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GOP pushes for 'phase two' of tax cuts

SouthernDemocrat said:
You say that marriage is a state's issue. In Loving V. Virginia, SCOTUS ruled against Virginia and it's ban on interracial marriage. The ruling eliminated several southern state bans on interracial marriage at the time. Thus, if you believe that marriage is a state's right issue, then you have to disagree with that ruling as well.
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This was a race issue not a marriage issue but keep spouting the leftwing lies. Race is in the Constitution, Marriage isn't
 
Conservative said:
This was a race issue not a marriage issue but keep spouting the leftwing lies. Race is in the Constitution, Marriage isn't
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I have been on here since 2005, and that is the dumbest argument I have ever seen. Read the case. Loving V. Virginia was about discrimination in marriage law. If you believe that marriage is a state issue only, then you have to believe that Loving V. Virginia was wrongly decided. However, if you believe that Loving V. Virginia was correctly decided, and thus state prohibitions against interracial marriage violated the Equal Protection Clause and the Due Process Clause of the constitution, then you have to also believe that Obergefell v. Hodges was correctly decided because Loving V. Virginia was the precedent for Obergefell v. Hodges.

Dude, you do not have to tote the Republican party line on every single issue imaginable. I disagree with Democrats on some issues and agree with Republicans on others. Think for yourself dude. The Republicans are so damn wrong on same sex marriage, that you have states now like Tennessee where the GOP will not outlaw child marriage because they think it will hurt their case against same sex marriage. That is how absolutely despicable otherwise decent people can get when bigotry is involved.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I have been on here since 2005, and that is the dumbest argument I have ever seen. Read the case. Loving V. Virginia was about discrimination in marriage law. If you believe that marriage is a state issue only, then you have to believe that Loving V. Virginia was wrongly decided. However, if you believe that Loving V. Virginia was correctly decided, and thus state prohibitions against interracial marriage violated the Equal Protection Clause and the Due Process Clause of the constitution, then you have to also believe that Obergefell v. Hodges was correctly decided because Loving V. Virginia was the precedent for Obergefell v. Hodges.

Dude, you do not have to tote the Republican party line on every single issue imaginable. I disagree with Democrats on some issues and agree with Republicans on others. Think for yourself dude. The Republicans are so damn wrong on same sex marriage, that you have states now like Tennessee where the GOP will not outlaw child marriage because they think it will hurt their case against same sex marriage. That is how absolutely despicable otherwise decent people can get when bigotry is involved.
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Last time I checked both were of the opposite sex, one white and one black, has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
 
zimmer said:
Democrats asked for it... ROTFLOL... Americans will benefit from it, just as they have from the first tax cuts.

Complaining that the Trump tax cuts were crumbs, just opened the door wide open for round two.

Wonderful.
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Poll: most Americans aren’t noticing a tax cut in their paychecks
Not only do most Americans not notice the crumbs the GOP cynically threw them, they know that tax-cuts don't come free.

In the recent PA elections, Republicans tried to sell their candidate by touting the 2017 tax cuts, which they portrayed as a boon to the middle class. This was classic Bush-era strategy: The Trump tax cuts, like the Bush tax cuts, did indeed offer some temporary relief to middle-class families, although they offered far more to the wealthy.

What makes this a bait and switch is the hard truth that tax cuts must, eventually, be paid for -- in fact, people like House Speaker Paul Ryan barely waited for the ink on the tax bill to dry before proclaiming that social programs must be cut to reduce the budget deficit the tax cuts will do so much to inflate. And under any plausible allocation of the spending cuts needed to offset lost revenue, the tax cuts will leave most Americans worse off (while, of course, benefiting the top 1%) and voters know it.
 
HenryChinaski said:
Jealousy? "It's not about keeping more of what they earn" it's about paying your fair share not paying anything at all and getting piles of money back to boot. How much more of a tax cut can you get than that?. These companies write off everything including salaries. They have access to a big shell game that's been rigged in their favor. So how many more breaks do they need?
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Do you take advantage of deductions on your personal taxes? Or, do you pay the maximum you can pay? Glass houses and all...
 
Moderate Right said:
Reboot? It was Democrats who had to reboot and retool their message after years of heavy losses, including losing the presidency to the worst nominee in history.
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I take it from this bizarre non sequitur we're in agreement. The GOP wouldn't need to already be mulling "Phase Two" if Phase One was having its desired effect. Sadly the crumbs aren't propping up their electoral fortunes the way they had hoped.
 
j-mac said:
Better check again....The liberal messaging failed when people started getting more in their paychecks...Now popularity is surging....As a middle class, blue collar guy, I can tell you that a bonus of $1000.00 is NOT crumbs. And, the extra $40 bucks a week in my paycheck helps ease the inflation seen from the policies of the past 8 years due to progressive policies on my budget....Plus, many including my own company gave a raise to my pay making the effective addition to my finances about $75 per week....That's $300 per month....Takes care of a couple of bills for me, so that I can save more.....Thinking government should have that money to waste on things like shrimp on treadmills is just plain silly to me.
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Except that the government is still wasting as much, if not more, but simply funding it with additional debt.
 
Greenbeard said:
I take it from this bizarre non sequitur we're in agreement. The GOP wouldn't need to already be mulling "Phase Two" if Phase One was having its desired effect. Sadly the crumbs aren't propping up their electoral fortunes the way they had hoped.
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They reached the pinnacle of their electoral fortunes. They took over, over 1000 seats from the Democrats over the last several years, control 2/3's of the governorships and state legislatures, the US House, The US Senate, the presidency, and even the Supreme Court. The midterms are probably going to come out the way they always come out - with the party in power losing seats. We are currently phasing over from Obama's and the Democrat's deep state to the Republican deep state.
 
j-mac said:
In an election year this could be a political minefield for Democrats....They argued when the tax cuts were passed that they were bad because they didn't make the individual cuts permanent, now that is one thing this legislation will include....Will Nancy, call it 'crumbs' again?
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The details of the GOP plan have been released to the public:

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