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Supreme Court snubs Trump, keeps DACA immigration program in place for now

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...daca-immigration-program-place-now/371730002/

"The action represents*a temporary victory for*the young adults brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents or guardians under*the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program established by President Barack Obama in 2012. And it represents a major setback for the Trump administration, which vowed*to continue the legal battle in the lower courts."

So the judicial system swats down another manufactured crisis. The March 5, deadline was always arbitrary, but Congress still needs to work expeditiously to resolve an issue that most Americans want solved and on which most of them agree.
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...daca-immigration-program-place-now/371730002/

"The action represents*a temporary victory for*the young adults brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents or guardians under*the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program established by President Barack Obama in 2012. And it represents a major setback for the Trump administration, which vowed*to continue the legal battle in the lower courts."

So the judicial system swats down another manufactured crisis. The March 5, deadline was always arbitrary, but Congress still needs to work expeditiously to resolve an issue that most Americans want solved and on which most of them agree.

Still I scratch my head wondering why illegal aliens are so much more important to left wingers than their fellow American citizens.

This decision is not anything like a final decision on the matter. I have faith that the court will uphold the law. Otherwise, what is the point of having a country?
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...daca-immigration-program-place-now/371730002/

"The action represents*a temporary victory for*the young adults brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents or guardians under*the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program established by President Barack Obama in 2012. And it represents a major setback for the Trump administration, which vowed*to continue the legal battle in the lower courts."

So the judicial system swats down another manufactured crisis. The March 5, deadline was always arbitrary, but Congress still needs to work expeditiously to resolve an issue that most Americans want solved and on which most of them agree.

Doing nothing is the SCOTUS preferred course of action.
 
Still I scratch my head wondering why illegal aliens are so much more important to left wingers than their fellow American citizens.

This decision is not anything like a final decision on the matter. I have faith that the court will uphold the law. Otherwise, what is the point of having a country?

I scratch my head wondering why someone would conclude that left-wingers think illegal aliens are more important than any other groups, US citizens included, simply because of differences of opinions on this issue.
 
YES Victory! Now, I would encourage all dreamers and any of their family members that may be here illegally to speed down to the local ICE department and get signed up!!! Nothing bad will happen, I promise.
 
Still I scratch my head wondering why illegal aliens are so much more important to left wingers than their fellow American citizens.

This decision is not anything like a final decision on the matter. I have faith that the court will uphold the law. Otherwise, what is the point of having a country?

So one of the most Conservative courts in history is now left wing? Mkay. LOL.
 
Still I scratch my head wondering why illegal aliens are so much more important to left wingers than their fellow American citizens.

This decision is not anything like a final decision on the matter. I have faith that the court will uphold the law. Otherwise, what is the point of having a country?

Left wingers don't actually have that opinion.

I scratch my head as to why someone would try and pass that off as somehow, magically, based in reality.
 
I find this action by the SCOTUS concerning, to allow a lower courts ruling to be upheld based on something that is clearly unconstitutional is just beyond me. DACA was a policy that was enacted by Obama, not congress. Congress has the responsibility to enact and to change immigration laws, not the POTUS. The POTUS being the head of the Executive Branch has the responsibility to enforce the laws of this country and has taken an oath to enforce the laws of this country.

So who's the blame for this? Who's the blame for not enforcing the laws within this counrty, and since when do we not enforce laws based on an economical reason. We are a nation of laws or we are not, can a nation that professes to honor the rule of law reward those who break it? Can a nation that rewards the breaking of a law hope or expect its immigrants to assimilate into a law-abiding a society when, through that very process, it demonstrates its disregard, if not contempt for the law?

This really makes me wonder just were we are headed as a nation.
 
Still I scratch my head wondering why illegal aliens are so much more important to left wingers than their fellow American citizens.

This decision is not anything like a final decision on the matter. I have faith that the court will uphold the law. Otherwise, what is the point of having a country?

The rule of law IS important to us. The fact that you want to undermine it is a problem for me. Local governments should not be expending resources to do the fed's job. That's why we have ICE in the first place.
 
Still I scratch my head wondering why illegal aliens are so much more important to left wingers than their fellow American citizens.

This decision is not anything like a final decision on the matter. I have faith that the court will uphold the law. Otherwise, what is the point of having a country?

I don't know what gives you the impression that undocumented immigrants matter more to "left wingers" than US citizens, but I soundly reject that assertion. It certainly doesn't apply to me, even as a liberal.

The SCOTUS declined to hear the case. That sends a pretty loud and clear message.
 
Left wingers don't actually have that opinion.

I scratch my head as to why someone would try and pass that off as somehow, magically, based in reality.

Oh but that's what they have to ell themselves, that we all hate America. It's completely ridiculous.
 
Doing nothing is the SCOTUS preferred course of action.

Not only does the court hear lots of cases and sometimes issue transformational rulings, but to decline a case is not doing nothing. It's affirming the decision of the lower court.
 
I find this action by the SCOTUS concerning, to allow a lower courts ruling to be upheld based on something that is clearly unconstitutional is just beyond me. DACA was a policy that was enacted by Obama, not congress. Congress has the responsibility to enact and to change immigration laws, not the POTUS. The POTUS being the head of the Executive Branch has the responsibility to enforce the laws of this country and has taken an oath to enforce the laws of this country.

