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Florida massacre survivors chant 'vote them out' as other students walk out in solidarity

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Florida massacre survivors chant 'vote them out' as other students walk out in solidarity


By Eliott C. McLaughlin, Holly Yan and Faith Karim0i
Wed February 21, 2018

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High school students in Iowa walking out of their school in protest today over lax gun laws

Tallahassee, Florida (CNN)Just one week after surviving a massacre that killed 17 people, grieving students confronted Florida lawmakers Wednesday to demand a ban on assault weapons. As they took up their fight in Tallahassee, students from Palm Beach to Washington walked out in solidarity -- disgusted by yet another school massacre with no change in gun laws. -- Protesters chanted "vote them out" at a #NeverAgain rally outside the Capitol building Wednesday. Speakers, including massacre survivor Florence Yared, demanded a ban to assault weapons. "I'm not trying to take away your right" to bear arms, she said. "But we cannot protect our guns before we protect our children." Across South Florida, thousands of students walked out in solidarity with the survivors from the school in Parkland. Some walked 10 miles to get to Stoneman Douglas High School. Hundreds of students in the Washington DC area also walked out in support of the Florida students. Kai Koerber is one of about 100 students from Parkland's Stoneman Douglas High School meeting with several lawmakers Wednesday. "The legislation needs to change, because we've fallen victim to lazy legislation for far too long," he said.

Spencer Blum, junior at the same school, said he won't rest until the laws are changed or until the lawmakers get booted. "Our goal here is to get a complete ban on assault weapons in the state of Florida, and we will not accept anything else," he said. As students rallied outside the Capitol building, thousands of teens from across the state walked out in support of Stoneman Douglas students. Some walked 10 miles, arm-in-arm, to get to Stoneman Douglas. But the grief-stricken teens suffered a blow Tuesday, when state lawmakers voted 71-36 against a measure to consider a ban on semi-automatic weapons. "It seemed almost heartless how they immediately pushed the button to say no." Almost all 71 lawmakers who voted against considering an assault rifle ban have an "A" rating from the National Rifle Association. Senior Chris Grady, 19, gave the politicians an ultimatum: "If you're not with us, you're against us, and you're against saving the lives of innocent children. And we are going to be voting you out," he said.

The Stoneman High School students who met with Florida legislators this morning are now speaking to the national media. They are disappointed in their legislators and thoroughly disgusted about yesterdays overwhelming "no" vote in Tallahassee to not even consider a statewide ban on semi-automatic weapons. They swore to politically align and campaign en-mass against any Florida lawmaker that accepts NRA money.

The question is, will this movement peter-out, or gather nationwide momentum? If the latter, the November midterms could be a watershed event in American history.
 
Florida massacre survivors chant 'vote them out' as other students walk out in solidarity




The Stoneman High School students who met with Florida legislators this morning are now speaking to the national media. They are disappointed in their legislators and thoroughly disgusted about yesterdays overwhelming "no" vote in Tallahassee to not even consider a statewide ban on semi-automatic weapons. They swore to politically align and campaign en-mass against any Florida lawmaker that accepts NRA money.

The question is, will this movement peter-out, or gather nationwide momentum? If the latter, the November midterms could be a watershed event in American history.

Oh no, this is not going away any time soon. Kids have a lot of energy and I have a feeling this is just getting started. If I were a GOP politician, I'd be extremely worried right now.
 
Are we sure these aren't just hundreds of actors paid by Soros?
 
Florida massacre survivors chant 'vote them out' as other students walk out in solidarity




The Stoneman High School students who met with Florida legislators this morning are now speaking to the national media. They are disappointed in their legislators and thoroughly disgusted about yesterdays overwhelming "no" vote in Tallahassee to not even consider a statewide ban on semi-automatic weapons. They swore to politically align and campaign en-mass against any Florida lawmaker that accepts NRA money.

The question is, will this movement peter-out, or gather nationwide momentum? If the latter, the November midterms could be a watershed event in American history.

It will never pass in FL.
People in Florida are very much pro-gun right state.


banning assault weapons will not solve this issue no matter how much they want to scream it will.
trying to ban semi-autos would run afoul of the constitution (since almost every gun out there is a semi-auto)

The only way for this to stop is to be pro-active and take preventive measures.
something the police failed to do in this instance even though they could have.

we do not punish 99% of the population for the actions of less than 1% of the population.
 
