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FBI officials recommend former #2 at FBI Andrew McCabe be fired

Maybe the OPR is recommending that McCabe be fired for leaking to the press?

"Justice Department expected to criticize FBI's Andrew McCabe over leaks about Hillary Clinton"
Justice Department expected to criticize FBI's Andrew McCabe over leaks about Hillary Clinton

Or maybe lying about the leak to the DOJ OIG, which could be the same charge ad FLynn lying to the FBI.
"A source told AP that McCabe is suspected of misleading internal investigators about a media leak, an allegation he denies."
https://nypost.com/2018/03/14/mccabe-could-be-fired-before-fbi-retirement/

"One aspect of the reported findings, however, stands out. According to these reports, investigators believed that McCabe misled them about his approval of a leak to the media on the Clinton investigation. An alleged false or misleading statement by McCabe could rekindle questions about how the Justice Department addresses alleged false statements within its own ranks."
If Andrew McCabe lied, could he be charged like Michael Flynn? | TheHill

Or maybe it was because he delayed the investigation of Clinton emails on Weiner's laptop.
"The DOJ inspector general, Michael Horowitz, is reportedly looking at why McCabe neglected for at least three weeks to look at new emails related to the investigation that were found on former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y)'s laptop during the later months of the 2016 election."
WaPo: Justice IG focused on McCabe delay in examining Clinton emails on Weiner laptop | TheHill

Or maybe it was possible that he asked agents to alter their 302 investigation notes which could be obstruction of justice.
"If Horowitz can prove that senior FBI leadership ordered investigators to interfere with written evidence on an FD-302, that is the very definition of obstruction of justice. FD-302s aren’t “opinion pieces.” This could be a central part of the OIG’s report and, if the allegations are proven, it would not bode well for McCabe and others."
3 questions inspector general must answer regarding investigation of FBI leadership | TheHill

Pick just one or maybe use all four. He needs to lose his pension and possibly jail time. It isn't about payback. It's about corruption committed by the 2nd highest person in the FBI.
 
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NonoBadDog said:
Maybe the OPR is recommending that McCabe be fired for leaking to the press?

"Justice Department expected to criticize FBI's Andrew McCabe over leaks about Hillary Clinton"
Justice Department expected to criticize FBI's Andrew McCabe over leaks about Hillary Clinton

Or maybe lying about the leak to the DOJ OIG, which could be the same charge ad FLynn lying to the FBI.
"A source told AP that McCabe is suspected of misleading internal investigators about a media leak, an allegation he denies."
https://nypost.com/2018/03/14/mccabe-could-be-fired-before-fbi-retirement/

"One aspect of the reported findings, however, stands out. According to these reports, investigators believed that McCabe misled them about his approval of a leak to the media on the Clinton investigation. An alleged false or misleading statement by McCabe could rekindle questions about how the Justice Department addresses alleged false statements within its own ranks."
If Andrew McCabe lied, could he be charged like Michael Flynn? | TheHill

Or maybe it was because he delayed the investigation of Clinton emails on Weiner's laptop.
"The DOJ inspector general, Michael Horowitz, is reportedly looking at why McCabe neglected for at least three weeks to look at new emails related to the investigation that were found on former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y)'s laptop during the later months of the 2016 election."
WaPo: Justice IG focused on McCabe delay in examining Clinton emails on Weiner laptop | TheHill

Or maybe it was possible that he asked agents to alter their 302 investigation notes which could be obstruction of justice.
"If Horowitz can prove that senior FBI leadership ordered investigators to interfere with written evidence on an FD-302, that is the very definition of obstruction of justice. FD-302s aren’t “opinion pieces.” This could be a central part of the OIG’s report and, if the allegations are proven, it would not bode well for McCabe and others."
3 questions inspector general must answer regarding investigation of FBI leadership | TheHill

Pick just one or maybe use all four. He needs to lose his pension and possibly jail time. It isn't about payback. It's about corruption committed by the 2nd highest person in the FBI.
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A bunch of maybe's.....Reads like a Fox News memo...Go out and push the "maybe's" and say Hillary as much as possible
 
Saladin4 said:
A bunch of maybe's.....Reads like a Fox News memo...Go out and push the "maybe's" and say Hillary as much as possible
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Denial:
disbelief in the existence or reality of a thing.

