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They've had enough. Students across country walk out to demand new gun laws

OlNate said:
You were in high school when Columbine happened? Dang, I would have put you a lot older than that...huh, interesting.

But speaking of apples and oranges, there have been 25 school shootings since Columbine. It shouldn't be surprising that as the number of school shootings continues to go up, with less and less time between them, that people are getting more afraid. Sure, the media plays a part, because it's a big story, and the run the **** out of it, but it doesn't change the statistics. Which is probably why there is a greater fear response than when Columbine happened...almost 20 years ago.

Again, this all goes to why people are afraid, and why that fear is understandable. But I feel like maybe you're smart enough to know that, even if you are too partisan to admit it.
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in which most if all of them could have been stopped had existing laws been enforced.
 
Saladin4 said:
So you do think the Students were paid?.....Fake News?...No I can't quote anything from Fox right now but I'm sure by days end they'll come up with some fake Bull**** they'll peddle to their viewers
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I can't understand that rambling.

show me the list of credible GOPers who have claimed these kids are being paid. Someone put this talking point in your head. I want to see you back it up. Go.
 
ludin said:
you need to read the constitution it isn't a perceived right it is a right.

When you allow for 1 right to be whittled away others can follow. I don't think you want to make that argument
since you enjoy your perceived right of free speech.
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Everybody can read he "constitution" , the issue is the "interpretation" of it.....The NRA types have twisted it to suit their paranoid fantasies it appears to me, similar to Jihadists in the Middle East with the Koran
 
Goshin said:
No, I'm dismissing the way children are being cynically used for political purposes they mostly don't understand by adults with an agenda, an agenda that isn't primarily focused on the safety of schoolchildren.
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You don't have any evidence that children are being used by adults with an agenda. It's a boring and dishonest narrative invented by people who like guns. By the way, I like guns too. I just won't insult high school students in order to support them.
 
I just let my #2 son (the 18 year old) read this entire thread. After he finished he thanked me for being a good mother and not insulting his existence and ability to think for himself. He saw the post I made about how he may vote in November. He said "I think you already know. Please don't tell Dad."

Well done, Republicans. Good way to push new voters away.
 
Saladin4 said:
Indeed , America is not Australia...They haven't had mass slaughters of children in their schools , monthly......We are (unfortunately) not Australia
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they still have plenty of mass shootings though. looks like their strict gun laws didn't stop them.
 
JoeTrumps said:
I can't understand that rambling.

show me the list of credible GOPers who have claimed these kids are being paid. Someone put this talking point in your head. I want to see you back it up. Go.
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Don't understand Joe?...Yet you respond....So you "kind" of understand...Actually you totally understand because you believe it......These students couldn't possibly organized these walkouts on their own...Could they???
 
OlNate said:
You were in high school when Columbine happened? Dang, I would have put you a lot older than that...huh, interesting.
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A lot older? I guess I just have the soul of a salty old man

But speaking of apples and oranges, there have been 25 school shootings since Columbine. It shouldn't be surprising that as the number of school shootings continues to go up, with less and less time between them, that people are getting more afraid. Sure, the media plays a part, because it's a big story, and the run the **** out of it, but it doesn't change the statistics. Which is probably why there is a greater fear response than when Columbine happened...almost 20 years ago.

Again, this all goes to why people are afraid, and why that fear is understandable. But I feel like maybe you're smart enough to know that, even if you are too partisan to admit it.
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I know why people are afraid, I just think its ignorant to be afraid
 
Saladin4 said:
Everybody can read he "constitution" , the issue is the "interpretation" of it.....The NRA types have twisted it to suit their paranoid fantasies it appears to me, similar to Jihadists in the Middle East with the Koran
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yep you really don't have free speech just your interpretation of free speech.
hmm interesting concept you have.

you really don't have a right of the 4th amendment just a your interpretation of it.
the only people that twist the 2nd amendment into something else is people like you.
 
tres borrachos said:
I just let my #2 son (the 18 year old) read this entire thread. After he finished he thanked me for being a good mother and not insulting his existence and ability to think for himself. He saw the post I made about how he may vote in November. He said "I think you already know. Please don't tell Dad."

Well done, Republicans. Good way to push new voters away.
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It's typical. When you're young and stupid, you buy into that lw bs.

When you get older , you wisen up.
 
tres borrachos said:
I just let my #2 son (the 18 year old) read this entire thread. After he finished he thanked me for being a good mother and not insulting his existence and ability to think for himself. He saw the post I made about how he may vote in November. He said "I think you already know. Please don't tell Dad."

Well done, Republicans. Good way to push new voters away.
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He'll be back. "If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain"
 
KLATTU said:
It's typical. When you're young and stupid, you buy into that lw bs.

