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They've had enough. Students across country walk out to demand new gun laws

j-mac said:
Well, I don't think that fixing the background check system is a bad thing, and I also think that we need to give a whole lot more attention to our mental health system in this country....Other things like arming teachers, or employing retired police, ex military etc to be in the schools is an interesting idea as well....But the bottom line is we have a problem in this country that is growing....And that is political division, and a sense of civility when engaging such....

Having been here in DP as long as I have, and a site called Whistle Stopper before this for years, and years, discourse has changed, and NOT for the better....We have a society IMHO these days that spends a good part of their existence on their devices, which takes the humanity out of the equation....Couple that with just how utterly mean kids can be to one another, and you have a recipe where things like this happen....I do NOT think it is the gun's fault, and I am a staunch 2a advocate....The words in that say "Shall not". Not "Should not", or "may not".....There is NO wiggle room in that....regulation is another debate. What we are seeing here is more a "never waste a crisis" thing, more than anything else...It's a tactic.
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Maybe. It doesn't really matter, though, because as usual, the gun debate has derailed the conversation about mass violence. Now we just sit back and wait for the next round of innocent people to be murdered in public.
 
austrianecon said:
Because there is a massive misunderstanding when it comes to firearms and failures that lead to these incidents. 1) In Northern Ireland and even Paris those acts of violence were done weapons that were BANNED and impossible to get. Only "criminals" could get them as they were smuggled weapons. 2) You can't stop crimes such as shootings by banning firearms. A criminal and someone hell bent on doing something like this, will get their hands on one. 3) This incident was CLEARLY a failure of Government. 4) These students and the left are the same kinds of people that blame cops for shooting people, have no problem with them having firearms, but if you are a private citizen it's a no-no. There is no logical sense there.
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Your post wasn't really a response to mine. I'm not interested in the gun debate in this thread. It tends to be a waste of time in this forum, although there are a few posters that make it interesting, instructive, and productive. I was asking why some people feel so justified speaking so badly about teenagers. The answers from many different posters have all been the same. They don't like the students (or anyone else for that matter) talking about gun control. As it turns out, the students' focus on guns and the response that always triggers have together prevented yet another holistic conversation about mass violence. All the gun freaks on both sides of the issue can't see anything except the guns. So, as usual, the rest of us sigh and wait for the next mass murder.
 
NonoBadDog said:
When I need wise advice I always go find a random high school student since they make such good decisions with their vast pool of life experiences.
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As the 71-year-old imbecile in the WH and plenty of other old people demonstrate often, age is not the primary indicator of wisdom.
 
chuckiechan said:
They are AstroTurf. They are being taken advantage of because they are conditioned to accept the leadership of teachers, and that the teacher is right, and you grade depends on it. And if you disagree, "you won't be going to college with those grades!"

It's a national disgrace that the democrats can turn the nations youth into "brown shirts" for the DNC.
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So now it's the teachers' conspiracy as well? I heard about the media and the Democrats and the evil students themselves, but I wasn't aware that the US's teachers have also planned a national movement against guns. Strange. This forum includes a number of pro-gun teachers. I wonder how that can be.

And spare us your self indulgent protest against the authority of teachers over their classrooms. Lots of conservatives have been railing against millenial brats and their sense of entitlement and lack of respect for more than a decade. Your tone will revert right back there as soon as it doesn't suit a narrative to cry that an insubordinate student was treated so unfairly by a tyrannical and bias-driven teacher who probably had at least another thirty teenagers to supervise.
 
VanceMack said:
I take solace in knowing that at some point these adolescents will actually grow up and have fully functioning brains and understand life and the real world as adults. In the meantime...I’m fine with them protesting. But let’s be honest...it’s a handful of awl important little jerkweeds working with politicians and globalists that are the shrill squeaky wheels right now. Their star has already started to fade, especially with much of their rhetoric sounding as adolescent as it actually is.


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If it's a matter of age to have a fully functional brain, then how do you explain all the grown up adults who agree with the students and disagree with you?

This is why it's a failed and shameful tactic to call teenagers stupid just because one disagrees with them. Those students might form different opinions as they age. Most of us do. They might also maintain the opinions they're expressing now for the rest of their lives. What's certain is that Republicans and conservatives are hardening those young people by disrespecting them so forcefully and driving them as far away from their ideology as they can. Great plan.
 
Sandokan said:
High school students have been provided with an excuse to be violent. If their bad behavior is excuse, it will enable them to continue with their violent behavior. These young students are easily influence by grownups that will use them to move forward their agenda like gun control.

Video of Walmart employees cleaning up after the trashing.

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But the student who was disciplined for bad behavior was treated unfairly? Ok.
 
Saladin4 said:
I know I'm not letting you NRA types "define" it...Still funny they call it an ASSAULT weapon that is supposed to be used for "self -defense"
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NRA types do not define it, and neither do rabid anti-gunners like yourself. The US military defines what is or what is not an assault weapon. I'll give you just the basics as you obvious do not have the foggiest clue. An assault rifle is an automatic weapon. In auto mode, as long as you hold down the trigger, it will keep firing until you let go or run out of bullets. To put it in terms that you may understand. An assault rifle functions like a machine gun. And assault style rifle like the AR 15 is nothing more then a semi-automatic weapon made to look like a military m-16 automatic rifle. It does not have an auto-mode. It just looks mean. Fully automatic rifles (assault rifles) have been illegal for civilians to own since the prohibition era. You have to have a federal licence to possess one. Do you understand now?
 
