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A 12-year-old started playing with a dog. A deputy punched her in the face, Texas cops say

sangha said:
I know his boss thinks he should be fired. I know other cops thought he should be arrested for assault.

Oh, I forgot...His boss and the other cops are in on the conspiracy.
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What a pointless post as you've already established you believe you know everything to render a verdict right now.
 
JasperL said:
Well, there is "applicable proof" in the form of probably a dozen eye witnesses, and a 12 year old girl hospitalized.
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So if the girls injuries fail to align with the kind of attack described in those accounts. Should I just exhaust my current level of surprise, or let it build a little more?
 
X Factor said:
What a pointless post as you've already established you believe you know everything to render a verdict right now.
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I would be more likely to believe that you can read my mind if you demonstrated an ability to read my posts
 
X Factor said:
Buddy, I'm glad to see, at least, one other person willing to view this critically rather than already have decided what a jury verdict needs to be, but I have to say that I sincerely doubt this has anything to do Waters or Pelosi.
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I know.. but a guy can dream.
 
X Factor said:
Despite all the high horses trampling through this thread, this story is not adding up. This is the description of how he beat her;



Even describing it as MMA style. I've seen much bigger and in shape MMA fighters bloodied or knocked the **** out, much less a 12 year old girl being straddled and slammed full force repeatedly in the face. Shoot, I saw a dash cam video of a man doing that to a female cop and it very nearly killed her (I know, I know, she was a cop may have had it coming, but that's not why I mention it now). The description of her injuries is nowhere what it should be for what's been described.



No facial fractures? No broken orbital bone or jaw?

If the account turns out to be exaggerated or even fake, should he be convicted just to satisfy public demand, I wonder?
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If it's fake, of course not.

But the extent of the injuries shouldnt matter at all. If he was drunk (or not) and assaulted a child...he should face charges.
 
Oborosen said:
So if you were fired over allegedly doing something, with no applicable proof. Would it not seem the least bit unjust to you?
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What 'proof' is missing?
 
sangha said:
I know his boss thinks he should be fired. I know other cops thought he should be arrested for assault.

Oh, I forgot...His boss and the other cops are in on the conspiracy.
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ANd his prior drunkeness and resisting arrest are probably no surprise to his boss either.
 
I read through six pages in this thread, and I simply cannot help but feel amazement at the kinds of seemingly inarguable points people will actually choose to argue about.

There was a "tough call" when a drunken lout of a detective beats up a little girl in public?

It's actually all a hoax perpetrated by this little girl, her step-dad, other witness bystanders, the EMTs, the treating staff at a hospital, the other Police Department?




Blehh!
 
Oborosen said:
A grown man tackling a 12 year old child and punching her in what is described as MMA style attacks... yeah this is completely in the realm of reality.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out that her injuries were in no way aligned with how she was attacked.
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Why in the world would you think this is not possible, or so unlikely that the witnesses should be disbelieved? Her injuries are reported to have been swelling to the face and head, scratches to her stomach, and abrasions on her shoulders and arms:

In Texas, sheriff's deputy accused of beating up 12-year-old girl - The Morning Call

That's apparently from the affidavit filed with the court. So yeah, looks like the injuries are consistent. Of course, it's possible something could come up at trial that exonerates him--in about the same way it's possible to play Russian roulette a hundred times in a row and walk away.
 
Mr Person said:
I read through six pages in this thread, and I simply cannot help but feel amazement at the kinds of seemingly inarguable points people will actually choose to argue about.

There was a "tough call" when a drunken lout of a detective beats up a little girl in public?

It's actually all a hoax perpetrated by this little girl, her step-dad, other witness bystanders, the EMTs, the treating staff at a hospital, the other Police Department?




Blehh!
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Yes. This is my sentiment. Looking at our current political situation, there are quite a few positions that, ten years ago, I'd have never thought anyone would argue. Now the President of the United States argues some of those. I'm afraid that stupidity has to be resolutely opposed, no matter how obvious it appears to reasonable people.

To be clear (just in case it isn't already clear), none of that is aimed at you. I agree with your post.
 
sangha said:
If I were going to dumb down this thread, I might go with the I know you are but what am I? argument you just posted
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What an odd post. I was just returning your, no doubt, sincere compliment with an equally as sincere compliment of my own.
 