When you get older , you wisen up.
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You still aren't "hanging" around the student rally are you?...Leave those Kids Alone
 
tres borrachos said:
I like you Pirate, but your post was indefensible. A 7 year old can't protect himself with a rock against a man holding an AR to his face while he's crowded in with 10 of his classmates in a 5x5 bathroom.

For you to lay the burden of guilt on the parents of those children who died that day is inexcusable.

I know the parents of one of the children killed in Sandy Hook. I will ignore your posts about this subject now because if I think about them much more I'm likely going to say some ugly things to you.
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I've been similarly offended by people who dismiss or misunderstand Columbine who clearly have never suffered comparable loss. In fact, the only person I have ever blocked on DP made that mistake. I recommend your decision to ignore hateful speech.
 
tres borrachos said:
I just let my #2 son (the 18 year old) read this entire thread. After he finished he thanked me for being a good mother and not insulting his existence and ability to think for himself. He saw the post I made about how he may vote in November. He said "I think you already know. Please don't tell Dad."

Well done, Republicans. Good way to push new voters away.
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no one is pushing him away he is making up hi own mind which he is free to do so.
I am also free to say that he needs to learn about guns, gun safety and that no law is going to
stop someone from carrying out their plan.


There are already laws place federal laws even about reporting people with mental illnesses.
There are even state laws on the books about it pretty much every state.

yet that didn't stop it from happening.

why? law enforcement didn't do their job to prevent it.
What you need to ask your son is why is it important to put more restrictions on law abiding citizens?

that is the only thing those laws are going to affect is the people that already follow them.
The people that are going to want to do him harm do not care.

critical thinking not emotional based arguments.

The fact is he is more likely to be killed in a car accident than shot by a gun.
So what should we do about that.
 
Goshin said:
No, I'm dismissing the way children are being cynically used for political purposes they mostly don't understand by adults with an agenda, an agenda that isn't primarily focused on the safety of schoolchildren.
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These students understand the issues far better than those with a nonsensical interpretation of the 2nd amendment.
We're dismissing those who are dismissing our students, for they will soon become 'dust in the wind'.

There is still time for everyone to hop on the train of common-sense.
The train to a better and safer America still has many stops to make ...
 
tres borrachos said:
I just let my #2 son (the 18 year old) read this entire thread. After he finished he thanked me for being a good mother and not insulting his existence and ability to think for himself. He saw the post I made about how he may vote in November. He said "I think you already know. Please don't tell Dad."

Well done, Republicans. Good way to push new voters away.
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no one is pushing him away he is making up his own mind which he is free to do so.
I am also free to say that he needs to learn about guns, gun safety and that no law is going to
stop someone from carrying out their plan.


There are already laws place federal laws even about reporting people with mental illnesses.
There are even state laws on the books about it pretty much every state.

yet that didn't stop it from happening.

why? law enforcement didn't do their job to prevent it.
What you need to ask your son is why is it important to put more restrictions on law abiding citizens?

that is the only thing those laws are going to affect is the people that already follow them.
The people that are going to want to do him harm do not care.

critical thinking not emotional based arguments.

The fact is he is more likely to be killed in a car accident than shot by a gun.
So what should we do about that?
 
Fearandloathing said:
Sorry but I think you have the wrong thread. This is abut students exercising their first amendment rights and registering their opposition to last century's practices coming into THEIR world.

It's the other guys who talk cheap. You can get to them with #trump I think.
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And you've mistaken me for someone who chooses a political side...they ALL talk cheap but never walk the walk...and today will more than likely accomplish nothing...but it makes people feel good...whatever...
 
NIMBY said:
These students understand the issues far better than those with a nonsensical interpretation of the 2nd amendment.
We're dismissing those who are dismissing our students, for they will soon become 'dust in the wind'.

There is still time for everyone to hop on the train of common-sense.
The train to a better and safer America still has many stops to make ...
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So tell us what laws would have stopped this? please so far you guys strike out every time on this question.
 
Crovax said:
A lot older? I guess I just have the soul of a salty old man



I know why people are afraid, I just think its ignorant to be afraid
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Ya, salty old man was the image I had, to be honest. Believe it or not, that got you a pass...you're f-ed now... ;)

It's HUMAN to be afraid. And we're talking about children here, so it's even more understandable. I'm not saying they are right, or that their "solution" will work. But I think the pile up by some on them is just as ignorant (albeit under other meaning of "ignorant").

Let them feel like they have some power for the day, let them get engaged. Look at their cry for help not as a solution, but an impetus to do SOMETHING. Not "anything", that's dumb, but put some real thought into it, and figure out how to stop kids from getting killed in schools. After you peel away all the partisan garbage and knee jerk idiocy, it's a pretty reasonable ask, and if the government can keep kids safe in school, WTF good are they?
 
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