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Australian Diplomat Whose Tip Prompted FBI’s Russia-probe Has Ties to Clintons

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Khayembii Communique said:
Yeah in the post I quoted you asked me a question that isn't relevant to the thread. What does the question "what did popadopoulous do that the hillary campaign did not with the dossier?" have to do with this thread, or with this gentleman who you are somehow trying to insinuate is part of some kind of conspiracy theory?

Further, how is me asking what you mean by this thread going off topic? You posted an article about this guy having ties to Clinton, implying that you think there is some kind of collusion here or something fishy going on. All I asked you to do was explain what you meant by that implication. The above question is off topic to this thread and that question.
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It's my thread, I made the relevance in the op.


the point the other guy admitted it or not is irrellevant tot he point. What I am asking is that when is it more than coincidence given at every level we are discovering people close to the clintons or the clintons themselves involved in the evidence gathered thus far.
 
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markjs said:
Oh noes! Soros and the deep state! I hope your tinfoil hat is intact?
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soros is a scumbag. his motives are not for the benefit of this great nation.
 
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Rexedgar said:
You missed your true calling!
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One can point out things wrong with an investigation without being a supporter of the investigated. I challenge you and your ilk to think smarter. ;)
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
It's amazing, "libertarian", how easily you and your ilk miss the point.
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Ah, another wing-nut that thinks they get to determine if I'm "libertarian enough".

You have no point. Just conspiracy theories, guilt by association, and an ignorance of the overall picture that just goes to show you're still stuck in Clinton derangement, and are fanatically committed to this authoritarian presidency you wish to defend at all costs.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
It's my thread, I made the relevance in the op.


the point the other guy admitted it or not is irrellevant tot he point. What I am asking is that when is it more than coincidence given at every level we are discovering people close to the clintons or the clintons themselves involved in the evidence gathered thus far.
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Okay, so how was this gentleman involved in this conspiracy, then? What do you think he did that was wrong or suspect?
 
Fenton said:
:lamo

After two years of investigations you people and the media are currently putting all your hopes on a Russian prostitute serving time in a Thailand prison for sex crimes

Im not kidding either.

DESPERATE : CNN meets with jailed sex coach in Thailand to prove Russian collusion
https://www.dailywire.com/news/27875/desperate-cnn-meets-jailed-sex-coach-thailand-ryan-saavedra?amp
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No, no one is putting all their hopes on that.

Your desperation is likely at the source of your dishonesty.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
One can point out things wrong with an investigation without being a supporter of the investigated. I challenge you and your ilk to think smarter. ;)
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What a load of ****.

You think anybody believes you're not a Trump supporter? Give me a break.
 
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MovingPictures said:
Ah, another wing-nut that thinks they get to determine if I'm "libertarian enough".
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How are you a libertarian? you are simply a typical leftist who want to live off us cool guys belief in liberty.


Are you for or against me owning an ar15 with a 30 round magazine? are you for progressive taxation? Are you for universal healthcare? Are you for drug legalization? Are you for lowering taxes, are you for shrinking government?

Why is your libertarianism hyphenated? What's "left" about it?

Lets start there. this wont take long.



You have no point. Just conspiracy theories, guilt by association, and an ignorance of the overall picture that just goes to show you're still stuck in Clinton derangement seventeen months after the election, and are fanatically committed to this authoritarian presidency you wish to defend at all costs.
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I did not nor would I vote for trump, He's a populist and a statist. Things I do not support. At the same time, that will not preclude me from pointing out things that are far to coincidental to be an accident.