So who's the blame for this? Who's the blame for not enforcing the laws within this counrty, and since when do we not enforce laws based on an economical reason. We are a nation of laws or we are not, can a nation that professes to honor the rule of law reward those who break it? Can a nation that rewards the breaking of a law hope or expect its immigrants to assimilate into a law-abiding a society when, through that very process, it demonstrates its disregard, if not contempt for the law?

This really makes me wonder just were we are headed as a nation.

The Supreme Court didn't uphold the lower court ruling. There hasn't even been a lower court ruling.

The lower court issued an injunction that requires the government to continue to take DACA applications while it is deciding if revoking DACA by executive action was legal. This kind of makes sense, because if it isn't legal then deporting DACA applicants would be problematic.

It would have been highly unusual for SCOTUS to hear a case before the lower court ruled on it.
 
Not only does the court hear lots of cases and sometimes issue transformational rulings, but to decline a case is not doing nothing. It's affirming the decision of the lower court.

Nope, it is simply the SCOTUS letting it stand "without prejudice" meaning that it can be appealed again.
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...daca-immigration-program-place-now/371730002/

"The action represents*a temporary victory for*the young adults brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents or guardians under*the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program established by President Barack Obama in 2012. And it represents a major setback for the Trump administration, which vowed*to continue the legal battle in the lower courts."

So the judicial system swats down another manufactured crisis. The March 5, deadline was always arbitrary, but Congress still needs to work expeditiously to resolve an issue that most Americans want solved and on which most of them agree.

I represents nothing.

The court is simply forcing it to go through the court system like it normally does.
The court does not see a need for an immediate review ( which is what the WH wanted)

This is standard procedure for the court.
 
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I find this action by the SCOTUS concerning, to allow a lower courts ruling to be upheld based on something that is clearly unconstitutional is just beyond me. DACA was a policy that was enacted by Obama, not congress. Congress has the responsibility to enact and to change immigration laws, not the POTUS. The POTUS being the head of the Executive Branch has the responsibility to enforce the laws of this country and has taken an oath to enforce the laws of this country.

So who's the blame for this? Who's the blame for not enforcing the laws within this counrty, and since when do we not enforce laws based on an economical reason. We are a nation of laws or we are not, can a nation that professes to honor the rule of law reward those who break it? Can a nation that rewards the breaking of a law hope or expect its immigrants to assimilate into a law-abiding a society when, through that very process, it demonstrates its disregard, if not contempt for the law?

This really makes me wonder just were we are headed as a nation.

Unless there is an immediate cause for them to take action the SCOTUS leaves it up to the process.
Meanings federal judge > appeals court > full appeals court > SCOTUS.
 
I find this action by the SCOTUS concerning, to allow a lower courts ruling to be upheld based on something that is clearly unconstitutional is just beyond me. DACA was a policy that was enacted by Obama, not congress. Congress has the responsibility to enact and to change immigration laws, not the POTUS. The POTUS being the head of the Executive Branch has the responsibility to enforce the laws of this country and has taken an oath to enforce the laws of this country.

So who's the blame for this? Who's the blame for not enforcing the laws within this counrty, and since when do we not enforce laws based on an economical reason. We are a nation of laws or we are not, can a nation that professes to honor the rule of law reward those who break it? Can a nation that rewards the breaking of a law hope or expect its immigrants to assimilate into a law-abiding a society when, through that very process, it demonstrates its disregard, if not contempt for the law?

This really makes me wonder just were we are headed as a nation.
And beyond that how is that a policy that was enacted by a sitting president can not be undone by a predecessor? When did obama become king?

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I find this action by the SCOTUS concerning, to allow a lower courts ruling to be upheld based on something that is clearly unconstitutional is just beyond me. DACA was a policy that was enacted by Obama, not congress. Congress has the responsibility to enact and to change immigration laws, not the POTUS. The POTUS being the head of the Executive Branch has the responsibility to enforce the laws of this country and has taken an oath to enforce the laws of this country.

So who's the blame for this? Who's the blame for not enforcing the laws within this counrty, and since when do we not enforce laws based on an economical reason. We are a nation of laws or we are not, can a nation that professes to honor the rule of law reward those who break it? Can a nation that rewards the breaking of a law hope or expect its immigrants to assimilate into a law-abiding a society when, through that very process, it demonstrates its disregard, if not contempt for the law?

This really makes me wonder just were we are headed as a nation.

"Clearly unconstitutional" is a high standard that probably does not apply to this case. Either way, SCOTUS tends to delay action on concurrently contentious issues. The justices might actually agree with the administration, but I think in this case, they are sending a clear message to the executive and legislative branches to figure it out. They also effectively suspended the president's artificial March 5, deadline, so I sense that the human impacts of this policy matter.
 
Nope, it is simply the SCOTUS letting it stand "without prejudice" meaning that it can be appealed again.

That's true. What I meant is that the ruling effectively suspends the administration's termination of DACA.
 
I represents nothing.

The court is simply forcing it to go through the court system like it normally does.
The court does not see a need for an immediate review ( which is what the WH wanted)

This is standard procedure for the court.

Meanwhile, it prevents the government from deporting DREAMers seven days from now.
 
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