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Criminal referral backs up Nunes on dossier claims

Exactice said:
Yups thats dumb on me but that is also why I am here digging up facts to try to make a BETTER assessment LOL!
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Yes, that is your most endearing characteristic. Much respect for that.
As for Flynn I have not the slightest Idea thats in his head.... so I cant speak on it only speculate... But again.... If they wanted to fry him "lying to an FBI agent" is a slap on the wrist if it was that serious? A Secretary of State that was a First Lady, Senator and in the Political Realm for 40 years did not KNOW having a private server was not a good idea and NO charges.... Jeezus.....


As for handing over secrets... Well that is the worst case scenario... who knows if Flynn was truly a man of honor or deceit what he would have done under the situation. hes out... so Flynn kind means nothing to me now, that and he has gotten charged and plead guilty so it is what it is.

Flynn again... Good thing he was fired 3 weeks in.... its done... move on to the next one? LOL!
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We already KNOW that Flynn is not a man of honor.
 
sangha said:
Yes, that is your most endearing characteristic. Much respect for that.


We already KNOW that Flynn is not a man of honor.
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LOL thanks!! Would you believe I am a Racist and a Bigot..... because I have an opinion, LOL should see the name calling in other threads... Jeezus LOL

Well..... for me... being in the military... Its tough to say that the man has NO Honor...... Honestly... my opinion to make the Rank of Lieutenant General, you gotta have some qualities and Honor. If not those above you that appointed his rank failed tremendously...

Probably a good human being..... probably a good NSA director, Bad choices.... inexcusable choices and now he is NOT the NSA Director, not sure I would go so far to say man of No Honor in my opinion.

Lives were NOT lost in vain under his command or his tenure...

there are Other people that have served in other capacities that have DONE worse just not in the EYES of limited justice.
 
phattonez said:
So you have a guy with open political leanings whom you know lies to authorities. Are we really surprised that his dossier has been largely unsubstantiated?



And if the FBI goes out of line, we elect politicians to put a stop to it. Our government is above its enforcement agencies.
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THIS!!..... This is what is silly..... "Permanent House Intel Committee" isnt it their JOB to oversight people in power? This is Concerns. PERIOD.... if Clinton was President and Trump was on the other side....do you think the game would be played the same..... NO where NEAR...... So there needs to be oversight especially when it shows. BIAS....and more so political bias to "what" potentially interfere with our democratic elections.

I know I swore an Oath, " To defend our constitution against all enemy's foreign or DOMESTIC" This does seem like domestic terrorism from within our own government... Scary stuff...
 
Exactice said:
LOL thanks!! Would you believe I am a Racist and a Bigot..... because I have an opinion, LOL should see the name calling in other threads... Jeezus LOL

Well..... for me... being in the military... Its tough to say that the man has NO Honor...... Honestly... my opinion to make the Rank of Lieutenant General, you gotta have some qualities and Honor. If not those above you that appointed his rank failed tremendously...

Probably a good human being..... probably a good NSA director, Bad choices.... inexcusable choices and now he is NOT the NSA Director, not sure I would go so far to say man of No Honor in my opinion.

Lives were NOT lost in vain under his command or his tenure...

there are Other people that have served in other capacities that have DONE worse just not in the EYES of limited justice.
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Have you ever heard of The Peter Principle?

It was a business idea that was big in the 70s, I think. Basically, it asserted that people rise to the level of their incompetence. You get a job, and you excel at it so you get promoted. Your new job has greater responsibilities and bigger challenges. If you excel at that, you get promoted again. And on and on....UNTIL you get promoted into a job where the responsibilities and challenges are just too great for you.

IMO, this describes Flynn. As a battlefield commander, he sounds like a wizard. Effective at achieving the mission and inspiring to the troops who served under him. But then he was promoted into the pentagon, which is whole other type of battlefield. From all accounts, he was a disaster there.
This is purely opinion
 
Lerxst said:
His political lean is irrelevant unless it materially impacts the validity of the information he is passing along. Which to this point hasn't been proven. The FBI cut him loose for lying about his contacts with the media. Again, not material to the info he was passing along regarding Russia, only that he could no longer be trusted to follow the rules as it relates to being an informant working with federal authorities.



No, they are not in charge of those people. I'm not sure why you would make such a statement. Can a congressman determine policy for the FBI? No. Can a congressman levy disciplinary action on an FBI agent? No. Can a congressman hire an FBI agent? No. They are not in charge of the people at the FBI. The Director of the FBI is who is in charge of the people at the FBI, and he or she is appointed.
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His lean is incredibly relevant when you consider that he has direct links back to HRC campaign in gleaning some of his information through Sid "Viscous".

