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Trump directs Pentagon to schedule military parade for Veterans Day

Waddy said:
I'll bet you can see it from your cell.
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No charges against me alleged, pending or otherwise.

I have been in far too many parades both civilian and military.
I would not pay any attention even if I was in a cell with a view.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I always hated parades. Lots of standing around. People passing out. Sore back. Sweat running down my back. The best words one can hear for a parade is "pass and review". I actually think he is tyring to honor our military but nobody actually knows how much it sucks until they stand in formation for hours in whatever kind of weather.
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100 thumbs up for that!!!
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
My bet is they get the day after the parade off, or maybe two..

Trump is not so ignorant to not see this. Do you actually think he is?

Geesh...
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Is that a trick question? Of course!!
 



Hurrah For the Troops But It Does Look Isolated and Strange in Washington DC

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Marine Infantry troops march on the Memorial Bridge across the Potomac River towards the Pentagon during National Victory Celebration Parade in 1991. (Doug Mills/ASSOCIATED PRESS)



Here's what a couple of retired brass think about Trump's Parade and why....


Retired officers pan Trump's parade: 'This is all about his ego'


"I don't like it ... not at all," retired Rear Adm. John Kirby, former spokesman for the Pentagon and State Department, said on CNN. "This is not about showcasing our military. This is about the president showing off. This is all about his ego. That's just an inappropriate use of military time, talent, and resources."

He said the cost, likely in the millions of dollars to transport equipment and troops to Washington, would be better spent on operations, training and "taking care of our people." He also brought up the optics, which critics were quick to point out evoked marches in Moscow and Pyongyang. "This is beneath us as a nation," Kirby said.

Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling, who commanded U.S. Army Europe, and was still in Iraq in 1991 when a parade was held to herald the end of the Persian Gulf War. He said he's heard nothing but negative reviews from the active-duty and veteran community on the idea.

"I did an informal Twitter survey last night, very unscientific. But I will tell you, it was about 100 to 0 in terms of people, soldiers, former military saying they don't want any part of these kind of parades. The reason for it is ... there are resource issues, implications for logistics. It would be extremely expensive. It would tear up the streets," he said.

"You could get past all of those arguments and just say one thing: It's not who we are as a military. The United States has a different military culture. We do not portray ourselves walking down the streets. Instead, we do the parades on main street in the middle of Idaho during the Fourth of July with flags taped to kids' handlebars. That's the kind of parades we have. We don't have to portray military might because people know how strong we are, the world knows what we are. It's just not part of our culture."

Kirby said he expects Pentagon planners are now trying to figure out ways to walk the plans back.

"I think the military leaders in the Pentagon are probably trying to think how they can scope this in such a way that maybe it isn't such a waste of resources, doesn't get to that point the Gen. Hertling brought up about being a little too grandiose for our boots."

Retired officers pan Trump's parade: 'This is all about his ego'






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President Donald Trump at the Bastille Day military parade in Paris on July 14, 2017


Notice how military personnel in the parade show both hands at all times. Even holding a light weapon the troop shows both hands at all times, one hand off the weapon. It's done in the sharpest military manner of course. Vehicle operators show both hands unless both hands must be out of view and only to operate the vehicle. All troops and weapons of every kind are inspected before the parade begins -- each time and always. Troops are in place hours before parade stepoff and the inspections are a massive project. And, as one would expect, the troops don't appreciate being inspected in these ways and on these occasions. Inspecting authorities do not treat it as just another inspection either.

Donald Trump is too big for his britches and his britches are already huge.
 
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Blkdirt Farmer said:
My bet is they get the day after the parade off, or maybe two..

Trump is not so ignorant to not see this. Do you actually think he is?

Geesh...
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Do you mean aside from the holiday routine (96) that troops already get for Veterans Day (November 11)? November 10 is also the Marine Corps Birthday and that weekend is normally full of Marine Corps Balls.

Troops will not be happy that this annual routine gets to be disrupted this year because Trump wants them to march in a parade to "honor" themselves. It's an insult.
 
