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Shooting survivor's father admits email changes in CNN spat

This really doesn't matter.

It's just more of the same old trash that is used to muddy and downright pervert the gun issue into such a mess that we simply kick the can down the road until the next clinically-diagnosed, mentally-disturbed person butchers 15 or so more.

- We can't really deal with the mentally-ill issue because "they have rights."
- We can't really deal with the bump stock issue because "it's just an object."
- We can't deal with the notion of a "silencer" because "what really is a silencer but a dampener."
- We can't deal with assault rifles because "what really is the definition of assault."

It's all bull **** and used to bog the discussion down so that we can push the gun company/NRA anarchy agenda. Oh, but the NRA gives classes on safety! In the end, when the anti-gun crowd has grown in political power and have become entirely fed up, we "responsible" gun owners will choose to blame the Left instead of our own enthused apathy and refusal to get out ahead of this steam rolling train.

I'll state it again and again and again..."self-fulfilling prophesy." By really doing nothing and obtusely "defending" against the largely imagined liberal army that is coming for our guns, we are actually creating that army. Congratulations fools.
 
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I don't like him either, but nice try at projection.

I've got dozens of actual victims of gun violence, you've just got a bunch sociopaths like Loesch that can't keep their lies straight.

That's why not one single member of the NRA has ever committed a mass shooting, right?
 
Drudge and Trump should apologize too, but they won't.

For what exactly? Maybe you should apologize to Trump for your last year long hyperbole rampage. You and a couple other basically lost it after the election. Maybe you could stand before the nation and apologize. But you won't.
 
This really doesn't matter.

It's just more of the same old trash that is used to muddy and downright pervert the gun issue into such a mess that we simply kick the can down the road until the next clinically-diagnosed, mentally-disturbed person butchers 15 or so more.

- We can't really deal with the mentally-ill issue because "they have rights."
- We can't really deal with the bump stock issue because "it's just an object."
- We can't deal with the notion of a "silencer" because "what really is a silencer but a dampener."
- We can't deal with assault rifles because "what really is the definition of assault."

It's all bull **** and used to bog the discussion down so that we can push the gun company/NRA anarchy agenda. And in the end, when the anti-gun crowd has grown in political power and have become entirely fed up, we "responsible" gun owners will choose to blame the Left instead of our own enthused apathy.

I'll state it again and again and again..."self-fulfilling prophesy."
I keep telling people, if they want to see a civil war, then try to confiscate guns. The left really needs to pick its battles, and ask if it's really worth it.
 
That's why not one single member of the NRA has ever committed a mass shooting, right?
Right, the NRA just makes sure those people have guns and all the illegal modification to go with them.
 
So you like Haab's lies because they lied to the nation.

That’s ****ing hilarious. You know I didn’t say that. But you were so caught up in believing the narrative that you can’t handle the fact that someone is pointing out that this kind of thing happens all the time.

It must be so hard to be a victim all the time. “Someone lied to my favorite news organization that lies to me all the time.”

The real answer to your question is me and Dad owls do not give a hoot
 
That's why not one single member of the NRA has ever committed a mass shooting, right?

Wow... In less than two minutes just now I have read you deflecting and defending lies from Loesch, Hobbs and Hope Hicks.
 
I keep telling people, if they want to see a civil war, then try to confiscate guns. The left really needs to pick its battles, and ask if it's really worth it.
Nobody is confiscating guns, stop fear mongering.
 
It's not up to me to quantify that.
Yea it is, you said they "deceived the nation". The nation has to actually be deceived for that to be true. So quantify it for me. Who's opinion was actually changed as a result of what they thought, was mishandling by CNN?
 
Oh, you mean like Fox News, Breitbart, Alex Jones?

Sort of like them?

Care to stay on topic? Or is deflection way too important for you right now?

Yes. What makes you think that I’m saying they are immune? Because you don’t like the fact that I’m pointing out that your particular brand of Kool-Aid does the same thing as the other brands of Kool-Aid? I swear some people are so wrapped up in partisan stupidity that they can’t even fashion a good argument.

Poor CNN such bad victims caught up in a lie ( was it an omission).
 
For what exactly? Maybe you should apologize to Trump for your last year long hyperbole rampage. You and a couple other basically lost it after the election. Maybe you could stand before the nation and apologize. But you won't.
Are you STILL crowing about the election like a football fan? You're the one still obsessing about that, not us.
 
Wow... In less than two minutes just now I have read you deflecting and defending lies from Loesch, Hobbs and Hope Hicks.

What lies did I defend, precisely? and how? please quote.
 
Are you STILL crowing about the election like a football fan? You're the one still obsessing about that, not us.

Just because you say it, doesn't make it so.
 
Just because you say it, doesn't make it so.
People can just read your posts where you reference Trump's victory over and over again, and see it for themselves.
 
I keep telling people, if they want to see a civil war, then try to confiscate guns. The left really needs to pick its battles, and ask if it's really worth it.

Damn, did you even read my post before replying?

- I would say that a ban on automatic weapons was picking a battle.
- I would say that demanding background checks at gun shows was picking a battle.
- I would say that a bump stock is picking a battle.

But what has been the rights response every time? "NOT MY GUNS!" This obnoxious default of pretending that confiscation has ever been a part of the official conversation is exactly why one day you will see extremes.
 
What lies did I defend, precisely? and how? please quote.

Well sure...

Here's you playing down Hobb's lie as a "well everyone lies" deflection.

I'm saying people are going to lie no matter what.

Here's you fabricating as if you know the exact context of Hope Hicks' lies to play it down...

"****, I really don't feel like going to work today" "Hey boss? Yea, I'm sick today *cough cough*."

And here's you deflecting away from Loesch's lie by telling people to look at someone else.

You're just pissed off all you have is a lying sheriff.

It's like you are boning up your resume to apply for White House Press Secretary or something.
 
Damn, did you even read my post before replying?

- I would say that a ban on automatic weapons was picking a battle.
- I would say that demanding background checks at gun shows was picking a battle.
- I would say that a bump stock is picking a battle.

But what has been the rights response every time? "NOT MY GUNS!" This obnoxious default of pretending that confiscation has ever been a part of the official conversation is exactly why one day you will see extremes.

Automatic weapons were banned by FOPA in 1986. Background checks are already done by NICS, and most trouble is caused by government/state officials not updating accurately. The NRA has already approved regulating bump stocks and all devices to make semi-autos function like fully automatics. What more do you want?
 
What lies did I defend, precisely? and how? please quote.

You're defending Haab's lie by watering it down with the "everybody's doing it" argument. Except everybody didn't lie. Just Haab.
 
For what exactly? Maybe you should apologize to Trump for your last year long hyperbole rampage. You and a couple other basically lost it after the election. Maybe you could stand before the nation and apologize. But you won't.

Drudge and Trump both spread these lies.
 
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