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Democrats flip deep-red Missouri state House seat, signal problems for GOP

cuban smokes said:
I cannot tell anyone whom I may vote for but I can guarantee one thing: I will NEVER again vote for another GOP candidate in any election, ever, period.

I can thank Donald Trump for that; thanks jackass ..............
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I cannot state that I would never vote for another GOP candidate but I will not while the white power movement is running rampant in their ranks.
 
tres borrachos said:
You actually nailed it (big words above). Andy is very much a Libertarian. So actually is his wife Laurie, who is a state legislator. Andy is very pro-gun (he and my husband are gun buddies). I wish he was more friendly to marijuana legalization. If he wasn't a long time acquaintance and friend, we wouldn't support him until he comes out and opposes Trump. My husband and I also like his opponent, Eddie Edwards, who is a great guy:

https://www.edwardsfornh.com/
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Libertarians that want big government for controlling drugs, people's sex lives, or any of that socio-conservative checklist stuff aren't really my kind of libertarians.

My most recent political compass results are in my profile if your curious. I have libertarian tendencies but I'm very anti-authoritarian.

Seems like someone I could possibly support, but that stuff gives me reservations.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
Libertarians that want big government for controlling drugs, people's sex lives, or any of that socio-conservative checklist stuff aren't really my kind of libertarians.

My most recent political compass results are in my profile if your curious. I have libertarian tendencies but I'm very anti-authoritarian.

Seems like someone I could possibly support, but that stuff gives me reservations.
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I slant Libertarian a lot, especially in the issues that you mentioned. I've got to ask Andy his honest opinion on those things.

By the way, the cat video was funny, wasn't it?
 
tres borrachos said:
You actually nailed it (big words above). Andy is very much a Libertarian. So actually is his wife Laurie, who is a state legislator. Andy is very pro-gun (he and my husband are gun buddies). I wish he was more friendly to marijuana legalization. If he wasn't a long time acquaintance and friend, we wouldn't support him until he comes out and opposes Trump. My husband and I also like his opponent, Eddie Edwards, who is a great guy:

https://www.edwardsfornh.com/
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If he won't oppose Trump then I hope he doesn't win. No offense if he is a good guy but we need people winning seats who will oppose Trump. No idea what will happen in that race, but I hope the democrats are making a push for it.
 
Kreton said:
I wasn't an Obama supporter so your Obama fake outrage is wasted. But it doesn't change the fact that the exact same things Trump is proclaiming were already happening.

You can pretend America is not divided if it helps you but it is incredibly divided. The left and right are fiercely more aggressive and hateful toward each other than any time recently.

You want to claim I ignore data. Point that out when you have a few minutes. Love to see it so I can stop ignoring it.
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Will do when I get a chance but good starting points would be the U6 rate at BLS.gov, revenue and expenses at bea.gov, and deficits and debt at treasury.org. results should matter but personality Trump a results in far too many

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Conservative said:
Right it took 8 years never to get back to pre recession levels with a growing population? That is very selective logic on your part as well as total ignorance of actual results and policies. Trump inherited the 1.5% 4th qtr 2016 and 1.2% 1st qtr. 2017 GDP which of course are your examples of success. Keep buying the rhetoric and keep ignoring the results.
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read and learn

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-to-the-obama-economy/?utm_term=.851b23f8c767

https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/obamas-economic-record-an-assessment
 
Kreton said:
If he won't oppose Trump then I hope he doesn't win. No offense if he is a good guy but we need people winning seats who will oppose Trump. No idea what will happen in that race, but I hope the democrats are making a push for it.
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Oppose Trump at what, pro growth, America first, job creation, social programs back to the states? What exactly has he DONE that hurts you, your family or this country?

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Kreton said:
If he won't oppose Trump then I hope he doesn't win. No offense if he is a good guy but we need people winning seats who will oppose Trump. No idea what will happen in that race, but I hope the democrats are making a push for it.
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No worries, he won't win anyway. He'll win the nomination (Sanborn, not Edwards) but he will lose to the Democrats. That's pretty much a given at this point.
 
