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AP: House Dems Cite 'Evidence' Of Trump Russia Collusion

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don't blame me for the quotes around "evidence" in AP's headline, that's the editor's work, i wouldn't go there myself, but it's quite telling

Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee are sharply disagreeing with Republicans on the panel who say they don't see any evidence of collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign and Russia.

California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the panel, said Tuesday that he believes there is "significant evidence" of collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia, though he couldn't say if there was criminal wrongdoing.
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https://www.ourmidland.com/news/pol...ts-cite-evidence-of-Trump-Russia-12751486.php

schiff came out, good for him, and here's what he has to say

he still sees collusion

the evidence he cites in his 22 page report as described by AP is really 2---trump tower meeting, george papadopoulos

it appears that's the vast bulk of his case

last week on the view he said the same thing

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ence_of_treasonous_collusion_with_russia.html

all the evidence, he said, was in the "public domain"

mueller may know more than schiff, but the sheriff knows a lot

and after a year, that's what he's got

trump tower and papadopoulos

it's all you've got, it's all you ever had

maybe more will come

but after a year it is what it is

collusion is dead

have you seen this?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/em-saturday-night-live-apos-170846927.html

everybody's talking about it

(you know how "everybody" is)

it's kinda funny

the truth today appears to be:

russian trolls worked to sew general discord

blm, pro and anti muslim, TX secession, nra, the bernie sanders coloring book, pro and anti trump rallies on the same day

https://images.search.yahoo.com/sea...01d8318d449cec7483145cd8a1d65c71&action=click

as a part of that general discord strategy, damaging hrc was certainly important

the trolls worked as hard for bernie as for the don

they spent $3000 on facebook ads in WI, MI and PA, 98% of the WI buy came before the primary

the majority of spending was after 11-8-16

Facebook VP Calls Out MSM for Distorting Russian Troll Ads

as you know

as linked

i'd like to tell you what's in nunes' 150 page full report

but i know how upset you get when i talk

party on
 
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The Trump Tower meeting is clearly evidence of collusion between the highest level of Trump campaign officials and the Russians to break the law on campaign contributions from foreign sources. If there is nothing else besides what they already have on this - its enough for criminal convictions.
 
Dems will drag this out until they win another major election. Then they get paid back in spades and the shoe will be again on the other foot.
 
Lovebug said:
Dems will drag this out until they win another major election. Then they get paid back in spades and the shoe will be again on the other foot.
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Don't you love the feel of inserting a warm foot into a fresh shoe?
 
It's painfully obvious that Devin Nunes is just a water-boy for Trump. Ryan should have replaced him on the HIC long ago.

But Ryan is no better. It's a shame the GOP as a rule now places partisan politics and hackery above country.
 
what I have learned personally from all of this & the Trump presidency is one thing & one thing ONLY:

I will never again, as long as I am breathing, ever vote for any GOP candidate in any race, ever again, even if it's an election for 'dog catcher'

Thank you Donald Trump; you cured my ass of Republicans :cool: ............ for LIFE ............

now, I can honestly say that Trump actually did one good thing in his life; almost ........
 
Rogue Valley said:
It's painfully obvious that Devin Nunes is just a water-boy for Trump. Ryan should have replaced him on the HIC long ago.

But Ryan is no better. It's a shame the GOP as a rule now places partisan politics and hackery above country.
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Ryan has really disappointed me in the last year. I thought he was above such hackery. I think I was wrong.
 
haymarket said:
The Trump Tower meeting is clearly evidence of collusion between the highest level of Trump campaign officials and the Russians to break the law on campaign contributions from foreign sources. If there is nothing else besides what they already have on this - its enough for criminal convictions.
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I'm still not 100% sure of what the Trump Tower meeting is evidence of, but I completely reject the GOP's position that it's a big old nothing because the Russians "exaggerated". That was absolutely insulting to any clear thinking American.
 
cuban smokes said:
what I have learned personally from all of this & the Trump presidency is one thing & one thing ONLY:

I will never again, as long as I am breathing, ever vote for any GOP candidate in any race, ever again, even if it's an election for 'dog catcher'

Thank you Donald Trump; you cured my ass of Republicans :cool: ............ for LIFE ............

now, I can honestly say that Trump actually did one good thing in his life; almost ........
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And what I have learned is the liberal arrogance has no end and they will continue any effort to overturn the election and to promote their idea of Utopia which is a massive central govt. that "provides" everything the left wants totally ignoring that Federal Bureaucrats have no incentive or keep costs down or actually solve social problems because that destroys their power. Still have no idea why liberals are so arrogant and why they continue to promote the leftwing ideology but here is a great article that o course will be ignored by the radical left showing their arrogance as they certainly will provide better results than the past group of liberals

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/arti...g-venezuela-and-americans-dont-seem-to-notice
 
tres borrachos said:
I'm still not 100% sure of what the Trump Tower meeting is evidence of, but I completely reject the GOP's position that it's a big old nothing because the Russians "exaggerated". That was absolutely insulting to any clear thinking American.
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One more time, collusion to do what, change people's minds or to promote discord in the election process?? You still don't get it and probably never will but propaganda is always part of every election process and since no votes were hacked this is all that happened if indeed it did happen. How long are you going to promote this witch hunt and don't you see this is exactly what Russia hoped to do?
 