Saladin4 said:
Best you look away this Saturday...Hundreds of thousands of students and concerned citizens will speak out for sensible , sane "Gun Control"....Your beloved NRA will be bashed, as they should be....Look away , you won't be pleased
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I am a lifetime NRA member and don't really give a **** what they protest. I want these kids to be safe, however I do not see them as adults. I just see them as impressionable kids being exploited by some very nasty characters in the democrat party politics. Whatever they say on Saturday, if I happen to hear any of it will go in one year and out the other. And the NRA membership rolls will continue to grow.
 
vegas giants said:
How dare these gun violence survivors have an opinion!
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Why are you referring to them all as gun violence survivors? It's a national protest, however only a miniscule tiny fraction of these students ever faced a school shooting or ever will.Don't be so dramatic.
 
Saladin4 said:
NBC news is extreme left?.....LOL....Maybe to the Bannon/Alex Jones types....
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Yes....Quite often NBC news is quite extreme left. As for Bannon and Alex Jones, sorry, but I am not part of their audience.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Why are you referring to them all as gun violence survivors? It's a national protest, however only a miniscule tiny fraction of these students ever faced a school shooting or ever will.Don't be so dramatic.
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The primary speakers are gun violence survivors. I am dramatic because it was pretty dramatic
 
Sandokan said:
High school students have been provided with an excuse to be violent. If their bad behavior is excuse, it will enable them to continue with their violent behavior. These young students are easily influence by grownups that will use them to move forward their agenda like gun control.

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Looks like some of them are turning into baby-ANTIFA thugs.
 
ObamacareFail said:
I am a lifetime NRA member and don't really give a **** what they protest. I want these kids to be safe, however I do not see them as adults. I just see them as impressionable kids being exploited by some very nasty characters in the democrat party politics. Whatever they say on Saturday, if I happen to hear any of it will go in one year and out the other. And the NRA membership rolls will continue to grow.
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Good....try to ignore it if you can...My guess you NRA types will fume and spit up oversells in anger and fear
 
Saladin4 said:
Good....try to ignore it if you can...My guess you NRA types will fume and spit up oversells in anger and fear
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You are very poor at guessing. You anti-gunners are the ones getting all emotional. Those of us in the NRA calmly sit back and take care of it on election day. Ask your buddy, Bill Clinton how the first midterms in 1994 worked out for him after the Brady Bill was passed.
 
Same students eating Tide Pods for fun (and dying) a month before?

Oh we should all follow such sage advice from the all-knowing teens... lol
 
:lamo

True Story

My nephew the other day who is 19 had enough. (technically an adult, LOL, right?) He told his mom that he was dropping out of college immediately. He said he doesn't want to go, never wanted to go and that he only did it for her.

She said, "Oh, you've had enough, huh? OK, well here's your choices, since you've had enough;

1. We're gonna go to the recruiter right now and you're going to join either the Army, Navy, Air Force or Marines.

or

2. You've got 30 days to get out of my house and find a new place to live with your big paycheck working PT at McDonalds.

No help will you receive from me out the door, no help will you receive from me after you're gone."

The kid went back to doing his homework for class due the next day.


This is how you handle children who've had enough.

As for the sniveling little ****s who want to march for taking away the God given, constitutionally protected rights of others?

BEAT THEIR ASS AND SEND THEM TO BED.

Had enough, lol, get the **** out of here....seriously....:lamo
 
MrMike said:
Same students eating Tide Pods for fun (and dying) a month before?

Oh we should all follow such sage advice from the all-knowing teens... lol
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Well, no. These teenagers are still alive, so they're probably not the ones who died from eating laundry detergent.
 
ChezC3 said:
:lamo

True Story

My nephew the other day who is 19 had enough. (technically an adult, LOL, right?) He told his mom that he was dropping out of college immediately. He said he doesn't want to go, never wanted to go and that he only did it for her.

She said, "Oh, you've had enough, huh? OK, well here's your choices, since you've had enough;

1. We're gonna go to the recruiter right now and you're going to join either the Army, Navy, Air Force or Marines.

or

2. You've got 30 days to get out of my house and find a new place to live with your big paycheck working PT at McDonalds.

No help will you receive from me out the door, no help will you receive from me after you're gone."

The kid went back to doing his homework for class due the next day.


This is how you handle children who've had enough.

As for the sniveling little ****s who want to march for taking away the God given, constitutionally protected rights of others?

BEAT THEIR ASS AND SEND THEM TO BED.

Had enough, lol, get the **** out of here....seriously....:lamo
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You a big tough guy that wants beat up High School kids?.......What a joke....
 
Saladin4 said:
You a big tough guy that wants beat up High School kids?.......What a joke....
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Spare the rod, spoil the child

you know...

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