Conservative said:
Will do when I get a chance but good starting points would be the U6 rate at BLS.gov, revenue and expenses at bea.gov, and deficits and debt at treasury.org. results should matter but personality Trump a results in far too many

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What, exactly, did Trump change the direction of in a positive way, and what exactly did he do to cause it.
 
Kreton said:
What, exactly, did Trump change the direction of in a positive way, and what exactly did he do to cause it.
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Reversed every Obama negative EO and told business they will not be punished for success. No class warfare rhetoric or policies

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Conservative said:
Oppose Trump at what, pro growth, America first, job creation, social programs back to the states? What exactly has he DONE that hurts you, your family or this country?

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Oppose Trump at almost everything that disgusting pos wants to do. When he and his supporters are all out of offices, then the Republican party might one day earn back the possibility of my votes. And not just my votes for them, but my votes against them. Every election of my adult life I look at each candidate and vote based on who I think the best candidate is. R, D, L, I never mattered much. I have voted R and L more than anything. However, now, I am voting 100% D on everything for no reason than oppose and put up as many road blocks to as much crap as Trump wants to do until he and all of his supporters are gone. And believe what you want to, but there are a lot of other people doing the same. The anti Trump movement is real and growing. Everything he has done will be repealed when the next president takes office. I don't care if the Democrats get a super super super majority. I'd rather deal with the fallout of that than the fallout if this asshole stays in.
 
Conservative said:
Reversed every Obama negative EO and told business they will not be punished for success. No class warfare rhetoric or policies

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Yea none of that was real. Just propaganda.

Although electing a white supremacist is certainly creating racial tensions and class warfare while his give helping widen the gap between the 99% and the 1%.
 
tres borrachos said:
No worries, he won't win anyway. He'll win the nomination (Sanborn, not Edwards) but he will lose to the Democrats. That's pretty much a given at this point.
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It is somewhat sad that some of the good Republicans will lose seats because of Trump. However, November is a long ways away. If he comes out against Trump maybe he'll win and start doing some good.

Also I just moved to New Hampshire a few months ago. It is very political up this way. People get motivated up here.
 
Kreton said:
Oppose Trump at almost everything that disgusting pos wants to do. When he and his supporters are all out of offices, then the Republican party might one day earn back the possibility of my votes. And not just my votes for them, but my votes against them. Every election of my adult life I look at each candidate and vote based on who I think the best candidate is. R, D, L, I never mattered much. I have voted R and L more than anything. However, now, I am voting 100% D on everything for no reason than oppose and put up as many road blocks to as much crap as Trump wants to do until he and all of his supporters are gone. And believe what you want to, but there are a lot of other people doing the same. The anti Trump movement is real and growing. Everything he has done will be repealed when the next president takes office. I don't care if the Democrats get a super super super majority. I'd rather deal with the fallout of that than the fallout if this asshole stays in.
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So results don't matter to you? That speaks volumes about you, Hatred is poor motivation and ignores results. Disgusting POS? Disgusting rhetoric diverts from great economic results. You probably should pay closer attention to your own economic results

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Kreton said:
It is somewhat sad that some of the good Republicans will lose seats because of Trump. However, November is a long ways away. If he comes out against Trump maybe he'll win and start doing some good.
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He should have been doing some good all along.
 
Kreton said:
Yea none of that was real. Just propaganda.

Although electing a white supremacist is certainly creating racial tensions and class warfare while his give helping widen the gap between the 99% and the 1%.
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How do you reconcile that with actual results? Racial comments by you aren't productive and ignore actual results. Please post for us actual Obama results for African Americans that are better than Trump's

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Conservative said:
So results don't matter to you? That speaks volumes about you, Hatred is poor motivation and ignores results. Disgusting POS? Disgusting rhetoric diverts from great economic results. You probably should pay closer attention to your own economic results

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He hasn't done anything to impact them. The economy was already trending up and has been for years. Unemployment has been going up for years. The only thing he has done is take credit for things he didn't have any part of. And hatred is correct. I do hate him. He is a disgusting person.
 