Are we sure these aren't just hundreds of actors paid by Soros?

Ya'know, the congressional aid that was pushing that (Russian) fake news yesterday got fired.
 
I wonder if they really believe banning AR-15's will end the school violence. imo, the violence will just take a different direction.

It is wrong our kids are being killed at school or anytime at any place. Seems I read somewhere that Cruz was different and a loner. Well what did his classmates do to try and be his friend? Gun violence is an issue. The underlying problem of why there is gun violence needs to be identified and corrected.

There are some politicians that I agree needs to be "voted out". Unfortunately, in many cases it is not the same ones the kids are thinking.
 
Ya'know, the congressional aid that was pushing that (Russian) fake news yesterday got fired.

And yet, we still can't get one right winger in this forum to condemn what he did. Not a single one.
 
Florida massacre survivors chant 'vote them out' as other students walk out in solidarity




The Stoneman High School students who met with Florida legislators this morning are now speaking to the national media. They are disappointed in their legislators and thoroughly disgusted about yesterdays overwhelming "no" vote in Tallahassee to not even consider a statewide ban on semi-automatic weapons. They swore to politically align and campaign en-mass against any Florida lawmaker that accepts NRA money.

The question is, will this movement peter-out, or gather nationwide momentum? If the latter, the November midterms could be a watershed event in American history.

This going to be around until at least November; I'm sure that is the immediate goal. The republicans are going to bend waaaay over or they're out. I think that a lot of them will be out anyway due to this Trump cabal and the harm that has been done to the country as a result, but this last mass shooting is the cherry on the cake.
 
Oh no, this is not going away any time soon. Kids have a lot of energy and I have a feeling this is just getting started. If I were a GOP politician, I'd be extremely worried right now.

I posted a few days after the 14FEB shooting @ Parkland, that with the kids speaking up, this time there was a different feel to the outrage. If they can keep energized, who knows. I'd love to be a fly on the wall @ the NRA this past week!
 
I wonder if they really believe banning AR-15's will end the school violence. imo, the violence will just take a different direction.

It is wrong our kids are being killed at school or anytime at any place. Seems I read somewhere that Cruz was different and a loner. Well what did his classmates do to try and be his friend? Gun violence is an issue. The underlying problem of why there is gun violence needs to be identified and corrected.

There are some politicians that I agree needs to be "voted out". Unfortunately, in many cases it is not the same ones the kids are thinking.

There has to be some sort of gun legislation as well. Such as, how in the hell was this kid allowed to buy a gun legally in the first place? He already had a history and was posting some really disturbing things on line. That should have stopped it right there.
 
I wonder if they really believe banning AR-15's will end the school violence. imo, the violence will just take a different direction.

It is wrong our kids are being killed at school or anytime at any place. Seems I read somewhere that Cruz was different and a loner. Well what did his classmates do to try and be his friend? Gun violence is an issue. The underlying problem of why there is gun violence needs to be identified and corrected.

There are some politicians that I agree needs to be "voted out". Unfortunately, in many cases it is not the same ones the kids are thinking.

It is an emotional response.

We demand that you ban guns but we are not trying to take away your rights to bear arms is 100% a contradiction.
but then again this is a high school kid we are talking about.

I agree it is but gun bans do not work (look at chicago and other places).

Cruz had a lot of mental and social issues. He was not a nice kid from all discriptions to the point they kicked him out of the public school for fighting and making threats.
that right there should have clued them in.

The police were constantly at his home as his adoptive parents were calling the cops because of his aggressive behavior.
 
I posted a few days after the 14FEB shooting @ Parkland, that with the kids speaking up, this time there was a different feel to the outrage. If they can keep energized, who knows. I'd love to be a fly on the wall @ the NRA this past week!

Notice the NRA hasn't said a damn thing? The better not. They better start listening.
 
There has to be some sort of gun legislation as well. Such as, how in the hell was this kid allowed to buy a gun legally in the first place? He already had a history and was posting some really disturbing things on line. That should have stopped it right there.

It was up to his psychologist to report it. If it doesn't get reported then nothing is done.