You are the plind partisan my friend, not I.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
You whine about trump supporters (I am not one), and you link to that international criminal george soro's website? Do you really want to have no credibility here?
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I've yet to meet any brand of conservative that wasn't myopic as hell. You guys on the right (and I'm thinking of one really in particular, not you), act as if those on the left should have no grievance with the orange combover piece of ****. I gave a list of grievances, to be dismissed. Admittedly it's a left biased site, but they are known for factual reporting, and if you saty in the sheltered little Fox news (or whtaver your right wing media preference is) ignoring anything that disagrees with you, idealizing as past that never was, bemoaning anything that disagrees with your reality, and so in love with the agenda you make excuse for the president, and then claim your "not a trump fan" yet you cling to any excuse to believe that everyone is "out to get him". They're out to get hium because he's a corrupt businessman and likely a traitorous criminal. Now you run along and find more whackjob theories protecting Trump, like a good little Trumpling and deny your love for him all you like. I'm sure he appreciates your MAGA attitude!
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Isn't it amazing how many times the clinton's hands are in the russian collusion cookie jar? What's interesting is why did the fbi hide the fact about this source from congress?

I think we will find this fake russian collusion idiocy was started by the clintons, and if it's found to be true, there should be consequences for this. do you not agree? [/FONT][/COLOR]
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The "whataboutism's" get weaker and more absurd by the hour. Next were going to find out that the FISA Court judge went to the same law school as Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Speaking of associations, THIS is why we have an investigation:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...ies-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ign-met-with-russians/?utm_term=.a5b0383bec73

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a53134/trump-administration-russia-ties/


These are the things that need to be understood, for the sake of decency, for the sake of election integrity; for the sake of democracy and for the sake of our existence, because "democracy dies in darkness."

ReverendHellh0und said:
It's amazing, "libertarian", how easily you and your ilk miss the point.
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In all fairness to MovingPictures, its easy to "miss the point" when there is none to be found.

I, for one, see no point to the original post. Please explain to all of us why we should be outraged by a guy that was involved in aids funding 10 years ago is a co-conspirator with Clinton's. Even if he was, don't you think that Trump hiring all of these people with Russian affiliations, having Russia interfere in our elections and then never doing much about it is the real issue?
 
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MovingPictures said:
What a load of ****.

You think anybody believes you're not a Trump supporter? Give me a break.
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I'm searching for an intellectual argument in this post but I am struggling here.


22 points I disagree with trump on.


1. Reinstated Clintons 1033 program giving police tanks.
2. Sessions recent anouncement on enforcing federal marijuana rules.
3. his support for single payer (yes thats actually what he supports)
4. failure to pull us out of foreign conflicts.
5. failure to truly overhaul the tax system
6. failure to repeal and replace obamacare
7. hes far too statist/populist
8. his tweets are usually dumb. Some are very entertaining but usually they are cringe worthy
9. I am against the wall, instead dry up benefits upon illegal entry
10. against his infrastructure plan
11. I am against his pro-affirmative action stance
12. I am against stop and frisk, he is for it.
13. I am against his pro-prison stance
14. I am against his strong pro eminent domain views.
15. I am against paid family leave
16. against his view on cuba
17. I am against much of his import tax views
18. I am against the f-35 jet program
19. His travel ban forgets saudi arabia and other countries that should be on it.
20. he's for the patriot act, I am not.
21. hes for a higher minimum wage, I am for what the market bears,
22. I'm against his position on limiting guns and a new AWB.
 
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Khayembii Communique said:
Okay, so how was this gentleman involved in this conspiracy, then? What do you think he did that was wrong or suspect?
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I've already stated, it's nothing to do with one individual, it's how the investigation all seem to have roots that go back to the opposition campaign.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
I've already stated, it's nothing to do with one individual, it's how the investigation all seem to have roots that go back to the opposition campaign.
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Okay so the individual didn't do anything wrong?
 
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markjs said:
I've yet to meet any brand of conservative that wasn't myopic as hell. You guys on the right (and I'm thinking of one really in particular, not you), act as if those on the left should have no grievance with the orange combover piece of ****. I gave a list of grievances, to be dismissed. Admittedly it's a left biased site, but they are known for factual reporting, and if you saty in the sheltered little Fox news (or whtaver your right wing media preference is) ignoring anything that disagrees with you, idealizing as past that never was, bemoaning anything that disagrees with your reality, and so in love with the agenda you make excuse for the president, and then claim your "not a trump fan" yet you cling to any excuse to believe that everyone is "out to get him". They're out to get hium because he's a corrupt businessman and likely a traitorous criminal. Now you run along and find more whackjob theories protecting Trump, like a good little Trumpling and deny your love for him all you like. I'm sure he appreciates your MAGA attitude!
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Sorry, I lost interest in reading your little tantrum.
 