Polar Bum said:
It began at Oakwood BBQ in Austin, Texas. It ended with a 12-year-old girl in the hospital and a sheriff’s deputy in handcuffs.

It was shortly before 8 p.m. on March 3 when sheriff’s deputy Jack Danford Jr. was sitting at the back of the restaurant with his daughter and her boyfriend while a 12-year-old girl and a small dog were running around near them.


Texas deputy fired for allegedly beating 12-year-old girl at BBQ restaurant | Miami Herald


If this is true, words completely fail me.

Sheriff Robert Chody fired the deputy and said “there’s a price to pay” for reflecting negatively on the department, he told the paper.

"Reflecting negatively"?

Shouldn't the primary concern be for the child?
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I would expect felony charges to be in order but with LE involved likely no charges will be filed .........
 
Lursa said:
If it's fake, of course not.

But the extent of the injuries shouldnt matter at all. If he was drunk (or not) and assaulted a child...he should face charges.
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It doesn't matter if the injuries are inconsistent with the story reported?
 
DiAnna said:
If I read that "apology" from the Sheriff correctly, he actually apologized to another department's police department because its officers had to arrest his detective... then said "it was a tough call" for them to make.

WTF?? Arresting a man pummeling a 12 yr. old girl in public was a "tough call"??? On what planet? And if there was any concern for the child shown in that apology, I sure as hell missed it.

Disgraceful.
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You have to understand; cops think 'like that' ............. they are above the law & they think that when it happens to one of their own they freak out like dopers .........
 
Mr Person said:
I read through six pages in this thread, and I simply cannot help but feel amazement at the kinds of seemingly inarguable points people will actually choose to argue about.

There was a "tough call" when a drunken lout of a detective beats up a little girl in public?

It's actually all a hoax perpetrated by this little girl, her step-dad, other witness bystanders, the EMTs, the treating staff at a hospital, the other Police Department?




Blehh!
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Or, perhaps, the news embellished it. Naw, that never happens.
 
X Factor said:
Or, perhaps, the news embellished it. Naw, that never happens.
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Yeah, let's not worry about how an officer arrested earlier in the month for public intoxication and resisting arrest, gets drunk again and beats up a little girl. Let's instead use this to speculate about "the news" embellished things, then bash "the news."

Yup.

:roll:
 
ttwtt78640 said:
They were a fellow super citizen, of course.

The recent story of a CA teacher (who just happened to also be a LEO) was not arrested for drawing and shooting his gun inside a classroom injuring a student. There is no way in hell that any other citizen (not on the public payroll) could pull that off without getting arrested.
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LE in America NEEDS to start being treated like any other citizen; I have no respect for these assholes ...........
 
X Factor said:
Pretend he was a jihadi instead of a cop and maybe you'll understand it better.
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pretend it was some guy in Florida with the last name of CRUZ ................ maybe the cop should have his weapons taken away, before he KILLS ..........
 
Mr Person said:
Yeah, let's not worry about how an officer arrested earlier in the month for public intoxication and resisting arrest, gets drunk again and beats up a little girl. Let's instead use this to speculate about "the news" embellished things, then bash "the news."

Yup.

:roll:
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Is it wrong of me to not accept the entire story whole cloth yet? Would it be better to accept without question what I'm told as you have?
 
DiAnna said:
If I read that "apology" from the Sheriff correctly, he actually apologized to another department's police department because its officers had to arrest his detective... then said "it was a tough call" for them to make.

WTF?? Arresting a man pummeling a 12 yr. old girl in public was a "tough call"??? On what planet? And if there was any concern for the child shown in that apology, I sure as hell missed it.

Disgraceful.
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Good call
 
beerftw said:
Generally speaking they likely did not give two craps about the guy sitting in jail, however sweeping it under the rug does not mean keeping him out of jail but rather burying the story so it could not disgrace the police. For them it was a damned if you do damned if you don't for police, if they arrested him there like they did, they have to answer why they let someone like him on the force, if they do not arrest him, they have to answer why they let police corruption go unchecked and allowed.

The tough call was for how they would handle it best to save face, to put it in simplest terms.
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This is a great example of police policing police.

It does not reflect badly on anyone but the drunken suspect.
 
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