This whole thing is beginning to unravel, and it is truly entertaining....

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sangha said:
Have you ever heard of The Peter Principle?

It was a business idea that was big in the 70s, I think. Basically, it asserted that people rise to the level of their incompetence. You get a job, and you excel at it so you get promoted. Your new job has greater responsibilities and bigger challenges. If you excel at that, you get promoted again. And on and on....UNTIL you get promoted into a job where the responsibilities and challenges are just too great for you.

IMO, this describes Flynn. As a battlefield commander, he sounds like a wizard. Effective at achieving the mission and inspiring to the troops who served under him. But then he was promoted into the pentagon, which is whole other type of battlefield. From all accounts, he was a disaster there.
This is purely opinion
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That is a great analogy.... That makes sense and may hold true..... I will say.... I wonder if it was his "Private" company as to what cause him to go astray, I mean he was making a LOT of money from it.... Maybe it was the taste of Privatization and thinking he could still get away with things out side the checks and balances that we "SHOULD" have within our democratic system.

THIS of course highlights what his happening now with the Memo, this is a "HUGE" Check, be it..... criminal there is a LOT of sketchy.... deep state stuff that needs to be addressed. cleaned out or KICKED out...
 
j-mac said:
His lean is incredibly relevant when you consider that he has direct links back to HRC campaign in gleaning some of his information through Sid "Viscous".

This whole thing is beginning to unravel, and it is truly entertaining....

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No it is not. I know you want it to be, but it's not. What is relevant is the validity of the information he provided to the FBI. Just because he is pro-Hillary doesn't mean he can't pass on information to the FBI of a possible crime. Don't be ridiculous. Just because he wouldn't vote for Trump if he could doesn't make the info he provides as false.

Why is this so hard for you guys to grasp?
 
phattonez said:
So you have a guy with open political leanings whom you know lies to authorities. Are we really surprised that his dossier has been largely unsubstantiated?
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Political lean doesn't matter. You're starting to sound like you prefer a banana republic type of rule, where differing political views makes you a criminal. Very patriotic of you. "Oh you don't like the guy I voted for, clearly you can't be trusted!" Get out of here with that dumb ****. The only thing Steele is alleged to have done wrong is lie to the FBI about unauthorized contact with the media.

And if the FBI goes out of line, we elect politicians to put a stop to it. Our government is above its enforcement agencies.
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That doesn't mean politicians are "in charge" of anyone at the FBI. Politicians make laws. Agency heads make policy. The only thing congress does when it comes to the FBI is confirm or block the appointment of the Director. The FBI operates within the DOJ and reports to the Attorney General, and because they are part of intelligence community they also report to the Director of National Intelligence.

There is a reason that Congress doesn't have the authority to manage the FBI or dictates its procedures. It's so they can't use the agency as their personal attack dogs or hinder their investigative work. Politicians are notoriously dishonest and prone to get themselves involved in questionable situations. It's one of the staples of our social media diet.
 
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apdst said:
Those folks were disciplined because they were exemplary agents.
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You made the accusation, all I'm asking you to do is support it. If they were disciplined for misconduct related to the Russia investigation, please provide some reference. I'm interested in facts, not speculation. Surely this information is available to the general public since, based upon your accusation, you have examined it before. Educate me, please.
 
sangha said:
I know of nothing that suggests the FBI presented any evidence that was untrue or that any of the procedures for review were not adhered to.
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Neither does anybody else, but they sure as hell are already convinced the FBI did and they will certainly tell you about it.

Silly kids.
 
Fishking said:
What are you talking about? The massive increase in the surveillance state happened during Obama's time.
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what would you define as the "surveillance state"?
 
Lerxst said:
No it is not. I know you want it to be, but it's not. What is relevant is the validity of the information he provided to the FBI. Just because he is pro-Hillary doesn't mean he can't pass on information to the FBI of a possible crime. Don't be ridiculous. Just because he wouldn't vote for Trump if he could doesn't make the info he provides as false.

Why is this so hard for you guys to grasp?
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Want it to be true? Hardly...I wish we weren't living in a time where crap like this was not only considered, but carried out...We are watching progressives destroy America.

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j-mac said:
Want it to be true? Hardly...I wish we weren't living in a time where crap like this was not only considered, but carried out...We are watching progressives destroy America.

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No, we are watching the damage that can be caused when a minority vote (GOP) can elect a bad reality TV show host and malignant narcissist who can't get out of the way of his own ego long enough not to isolate us from our allies. You people, you, you and your blind allegiance to orange skinned idiot are responsible for this **** show that is playing out right now.
 
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