It is a state felony to post death threats and send them.
the police should have investigated and taken his crap the moment that was done.
they should have then filed a report and stuck it in the BG DB but they didn't.

they washed their hands and said that he was getting proper treatment.
 
It is an emotional response.

We demand that you ban guns but we are not trying to take away your rights to bear arms is 100% a contradiction.
but then again this is a high school kid we are talking about.

I agree it is but gun bans do not work (look at chicago and other places).

Cruz had a lot of mental and social issues. He was not a nice kid from all discriptions to the point they kicked him out of the public school for fighting and making threats.
that right there should have clued them in.

The police were constantly at his home as his adoptive parents were calling the cops because of his aggressive behavior.

Agreed, but this kid NEVER should have been allowed to keep guns in the first place, especially after all the clues he dropped.
 
It was up to his psychologist to report it. If it doesn't get reported then nothing is done.

It is a state felony to post death threats and send them.
the police should have investigated and taken his crap the moment that was done.
they should have then filed a report and stuck it in the BG DB but they didn't.

they washed their hands and said that he was getting proper treatment.

Then the people who ignored this need to be held accountable. The answer is not "this was unavoidable" or "there's nothing that can be done."
 
Notice the NRA hasn't said a damn thing? The better not. They better start listening.

the NRA has nothing to do with this and is nothing but a red herring argument.
the NRA upholds the 2nd amendment and the right of people to own guns.

THey are no more responsible for this than the gun maker that made it.
 
Then the people who ignored this need to be held accountable.

I agree the FBI and the local police should be held accountable will they? doubt it they protect their own.
 
And yet, we still can't get one right winger in this forum to condemn what he did. Not a single one.

"And the band played on" is the way the Temptations sang it. Their ship has been hit broadside and is taking in serious water. The smarter ones are jumping ship now, but the others are going to act like Emperor Hirohito did in 1945, forcing the Bomb to be dropped.
 
The kids are pawns of the anti-gun left extremist. Sad, but true.
They say the very same rhetoric and i heard it way before this.
These kid's grief is being manipulated by the radical left anti-gunners.
I am not the only one that sees it.
When people are in partial shock and immense grief, they can be easily manipulated....and they are.
This is just another immoral tactic.
 
There has to be some sort of gun legislation as well. Such as, how in the hell was this kid allowed to buy a gun legally in the first place? He already had a history and was posting some really disturbing things on line. That should have stopped it right there.

I don't disagree that laws can be improved.

Are you suggesting that part of the background check is to review a persons on line posting?

Some of the things I find fascinating in the US is :
voting age was changed to 18, Yet one still has to be 21 to purchase liquor
A person is considered an adult at 18 in the eyes of the law.

If a person is old enough to join the military and vote, shouldn't they be old enough to purchase a firearm?
 
This is not a grassroots movement. These kids should be insulted that their understandable grief is being used by opportunistic Democrats. Kudos to the Florida legislature for standing up the Democratic bullies. Banning guns is not the solution. We will not be intimidated by tears into giving up our constitutional rights.
 
The kids are pawns of the anti-gun left extremist. Sad, but true.
They say the very same rhetoric and i heard it way before this.
These kid's grief is being manipulated by the radical left anti-gunners.
I am not the only one that sees it.
When people are in partial shock and immense grief, they can be easily manipulated....and they are.
This is just another immoral tactic.

The person who is immoral is you. The kids are quite capable of speaking for themselves. Go ahead, ignore them. You certainly won't lift a finger to do anything to help them.

I can also call you a pawn of the right, your rhetoric is the very same as anything I've heard before. You write a lot and say nothing. You offer criticism, but never solutions.

So go right ahead and write these kids off. Seems like they've had enough of their peers being mowed down. At some point, maybe you will too.
 
CNN.com and CNN TV is hosting a nationally televised Town Hall meeting tonight - "Stand Up: The Students of Stoneman Douglas Demand Action" - featuring Parkland high school survivors.

9pm ET. The NRA has accepted an invitation to participate.
 
I don't disagree that laws can be improved.

Are you suggesting that part of the background check is to review a persons on line posting?

You're damn right I am. All the clues were right there. Hey, not even clues, but declarations of intent.
 
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