberg didn't make billions performing a public service.
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Yup. The Facebook business model is in mortal peril.
 
humbolt said:
Again, huh? You should stop while you're behind. Trump has nothing to do with this. The dispute is between FB, CA, and the public that uses FB.
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Spare me your stupid tripe. I responded to your post in which YOU brought in Trump. If you are unable to follow the discussion, maybe you should undertake an activity that requires less intellect.
 
prometeus said:
Spare me your stupid tripe. I responded to your post in which YOU brought in Trump. If you are unable to follow the discussion, maybe you should undertake an activity that requires less intellect.
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Lordy. Apparently you haven't even read the OP. Don't you have to pee, or something?
 
humbolt said:
And you have the mind of a four year old having a tantrum. I'm not interested in the slightest. My children are adults now.
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Irrelevant tripe. You introduced Trump and now have nothing intelligent or relevant to say.
 
prometeus said:
Irrelevant tripe. You introduced Trump and now have nothing intelligent or relevant to say.
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The OP introduced Trump, you fool. Can you not read? Don't bother me anymore. Go find a toy to play with, or something.
 
Cambridge Analytica CEO Alexander Nix planned ahead for when the firm got busted.

Started a new firm in January 2018 that specializes in the same thing.

The Mercer family joined just as the Cambridge Analytica scandal was exploding...

Companies House | EMERDATA LIMITED
 
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