Kreton said:
He hasn't done anything to impact them. The economy was already trending up and has been for years. Unemployment has been going up for years. The only thing he has done is take credit for things he didn't have any part of. And hatred is correct. I do hate him. He is a disgusting person.
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Trending up? 1.5% and 1.2% GDP growth and 9.4 U6 rate? Millions more part time employees and discouraged? Keep ignoring actual results while spreading hate

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Conservative said:
How do you reconcile that with actual results? Racial comments by you aren't productive and ignore actual results. Please post for us actual Obama results for African Americans that are better than Trump's

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You mean the employment rates for AA that have been climbing for years? The trend moving upward that was already happening? The only thing Trump did not was disrupt what was already happening. Nothing he has done has caused that. If you disagree tell what policy Trump passed that specifically caused unemployment among AA to grow?

AA are finding more work because they are putting in the work. They are getting more educated, they are earning their way into good jobs. The employment rates for minorities are caused by the people who are getting jobs. Not by Captain White Power. No matter what the propaganda channels are telling Trump is not walking the ghetto handing out jobs to the gang bangers and saving them.
 
Conservative said:
Trending up? 1.5% and 1.2% GDP growth and 9.4 U6 rate? Millions more part time employees and discouraged? Keep ignoring actual results while spreading hate

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The GDP growth while Trump has been in office was 1.5 and 2.3. Obamas 2 years were 2.9 and 2.6.

Unemployment has dropped every year since 2009. The trend has been going on for almost a decade despite Trump hiring illegals.

Unemployment rates for AA have dropped every year since 2009 including 9% under Obama with 1% more under Trump.

And yes, I spread hate about Trump to anyone who will listen. I hope to sway as many voters as I possibly can.

And also, economy is not the only factor. Despite the economy continuing to do what it was already doing (which isn't his success) he has done NOTHING else positive for this country.
 
Kreton said:
You mean the employment rates for AA that have been climbing for years? The trend moving upward that was already happening? The only thing Trump did not was disrupt what was already happening. Nothing he has done has caused that. If you disagree tell what policy Trump passed that specifically caused unemployment among AA to grow?

AA are finding more work because they are putting in the work. They are getting more educated, they are earning their way into good jobs. The employment rates for minorities are caused by the people who are getting jobs. Not by Captain White Power. No matter what the propaganda channels are telling Trump is not walking the ghetto handing out jobs to the gang bangers and saving them.
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Such low expectations and ignorance of context. You may not admit to being a liberal but you comments compared to actual data tell the true story

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Conservative said:
Such low expectations and ignorance of context. You may not admit to being a liberal but you comments compared to actual data tell the true story

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I've never in my life been a liberal but I am becoming one now. They are the only party who will oppose Trump. I don't even agree with a lot of their policies. I do agree with them on many socials issues. Like racism being bad, and nothing wrong with people being gay. I know that riles up conservatives to think minorities and gays are equal to them these days. But I am 100% anti Trump and will be voting in anyone who opposes him. And there are millions just like me.
 
Kreton said:
The GDP growth while Trump has been in office was 1.5 and 2.3. Obamas 2 years were 2.9 and 2.6.

Unemployment has dropped every year since 2009. The trend has been going on for almost a decade despite Trump hiring illegals.

Unemployment rates for AA have dropped every year since 2009 including 9% under Obama with 1% more under Trump.

And yes, I spread hate about Trump to anyone who will listen. I hope to sway as many voters as I possibly can.

And also, economy is not the only factor. Despite the economy continuing to do what it was already doing (which isn't his success) he has done NOTHING else positive for this country.
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Post treasury data that supports your claim, you are wrong. Stop buying rhetoric and get actual results bea.gov

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Kreton said:
I've never in my life been a liberal but I am becoming one now. They are the only party who will oppose Trump. I don't even agree with a lot of their policies. I do agree with them on many socials issues. Like racism being bad, and nothing wrong with people being gay. I know that riles up conservatives to think minorities and gays are equal to them these days. But I am 100% anti Trump and will be voting in anyone who opposes him. And there are millions just like me.
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Then stop posting and acting like one. Actual results provide a different picture of what you are trying to present. Opposing Trump means opposing actual results so yes you are liberal

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