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upsideguy said:
The "whataboutism's" get weaker and more absurd by the hour. Next were going to find out that the FISA Court judge went to the same law school as Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Speaking of associations, THIS is why we have an investigation:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...ies-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ign-met-with-russians/?utm_term=.a5b0383bec73

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a53134/trump-administration-russia-ties/


These are the things that need to be understood, for the sake of decency, for the sake of election integrity; for the sake of democracy and for the sake of our existence, because "democracy dies in darkness."
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Democracy dies when the opposition party creates fake evidence to go after a democratically elected president and you and your ilk lap it all up as fast as you can.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
You think it's just coincidence that everything involved with the investigation the clintons are not far away?
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Ok, I'll bite.

How are the Clintons involved with Carter Page and how did they make Trump pick a suspected Russian spy to be a foreign-policy adviser?

How did the Clintons force Trump to pick Manafort to run his campaign for free while he was in debt up to his eyeballs in dirty Russian debt?

How did the Clintons force DT jr to take a meeting with Russian officials to dish out dirt on the Clinton campaign?

How did they force Trump to lie about the meeting and say it was about Russian adoptions?

How did they force GP to go on a drunken rant about Russia having dirt on Hillary?

This is the problem Rev. You are just asking silly questions and pretending like it's actually a problem that the Clintons show up every now and then on an investigation that is wide reaching and has already indicted numerous people and has shown us that time and time again the Trump administration/campaign has lied at every turn about their communications. They can't force them to make up lies. The clintons have been in the white house, she has been secretary of state, a congress woman, ran a widely respected global charity and ran a massive campaign for president in 2016. At some point if you break it down to anyone that has ever contributed to a campaign, donated to their charity, paid a speakers fee, worked in some capacity with one of them in government etc. you are talking about a metric ****-ton of people. Especially when it comes to someone who is an ambassador.

And here is an even better question. Why do you find it so curious that an ambassador that a long time ago at one point worked with a charity that was working on the aids epidemic also later on gave information to the FBI that led to a guilty plea by someone, simply because if you squint your eyes you can kinda sorta see a connection to Clinton, but Trump admin/campaign has lied about Russia at every turn, even pleading guilty to lying to the FBI about those contacts, had meetings with them that they then lied about, asked for secret back channels to Russia, hired numerous people that had sketchy dealings with Russia etc. etc. but none of that seems even the least bit sketchy to you? How do you possibly find one sketchy but not the other?
 
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roughdraft274 said:
Ok, I'll bite.

How are the Clintons involved with Carter Page and how did they make Trump pick a suspected Russian spy to be a foreign-policy adviser?

How did the Clintons force Trump to pick Manafort to run his campaign for free while he was in debt up to his eyeballs in dirty Russian debt?

How did the Clintons force DT jr to take a meeting with Russian officials to dish out dirt on the Clinton campaign?

How did they force Trump to lie about the meeting and say it was about Russian adoptions?

How did they force GP to go on a drunken rant about Russia having dirt on Hillary?

This is the problem Rev. You are just asking silly questions and pretending like it's actually a problem that the Clintons show up every now and then on an investigation that is wide reaching and has already indicted numerous people and has shown us that time and time again the Trump administration/campaign has lied at every turn about their communications. They can't force them to make up lies. The clintons have been in the white house, she has been secretary of state, a congress woman, ran a widely respected global charity and ran a massive campaign for president in 2016. At some point if you break it down to anyone that has ever contributed to a campaign, donated to their charity, paid a speakers fee, worked in some capacity with one of them in government etc. you are talking about a metric ****-ton of people. Especially when it comes to someone who is an ambassador.