Good luck with that.

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Lutherf said:
Well, if you've got an employee who may have done something to harm the reputation or integrity of your organization then you fire that individual instead of just letting them retire. For example, when I was in the service a command grade officer who had a drinking problem or an infidelity problem often "retired" when word hit the street. However, if that officer committed a crime or a gross dereliction of duty they would be court martialed.
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Plus officers are subject to conduct unbecoming which is itself a basis of discharge while nco and lower enlisted personnel have no such standard or accountability.

Trump hires people into the White House and into the cabinet agencies who are just flat out unbecoming. Trump started out hiring 'em into his campaign. General E. Barrel Kelly qualifies to work for Trump due to Kelly being a right winger who dumps on military families that are black. A Gold Star family besides. This is certainly conduct unbecoming where I come from.

I'll take McCabe over Page any day of the week and twice on Sunday. McCabe is a career civil servant at FBI while Page is a jerk. Which makes Page a natural for both Trump and Kelly. Page is a 1993 graduate of the Naval academy who quit after five years in active service. Page flunked his Ph.D. dissertation in London twice in 2008 and 2009....


Ex-Trump adviser Carter Page accused academics who twice failed his PhD of bias

Page’s ‘verbose’ and ‘vague’ thesis was failed twice at University of London


Andrusz said he had expected it would be “easy” to pass Page, a student at the School of Oriental and African Studies (Soas). He said it actually took “days and days” to wade through Page’s work. Page “knew next to nothing” about social science and seemed “unfamiliar with basic concepts like Marxism or state capitalism,” the professor said.

The viva, held at University College, London, went badly. “Page seemed to think that if he talked enough, people would think he was well-informed. In fact it was the reverse,” Andrusz said. He added that Page was “dumbfounded” when the examiners told him he had failed.

Their subsequent report was withering. It said Page’s thesis was “characterised by considerable repetition, verbosity and vagueness of expression”, failed to meet the criteria required for a PhD, and needed “substantial revision”. He was given 18 months to produce another draft.

“Carter Page wanted to become a rich man. He hinted at having contacts in high places in Russia who were his informants,” Andrusz observed. The professor – who taught at Middlesex and Birmingham universities – said during his three decades as a lecturer he failed just one PhD student twice: Page.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/22/trump-carter-page-phd-thesis-trump



We never heard of Carter Page until he tried to link himself between the campaigns of Putin and Trump. McCabe meanwhile spent a career at FBI doing his duty which is why we never heard of him...until Carter Page bumbled along. USNA grads are pretty sharp professionals until they throw themselves into politics not to mention international intrigue and political subterfuge. We had Jimmy Carter and now we have Carter Page.
 
McCabe was or is still currently in Rosenstein's office pleading his case to receive his pension.

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McCabe would need to have the due process provided by law to any career civil service employee. The due process requirements exist for good reason of course....



The case puts Sessions in an awkward position between the president — who has criticized McCabe publicly and said he shouldn’t be able to retire with his pension — and rank-and-file employees who might see firing McCabe as politically motivated.

“When you have Trump tweeting and Sessions under threat, I’m not really sure what justice looks like in this case,” said former FBI assistant director Ron Hosko, who now runs the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund. “What you have playing out now is very unusual.”

Hosko said FBI employees facing discipline are normally entitled to protest any finding of wrongdoing and any potential punishment. Punishment is typically imposed after consideration of 12 factors, including an employee’s work history, past punishment of other employees for similar conduct, “the notoriety of the offense or its impact upon the reputation of the agency,” and the clarity of the policy violated.

An FBI spokeswoman had no immediate comment on the process.

https://algreen.org/sessions-mulls-firing-andrew-mccabe/



We recall Potus Trump asked McCabe in a face to face question who he voted for. McCabe said he didn't vote in the contest which seemed to offend Trump personally. Comey got fired for giving a pass to Trump's plea of personal loyalty on Flynn. We can expect it won't be Trump's last plea in all of this.
 
McCabe retires Sunday so this one might be filed today under what's taking so long.

