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Trump ousts Tillerson, will replace him as secretary of state with CIA chief Pompeo

vesper said:
I just think he did a poor job of handling it. But this isn't the first time he has frosted my flakes in the way he has handled others in his cabinet using that dang twitter to embarrass them.

Today the WSJ made it clear they didn't care for the way he treats his appointees .

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...p-show-more-loyalty-and-respect-to-appointees
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This is classic Trump, those who fail get treated poorly, it is intended to discourage the practice of failing.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
This is classic Trump, those who fail get treated poorly, it is intended to discourage the practice of failing.
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Yep, after the first thirty or so high level staff departures, things are sure to pick up!
 
Deuce said:
Yep, after the first thirty or so high level staff departures, things are sure to pick up!
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Look, I dont like it either but this is how Trump always works, and he is not going to change now in order to meet our expectations of "Presidential".
 
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tres borrachos said:
You didn't disappoint me. You apparently didn't follow along. Trump said he wasn't going anywhere, and it was discussed and referenced on this board. You know, what that poster asked for some specific examples of "your side" saying Tillerson wasn't going anywhere - the part you said he was confused about. He wasn't. He was right.
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Maybe not. When I am responding on tapatalk, during the day, I am basically responding to emails from a smartphone. I am not sitting in front of a computer terminal with quick access to the entire forum. My apologies. However, having said that, I am aware of Trump at one time saying Tillerson was going not going anywhere. At the time, he had no intention of replacing him. However, the SOS still serves at the pleasure of the president. Just because Trump once said Tillerson is not going anywhere does not obligate him to keep Tillerson on indefinately.

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vesper said:
I just think he did a poor job of handling it. But this isn't the first time he has frosted my flakes in the way he has handled others in his cabinet using that dang twitter to embarrass them.

Today the WSJ made it clear they didn't care for the way he treats his appointees .

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...p-show-more-loyalty-and-respect-to-appointees
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Greetings, Vesper. :2wave:

He doesn't seem to care what anyone thinks - will he make an exception for the WSJ? Vesper, this is the strangest Presidency I have ever seen! He's had accomplishments, and that's appreciated by many people, but I don't understand the reasoning behind all the melodramatics we are seeing. :roll:
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Vesper. :2wave:

He doesn't seem to care what anyone thinks - will he make an exception for the WSJ? Vesper, this is the strangest Presidency I have ever seen! He's had accomplishments, and that's appreciated by many people, but I don't understand the reasoning behind all the melodramatics we are seeing. :roll:
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It's a nontraditional presidency, however the novelty is that Trump is following through on his promises. He is more or less accomplishing what he campaigned on, whereas the establishment politicians in both parties elected before him have merely followed the bouncing ball(big donors). The latter is why Trump was able to tap into a raging populist movement that the two major parties refused to acknowledge. He certainly creates some of his own problems at times with his tweets, however overall, his use of social media has prevented the MSM from destroying him. I'll take the nontraditional president over the establishment politicians we have been electing in the last three decades. We have a major tax cut. Corporate taxes have been lowered. American manufacturers are moving back from overseas and many of them are passing out sizable bonuses and hiring more employees. The individual Obamacare mandate has been repealed. We are renegotiating or getting out of two trade treaties that have not been benefiting Americans, and we are even getting out of the Paris Climate Accord. And the North Korea situation may get solved. If all of that is chaos, I'll take it.
 
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Erod said:
Hey, Trump just named the first woman ever to be head of the CIA. Somehow I think your DNA won't allow you to celebrate that.

And yes, the whole concept of "cultural appropriation" just bleeds of the entirety of the successful brainwashing that liberals have perpetrated on the black community in America. They're like robots. It's truly a human catastrophe what the DNC has done to them.
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Yes - one that could be in trouble over her torture issues..........but hey sounds great doesn't it??
 
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TU Curmudgeon said:
I have no idea since I am not "The Left".



So you would agree with the government if Mr. Trump decided that something like "making being a Muslim a capital offence" or "nuking Berlin" had to be done in order to "protect this country and it's citizens from harm" would you?
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Yes I would. FWIW, we'be bombed the crap out of Berlin before.
 
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Are those numbers accurate or did someone simply make them up?

If they are accurate, then (in my opinion) that's a pretty pee-poor way to run a business.

