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Trump required staff to sign nondisclosure agreements that last past his presidency

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The word "unprecedented" has been used alot since Donald J. Trump, Sr. became POTUS but this truly meets the definition. According to theHill.com as reported by MSN.com, Pres. Trump has had his staff sign non-disclosure agreements that extend past his presidency with penalties that allegedly amount to upwards of $10M. For those who haven't been keeping score, this is the exact same tactic he's used before, most recently with Stormy Daniels only hers was 1/10th less.

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-presidency-report/ar-BBKovuW?ocid=spartandhp
 
Objective Voice said:
The word "unprecedented" has been used alot since Donald J. Trump, Sr. became POTUS but this truly meets the definition. According to theHill.com as reported by MSN.com, Pres. Trump has had his staff sign non-disclosure agreements that extend past his presidency with penalties that allegedly amount to upwards of $10M. For those who haven't been keeping score, this is the exact same tactic he's used before, most recently with Stormy Daniels only hers was 1/10th less.

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-presidency-report/ar-BBKovuW?ocid=spartandhp
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This is old news, and I'm surprised it has not been brought up earlier. Thanks for doing so!

This literally blows me away. I'm at a loss to understand why Congress will not step in. Essentially, Trump has silenced our government employees from discussing the People's business. This is beyond bad!
 
Chomsky said:
This is old news, and I'm surprised it has not been brought up earlier. Thanks for doing so!

This literally blows me away. I'm at a loss to understand why Congress will not step in. Essentially, Trump has silenced our government employees from discussing the People's business. This is beyond bad!
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paul ryan and mitch McConnell don't care.
 
Objective Voice said:
The word "unprecedented" has been used alot since Donald J. Trump, Sr. became POTUS but this truly meets the definition. According to theHill.com as reported by MSN.com, Pres. Trump has had his staff sign non-disclosure agreements that extend past his presidency with penalties that allegedly amount to upwards of $10M. For those who haven't been keeping score, this is the exact same tactic he's used before, most recently with Stormy Daniels only hers was 1/10th less.

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-presidency-report/ar-BBKovuW?ocid=spartandhp
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Exactly what happens when working for a vindictive, childish, and petty little asshole.
 
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So you only have rights to exercise if Trump wants you to have rights to exercise. Another example of his bully boy attitude and methods as a wanna-be authoritarian.

So will Trump now come after those who were quoted in FIRE AND FURY?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
paul ryan and mitch McConnell don't care.
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More importantly, the people who vote them in power don't care. Nothing matters to them as long as they think they're " winning "

As a young man, only thing that gives me comfort is a lot of them are old and dying soon and the new generation seems much better.
 
I hadn't heard about the non-disclosure thing. But, it's not surprising.
 
Objective Voice said:
The word "unprecedented" has been used alot since Donald J. Trump, Sr. became POTUS but this truly meets the definition. According to theHill.com as reported by MSN.com, Pres. Trump has had his staff sign non-disclosure agreements that extend past his presidency with penalties that allegedly amount to upwards of $10M. For those who haven't been keeping score, this is the exact same tactic he's used before, most recently with Stormy Daniels only hers was 1/10th less.

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-presidency-report/ar-BBKovuW?ocid=spartandhp
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Sounds to me that his malfeasance is premeditated. Definitely not the behavior of an innocent man.
 
The crazy thing about this issue is government employees/public servants already sign confidentiality statements. Of course, this merely applies to unauthorized disclosure of classified/sensitive material. Still, you'd think that would be enough but that's not the issue here with this President. Trump has extended such non-disclosure to include anything members of his staff may hear that's considered personal or inflammatory/embarrasing to him. Moreover, such non-disclosure may extend to what staffers learn about his business and his family.

You'd think that after hearing about all the chaos and disorder that comes out of this Administration the people wouldn't want to work for him, but folks like following powerful people. It's too bad they don't stop and think about the risk they're taking as opposed to the prestige they hope to gain.
 
That's what happens when someone treats government like their own personal corporation.
 
Objective Voice said:
The word "unprecedented" has been used alot since Donald J. Trump, Sr. became POTUS but this truly meets the definition. According to theHill.com as reported by MSN.com, Pres. Trump has had his staff sign non-disclosure agreements that extend past his presidency with penalties that allegedly amount to upwards of $10M. For those who haven't been keeping score, this is the exact same tactic he's used before, most recently with Stormy Daniels only hers was 1/10th less.

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-presidency-report/ar-BBKovuW?ocid=spartandhp
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Are these staff positions compulsory, as in they must be assigned from civil service personnel lists and/or are hired via the standard civil service application process for say...office assistant, etc.?

Or at they "personal" staff, as in advisors, personal secretaries, etc., where the President or his Chief of Staff interviews and picks them to serve at his pleasure for the period he holds office?

If the first group, then I agree it would be inappropriate since they are assigned the duties by their civil service rating for the length of their service with normal promotion opportunities and pay increases.

However, if we are talking about the second group, then I see nothing wrong with requiring such non-disclosure agreements, especially after the President's experience with casual leakers over the short time he has served in office.

These people serve at his pleasure, personal staff and support, and he should feel secure in the knowledge they are being held accountable for violating his trust. After all, they can refuse and seek work elsewhere.

That's how I see it anyway. :shrug:
 
I've said it before, I'll say it again: this guy is nuts.
 
I think the Japaneses Prime Minister summed it all up with this look. Are not you proud.


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SMTA said:
Exactly what happens when working for a vindictive, childish, and petty little asshole.
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he is NOT "little"
 
I would think that the same National Archive rules that applied to the Secretary of State would apply to the President and his entire cabinet as well.



Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find Trump's 30,000 emails that are missing.
 
My view is that such an agreement has several legal flaws. The first is that Donald Trump, the individual, can't require a federal employee, as a requirement of their service, to sign a NDA. The second flaw is that it is questionable as to whether any president can require staff to agree to sign NDAs as a requirement of employment. The third flaw is that once Trump leaves office he has no standing to sue, as the allegiance isn't to Trump, but to the United States government.
 
Objective Voice said:
The word "unprecedented" has been used alot since Donald J. Trump, Sr. became POTUS but this truly meets the definition. According to theHill.com as reported by MSN.com, Pres. Trump has had his staff sign non-disclosure agreements that extend past his presidency with penalties that allegedly amount to upwards of $10M. For those who haven't been keeping score, this is the exact same tactic he's used before, most recently with Stormy Daniels only hers was 1/10th less.

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-presidency-report/ar-BBKovuW?ocid=spartandhp
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Fantastic, we're all sick of these government leeches selling access. He understands the game doesn't he ?
 
The proverbial snowball in hell would last longer than those NDAs in court.
 
That's his MO right? NDA...treat you like dog **** and lie, etc., you lose it all but you can't warn the next victim...

Same thing he's doing with the white house. Bringing people in, chewing them up, and spitting them out. I almost feel sorry for any of them who tried to serve honestly to help "make America great". Has to be the single most demoralizing thing they have every experienced.
 
It's a bit Putin-esque. Maybe that is why the AG and others can't seem to "recall" meeting with Russians and stuff?
 
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