Casper said:
I am just surprised he is willing to have that many Patriots with guns that close to him............
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If he is not in prison by then, I imagine that he will try to borrow the pope mobile...
 
danarhea said:
Congratulations, Donald. We are now joining the ranks of other nations who have military parades..... Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran.
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Donald's penis on full display.
 
It'll have the biggest rockets.
 
danarhea said:
And THIS is America. Jesus......
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I'm just pointing out that some very friendly, non-dictatorial nations have military parades and the rest of the world does not view them as jingoists because of that.

Of course, I love parades, especially military parades with flyovers. I love honoring the troops that keep this nation free. And yes, I know the rhetoric -- we can honor them by passing VA bills too. And, I know we're asking them to give up a holiday. But, what about offering those who participate an extra week of vacation? And, why does having a parade have to mean we can't treat our veterans well in other ways? The truth is -- we can do all of those things.

While I preferred the parade to be on Independence Day, as a visual reminder of those who freed this nation, Veteran's Day is a good choice as well.

Get out and enjoy it instead of being such a grumpy guy.
 
HowardBThiname said:
I'm just pointing out that some very friendly, non-dictatorial nations have military parades and the rest of the world does not view them as jingoists because of that.

Of course, I love parades, especially military parades with flyovers. I love honoring the troops that keep this nation free. And yes, I know the rhetoric -- we can honor them by passing VA bills too. And, I know we're asking them to give up a holiday. But, what about offering those who participate an extra week of vacation? And, why does having a parade have to mean we can't treat our veterans well in other ways? The truth is -- we can do all of those things.

While I preferred the parade to be on Independence Day, as a visual reminder of those who freed this nation, Veteran's Day is a good choice as well.

Get out and enjoy it instead of being such a grumpy guy.
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Let me put it this way. The country with the biggest dick doesn't need to advertise. LOL.
 
MovingPictures said:
I guess President Dumbass thinks this will help the GOP in the midterm election. It's pretty obvious that's what this is about.

Too bad the parade will be five days after the election.
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It's going to double as the "Democrats take back the Senate Celebration".
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Having not served, I respect what your saying.

How about Pride? does that help with the extra efforts? Or is there any pride in the military anymore?
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I served, albeit 30 years ago, and if attitudes are still the same I'd say that participating in a parade is not pride inspiring. It's a pain in the ass. Exceptions would be something like an end to WW2, but a parade 'just because' wouldn't fit the bill.
 
danarhea said:
Let me put it this way. The country with the biggest dick doesn't need to advertise. LOL.
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I've never thought of military parades as a form of advertising.

I rather think of them a patriotic and a show of support for our military, including those who paid the ultimate price, those who came home forever changed, and those who came back proud and in one piece. And, for those who will, in the future, make the decision to serve this nation as well.
 
radcen said:
I served, albeit 30 years ago, and if attitudes are still the same I'd say that participating in a parade is not pride inspiring. It's a pain in the ass. Exceptions would be something like an end to WW2, but a parade 'just because' wouldn't fit the bill.
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When you say a parade is a "pain in the ass," do you mean that serving in the military in other ways is a walk in the park? I don't really understand that comment, although I've heard it more than once. If those who took part in the parade were given a week of off-time, would that make it less of a pain in the ass?
 
JMR said:
But Trump really wants it on July 4th.
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I think that would be a great time to have it, too, but I guess the Pentagon suggested Veteran's Day, which is also a good time. Both are celebrations of our nation and those who have served.
 
leekohler2 said:
I was just thinking the same thing. I don't know anybody in the military who thinks this is a good idea. I'm sure there are some though.
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I am a military veteran. While on active duty, I worked every Veterans Day. It's not exactly a paid holiday even in civilian life. And do you think the entire US military will be marching in that parade?
 
danarhea said:
Congratulations, Donald. We are now joining the ranks of other nations who have military parades..... Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran.
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It's amusing that those of you on the left are unaware that the parade Trump has planned would certainly not be the first. George H.W. Bush had one after the 1991 Gulf War. Both Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy had parades. FDR had a military parade. The left sees military parades today as politically incorrect, however only the ignorant think military parades are a new concept in 2018.
 
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