If someone simply made them up, then (in my opinion) they shouldn't have.
 
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WCH said:
Yes I would. FWIW, we'be bombed the crap out of Berlin before.
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I thank you, my mother thanks you, and my fuehrer thanks you for making your political position clear.
 
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WCH said:
You family can thank me later when we're all safe and sound.
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Since I live in a country where we don't have an average of one "mass murder" per day (and where we haven't had some idiot killing school children because they were upset over the fact that they couldn't get laid in years, and years, and years [and where I can walk down an unlit alley in any part of any major city at any time of the day or night with less than a 0.0001% chance of being mugged {and the police will not stop and question you just because you are on foot and not "White"}]) I rather suspect that I don't really have to wait until "later" to be "safe and sound".

Can you say the same thing?
 
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Mike Pompeo Has a Problem With Islam

Mike Pompeo, Trump’s Pick for Secretary of State, Has a Problem With Islam

In June of 2013, two months after the bombing at the Boston Marathon, then-Congressman Mike Pompeo took to the House floor and criticized Muslim leaders across the country for failing to condemn the attack, even though many of them had. This alleged “silence” made “Islamic leaders across America potentially complicit in these acts” of terrorism, said Pompeo, who will be the next secretary of State if President Trump gets his way.

Pompeo’s history as an Islamophobe is no secret, and given his statement on the House floor, not something he’s ever tried to hide. But given his potential ascendance to secretary of State, statements like the one above and his acceptance of an award from ACT for America, a group classified as the “largest anti-Muslim group in the United States” by the Anti-Defamation League, are drawing new scrutiny.
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An Islamophobic Sec of State? Gotta be kidding me, right???
 
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JacksinPA said:
Mike Pompeo Has a Problem With Islam

Mike Pompeo, Trump’s Pick for Secretary of State, Has a Problem With Islam

In June of 2013, two months after the bombing at the Boston Marathon, then-Congressman Mike Pompeo took to the House floor and criticized Muslim leaders across the country for failing to condemn the attack, even though many of them had. This alleged “silence” made “Islamic leaders across America potentially complicit in these acts” of terrorism, said Pompeo, who will be the next secretary of State if President Trump gets his way.

Pompeo’s history as an Islamophobe is no secret, and given his statement on the House floor, not something he’s ever tried to hide. But given his potential ascendance to secretary of State, statements like the one above and his acceptance of an award from ACT for America, a group classified as the “largest anti-Muslim group in the United States” by the Anti-Defamation League, are drawing new scrutiny.
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An Islamophobic Sec of State? Gotta be kidding me, right???
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I'm surprised that Pompeo is an Islamophobe, but I'm not at all surprised that the president picked an Islamophobe for SoS.
 
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Phobias are fears, "Islamophobia" is fear of Muslims. The high incidence of terrorism among Muslims supports a reasonable fear of them since terrorism is generally fatal.
 
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Plus Ultra said:
Phobias are fears, "Islamophobia" is fear of Muslims. The high incidence of terrorism among Muslims supports a reasonable fear of them since terrorism is generally fatal.
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So following your argument, why not pull an FDR, round them all up & put them in Alex Jones' FEMA camps like FDR did to the Japanese living on the West Coast? We had a 'reasonable fear' of Japs after Pearl Harbor.
 
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Plus Ultra said:
Phobias are fears, "Islamophobia" is fear of Muslims. The high incidence of terrorism among Muslims supports a reasonable fear of them since terrorism is generally fatal.
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No, it's not reasonable, but if you're trying to rationalize an irrational fear of 24% of the global population, feel free to keep that to yourself.
 
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Every day I see news about some mosque in Iraq or Pakistan getting attacked by a suicide bomber, this is not at all unusual. People who have studied this tell us terrorist attacks in Muslim countries get a lot less coverage in western media, it's just not "news". The frequent terrorist attacks in Muslim countries are typically perpetrated by "suicide bombers" (jihadees) who wear the explosives they detonate in markets or mosques. There is a distinctly religious element to these frequent terrorist attacks in the Muslim world, the perpetrators are celebrated as "martyrs" of the jihad, they attack gatherings of Shia muslims. In 2015 four Islamic extremist groups were responsible for 74% of all deaths from terrorism: ISIS, Boko Haram, the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, according to the Global Terrorism Index 2016.
 
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