Trump may indeed have Sessions fire McCabe as planned and schemed by Trump and his WH minions. While we have no question Trump wants it the question is Sessions and morale at the FBI should Sessions decide to execute the order. McCable would of course have legal recourse to being fired to include protests, appeals, lawyers and the like. McCabe would have strong laws on his side that protect career civil servants from blatantly political maneuvers and manipulation of the justice system and department.

For instance....



Apparently, the president took his love of calling out losers to a whole other level last year.

NBC News is reporting that the day after FBI Director James Comey was fired, President Donald Trump called then-acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe to complain that Comey was able to fly home on a government plane.

And during the call, he decided to take a shot at McCabe after the acting FBI chief said that while he hadn’t been asked to authorize the flight but would have if asked.

The president was silent for a moment and then turned on McCabe, suggesting he ask his wife how it feels to be a loser — an apparent reference to a failed campaign for state office in Virginia that McCabe’s wife made in 2015.

McCabe replied: “OK, sir.” Trump then hung up the phone.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/tru...e-to-ask-his-wife-how-it-feels-to-be-a-loser/




Mueller is all the while investigating motive, intent, pattern, practice, going back to early 2016 to the present.
 
Saladin4 said:
A bunch of maybe's.....Reads like a Fox News memo...Go out and push the "maybe's" and say Hillary as much as possible
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NonoBadDog said:
Maybe the OPR is recommending that McCabe be fired for leaking to the press?

"Justice Department expected to criticize FBI's Andrew McCabe over leaks about Hillary Clinton"
Justice Department expected to criticize FBI's Andrew McCabe over leaks about Hillary Clinton

Or maybe lying about the leak to the DOJ OIG, which could be the same charge ad FLynn lying to the FBI.
"A source told AP that McCabe is suspected of misleading internal investigators about a media leak, an allegation he denies."
https://nypost.com/2018/03/14/mccabe-could-be-fired-before-fbi-retirement/

"One aspect of the reported findings, however, stands out. According to these reports, investigators believed that McCabe misled them about his approval of a leak to the media on the Clinton investigation. An alleged false or misleading statement by McCabe could rekindle questions about how the Justice Department addresses alleged false statements within its own ranks."
If Andrew McCabe lied, could he be charged like Michael Flynn? | TheHill

Or maybe it was because he delayed the investigation of Clinton emails on Weiner's laptop.
"The DOJ inspector general, Michael Horowitz, is reportedly looking at why McCabe neglected for at least three weeks to look at new emails related to the investigation that were found on former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y)'s laptop during the later months of the 2016 election."
WaPo: Justice IG focused on McCabe delay in examining Clinton emails on Weiner laptop | TheHill

Or maybe it was possible that he asked agents to alter their 302 investigation notes which could be obstruction of justice.
"If Horowitz can prove that senior FBI leadership ordered investigators to interfere with written evidence on an FD-302, that is the very definition of obstruction of justice. FD-302s aren’t “opinion pieces.” This could be a central part of the OIG’s report and, if the allegations are proven, it would not bode well for McCabe and others."
3 questions inspector general must answer regarding investigation of FBI leadership | TheHill

Pick just one or maybe use all four. He needs to lose his pension and possibly jail time. It isn't about payback. It's about corruption committed by the 2nd highest person in the FBI.
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Yeah, check this out dude, fresh from Fox News:
Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe fired
"The FBI’s OPR then reviewed the report and underlying documents and issued a disciplinary proposal recommending the dismissal of Mr. McCabe. Both the OIG and FBI OPR reports concluded that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor − including under oath − on multiple occasions.

"The FBI expects every employee to adhere to the highest standards of honesty, integrity, and accountability. As the OPR proposal stated, 'all FBI employees know that lacking candor under oath results in dismissal and that our integrity is our brand.'"
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/17/former-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-fired.html

Wait, you are Fox News sensitive so here's one from The Hill:
In a statement Friday evening, Sessions said that the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility and Office of Inspector General (OIG) had found McCabe made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and "lacked candor — including under oath — on multiple occasions."
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378826-sessions-fires-mccabe-from-fbi
 
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