Conservative said:
And what I have learned is the liberal arrogance has no end and they will continue any effort to overturn the election and to promote their idea of Utopia which is a massive central govt. that "provides" everything the left wants totally ignoring that Federal Bureaucrats have no incentive or keep costs down or actually solve social problems because that destroys their power. Still have no idea why liberals are so arrogant and why they continue to promote the leftwing ideology but here is a great article that o course will be ignored by the radical left showing their arrogance as they certainly will provide better results than the past group of liberals

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/arti...g-venezuela-and-americans-dont-seem-to-notice
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well, that is just lovely ................
 
Is Schiff-for-brains releasing actual evidence, or just "leads to be followed?"
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Posting in such

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Leads to disinterest in the subject

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Prof's posts and his style is legendary here. He's been gone for a while.

He's on point, and it fascinating the way he can be without blathering on.
 
Lovebug said:
Dems will drag this out until they win another major election. Then they get paid back in spades and the shoe will be again on the other foot.
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Odd to claim that Dems will drag this out when Mueller is a life long conservative republican appointed by another life long conservative republican.
 
tres borrachos said:
I'm still not 100% sure of what the Trump Tower meeting is evidence of, but I completely reject the GOP's position that it's a big old nothing because the Russians "exaggerated". That was absolutely insulting to any clear thinking American.
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It's evidence of a meeting in Trump Tower. You nailed it. Such meetings have taken place between Russia and Washingtonians thousands of times for decades.
 
Conservative said:
One more time, collusion to do what, change people's minds or to promote discord in the election process?? You still don't get it and probably never will but propaganda is always part of every election process and since no votes were hacked this is all that happened if indeed it did happen. How long are you going to promote this witch hunt and don't you see this is exactly what Russia hoped to do?
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Let me know if you can find the word "collusion" anywhere in that post of mine that you quoted.

Well done making a stupid post.
 
Erod said:
It's evidence of a meeting in Trump Tower. You nailed it. Such meetings have taken place between Russia and Washingtonians thousands of times for decades.
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I'll take your word for this. I've never been made aware of any meetings set (and accepted) so the "Russian crown" representative can share official documents that would help the recipient's campaign and torpedo his opponent's campaign, as the offer was made below.

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras [a Moscow-based developer who tried to partner with Trump in a hotel project] this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary [Clinton] and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump – helped along by Aras and Emin.


But I'm sure you can share some specific examples with me of the thousands of times this happened?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Posting in such

a convoluted and inchoate

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Leads to disinterest in the subject

matter.
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But that your posting style ever reached that high level...

He laid it out quite simply, its what all sane folk have known for more than a year, the collusion thing was a mere mask to cover Hillary's loss and give time to those within our goverment attempting to subvert the election in her favor, having failed in spectacularly humiliating fashion, to shift quickly into cover up mode.

These traitors went on the offensive, started a bunch of fires and started trying to hide the treason best they can.

That should be easy enough a format for you follow...or not? :lamo:lamo:lamo

Try not to just ad hom out of the pickle jar in response, eh? Oh yeah, thats all you got. I understand, go ahead, post your sillineses away, its free, almost like welfare...it just more heavily taxes the reasoned.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Posting in such

a convoluted and inchoate

manner

Leads to disinterest in the subject

matter.
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I've come to find that posters that do that (along with colored or unusual font) usually don't have anything interesting to add. They're just looking for attention.


Plus it makes it easier to identify and skip their posts. :shrug:
 
Conservative said:
And what I have learned is the liberal arrogance has no end and they will continue any effort to overturn the election and to promote their idea of Utopia which is a massive central govt. that "provides" everything the left wants totally ignoring that Federal Bureaucrats have no incentive or keep costs down or actually solve social problems because that destroys their power. Still have no idea why liberals are so arrogant and why they continue to promote the leftwing ideology but here is a great article that o course will be ignored by the radical left showing their arrogance as they certainly will provide better results than the past group of liberals

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/arti...g-venezuela-and-americans-dont-seem-to-notice
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Kinda like.....


What about.....



BEGAZI FOR CHRIST'S SAKE< REINVESTIGATE IT FOR 20 YEARS IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO MANUFACTURE INDICTMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
tres borrachos said:
Let me know if you can find the word "collusion" anywhere in that post of mine that you quoted.

Well done making a stupid post.
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Then what is this issue since collusion involves the breaking of some law and since you haven't shown any nor has Mueller end the endless investigation
 
markjs said:
Kinda like.....


What about.....



BEGAZI FOR CHRIST'S SAKE< REINVESTIGATE IT FOR 20 YEARS IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO MANUFACTURE INDICTMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Benghazi cost the lives of 4 Americans INCLUDING AN AMBASSADOR!!! No comparison at all in spite of the warped minds of the radical left
 
Conservative said:
Then what is this issue since collusion involves the breaking of some law and since you haven't shown any nor has Mueller end the endless investigation
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Fascinating. And since you quoted my post to haymarket which was specific to what he posted, you didn't pay attention, and went off the rails. Not my fault.

Next time when you want to jump into a discussion I'd suggest reading the posts. I never mentioned collusion, and I specifically said that I have no idea what that meeting is evidence of. I commented on the words of the Republicans on the committee.

Just stop and direct your hysterics to someone who is yakking about collusion and Mueller.
 
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