And here is an even better question. Why do you find it so curious that an ambassador that a long time ago at one point worked with a charity that was working on the aids epidemic also later on gave information to the FBI that led to a guilty plea by someone, simply because if you squint your eyes you can kinda sorta see a connection to Clinton, but Trump admin/campaign has lied about Russia at every turn, even pleading guilty to lying to the FBI about those contacts, had meetings with them that they then lied about, asked for secret back channels to Russia, hired numerous people that had sketchy dealings with Russia etc. etc. but none of that seems even the least bit sketchy to you? How do you possibly find one sketchy but not the other?
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Show up every now and then?


The Dossier used by the fbi was created by the clinton campaign hiring a group who colluded with ACTUAL russians to create a fake dossier.


you minimize your criminal candidates culpability here.




So you have evidence of undernhanded **** by the clintons and you don't even ask why they seem to have thier tentacles in every aspect of the russian collusion myth?
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
soros is a scumbag. his motives are not for the benefit of this great nation.
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Yeah things like supporting human rights, democray, and fact checking really ****s with your right wing "Libertarian" thing huh? Cuz really only the rights you wanna exercise matter, not anyone else's. Another flaw in most right wing "Libertarians" and why your party never gets any traction.
 
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Khayembii Communique said:
So you're not insinuating that the individual did anything wrong, and you have no argument to make that even suggests wrongdoing by him.
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I am asking if you find it odd that the clinton tentacles are all over this russian collusion myth.
 
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markjs said:
Yeah things like supporting human rights, democray, and fact checking really ****s with your right wing "Libertarian" thing huh? Cuz really only the rights you wanna exercise matter, not anyone else's. Another flaw in most right wing "Libertarians" and why your party never gets any traction.
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What a stupid post. I don't have a retort to this nonsense.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
How are you a libertarian?
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This is a nice distraction, but I'm only going to do this once.

you are simply a typical leftist who want to live off us cool guys belief in liberty.
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"Cool guys?" Reverend, what's coming across your internet connection right now, is ... not ... cool.

Are you for or against me owning an ar15 with a 30 round magazine?
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The former, 'yes', the latter, 'no'.

are you for progressive taxation?
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No.
Are you for universal healthcare?
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Yes.
Are you for drug legalization?
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Yes.

Are you for lowering taxes, are you for shrinking government?
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With a balanced budget, I'm fine with taxes eventually being lowered responsibly.

Why is your libertarianism hyphenated? What's "left" about it?
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Because unlike a lot of wingers, I don't pretend I'm all about the philosophy of libertarianism, nor do I hide my political lean via the label of 'libertarian' to avoid owning my true beliefs -- that would be you.

Lets start there. this wont take long.
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No, it didn't take long for you to make a fool out of yourself. Is this a hobby for you or something?

I did not nor would I vote for trump, He's a populist and a statist. Things I do not support. At the same time, that will not preclude me from pointing out things that are far to coincidental to be an accident.
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Who do you really think you're fooling with this? You've defended Trump on almost every issue, and you've come running to his defense in every WH scandal. It's pretty obvious to anybody paying attention that given the pattern, you're a Trump supporter. That's fine, but own-up to it, and don't hide behind some fake contrarianism.
 
Re: Australian diplomat whose tip prompted FBI’s Russia-probe has tie to Clintons

ReverendHellh0und said:
Show up every now and then?


The Dossier used by the fbi was created by the clinton campaign hiring a group who colluded with ACTUAL russians to create a fake dossier.


you minimize your criminal candidates culpability here.




So you have evidence of undernhanded **** by the clintons and you don't even ask why they seem to have thier tentacles in every aspect of the russian collusion myth?
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Where is the "made up" evidence? The ONLY argument your side has is "fruit of the poison tree" and that argument is quite weak. So now, what has been "made up" to take down "the legitimate president" that you are pretending not to support?
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
I am asking if you find it odd that the clinton tentacles are all over this russian collusion myth.
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Okay so 10 years ago he granted money to the Clinton Foundation earmarked to fight AIDS, and that this connection is suspect, but not because he did anything wrong as you're not insinuating any wrongdoing or suspect action by him. It's his mere one-time connection to the Clintons that you have a problem with, though you don't think he was involved in any kind of conspiracy.

That makes absolutely no sense, Rev. Either you find it "odd" because you think there was wrongdoing, or you don't. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to find it "odd".
 
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