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CDC to cut by 80 percent efforts to prevent global disease outbreak

most of you didn't believe he could just issue executive orders either, how well did that work out? most would assume he couldn't use our military as rent a cops in Saudi Arabia, but he did that too.

Presidents have ALWAYS been able to issue executive orders. Presidents have sent the military all over the globe for years. I really not sure what point you are trying to make here.
 
Clearly he is the president is he not? if anyone makes a decision within the administration it is Trump's responsibility to know what that decision is...and Trump is the final authority and ultimately responsible. I knew you would try to weasel out of it.

Try to weasel out of what?
Vegas made a claim that the President ORDERED tests to not be used. I asked for proof and as of yet has provided NONE. ZILCH, NADA.

Do you want to provide proof that the President gave that order?
 
If I say Obama was guilty will you admit trump is guilty?

If by guilty you mean that the ultimate failure of the CDC falls on the President, then yes I am willing to admit that. That is a lot different that what you had claimed earlier.
 
If by guilty you mean that the ultimate failure of the CDC falls on the President, then yes I am willing to admit that. That is a lot different that what you had claimed earlier.

Not really.
 
Try to weasel out of what?
Vegas made a claim that the President ORDERED tests to not be used. I asked for proof and as of yet has provided NONE. ZILCH, NADA.

Do you want to provide proof that the President gave that order?

The tests were refused...it doesn't take a super brite person to understand who had the say so in such a thing
 
How so?

Do you believe there is no difference between the President ordering someone to do something and someone acting on their own?

The buck stops with the prez
 
Actually, our ability to contain outbreaks may be better than they have ever been before. Cell phones started giving us warnings while the chinese government was trying to contain the news rather than the pandemic. All other nations could have shut down transportation between areas way faster than they did. Regional and local governments could have been preparing for the pandemic much sooner than has happened. Normal citizens have and continue to know the dangers of this outbreak and yet I am still watching restaurants and malls filling up. We really do not need more government agencies, we need smarter governments. All we have to do is look at other countries and learn from them.

You're almost right. Correctly state that we needed a stronger, smarter national response, and you would be correct.

It's not as if I and several others didn't correctly predict that all this would happen. :shrug:
 
Good, I would prefer that money be spent in the USA, not “in 39 out of 49 countries ”.
Let those countries pay their own way.
 
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The buck stops with the prez

I guess that means Obama was guilty of all of the following:
Hillary's unsecured email server
Guns that were lost in Fast and Furious one of which was used to kill a border agent
Lois Lerner utilizing IRS to target conservative groups
Benghazi
Biggest data breach in history of federal employee information

The difference between us is I realize that the federal government is massive and no President has the ability to control everything that goes on. You believe that the President is one level below God and can control everything that occurs in this country.
 
Now let's look at some examples of people other than myself who got it right. Remember, this was over two years ago. Note the ignorant comments that several of them received in return.


:applaud





And our luck has run out.



"There's something very familiar about all this..."

It's almost like Trump planned this. Then I remember he's an idiot, and this unmitigated disaster is a result of his baffoonery.
 
I guess that means Obama was guilty of all of the following:
Hillary's unsecured email server
Guns that were lost in Fast and Furious one of which was used to kill a border agent
Lois Lerner utilizing IRS to target conservative groups
Benghazi
Biggest data breach in history of federal employee information

The difference between us is I realize that the federal government is massive and no President has the ability to control everything that goes on. You believe that the President is one level below God and can control everything that occurs in this country.

No. You believe trump is God and therefore can have no fault
 
You are woefully uninformed on what happened during Katrina with gun confiscation.

No, one of the reasons guns were confiscated was because there were shootings. And there are very different stories depending on who is talking.
 
You are free to place blame wherever you choose. Trump owns the test kit fiasco. Trump owns his early statements saying thus was not a big deal. Trump owns cutting the CDC pandemic team.


Trump owns this mess.

Its not a big deal. The Democrats politicized it and Trump has no option but to respond to the hysteria. From the beginning Trump has repeated what the experts told him and he's said 100 times its going to change from day to day. I couldn't believe when I went to the store and all these knuckle heads bought all the toilet paper. This isn't the Black Death of 1341. We have over reacted, theres nothing to be done about a virus burning thru a population in modern times. One person on a private air plane got all of Iran infected. When its all said and one I'll bet you we'll find out its no more deadly then the flu.

This mayor of Chicago is crying about testing back ups at her airport. An airport drenched with Democrat political cronyism and corruption, meanwhile more people have been murdered in her city then have died from corona in all of America. And most who have died have been old people in their '80s. Or are smokers. Or are on the honeybun diet. Another problem we have is a population that always expects the Fed to wipe their rear ends for them, another symptom of the Liberal "where's mine" attitude. I saw it in Katrina and seeing it on a massive scale now.

57 have died from corona in America, almost every one old. In the same time frame, using 1 Jan 20 as a start point, 108,000 have died from heart disease. Over 100,000 k from cancer.100,000 k from cancer. 170,000 die each year from accidents. 150,000 k a year stroke out. 122,000 a year from alzeimers. 84,000 a year from diabetes. 56,000 from Influenza. Hell, 47,000 a year kills themselves.

So go buy your ass wipe and sit at home hiding. I fond politicking this thing disgusting.
 
You're almost right. Correctly state that we needed a stronger, smarter national response, and you would be correct.

It's not as if I and several others didn't correctly predict that all this would happen. :shrug:

They need to be stronger, smarter International/national/state/county/local response.

PS, when you have lived long enough, you will find predicting subpar government performance is quite easy to do.
 
Its not a big deal. The Democrats politicized it and Trump has no option but to respond to the hysteria. From the beginning Trump has repeated what the experts told him and he's said 100 times its going to change from day to day. I couldn't believe when I went to the store and all these knuckle heads bought all the toilet paper. This isn't the Black Death of 1341. We have over reacted, theres nothing to be done about a virus burning thru a population in modern times. One person on a private air plane got all of Iran infected. When its all said and one I'll bet you we'll find out its no more deadly then the flu.

This mayor of Chicago is crying about testing back ups at her airport. An airport drenched with Democrat political cronyism and corruption, meanwhile more people have been murdered in her city then have died from corona in all of America. And most who have died have been old people in their '80s. Or are smokers. Or are on the honeybun diet. Another problem we have is a population that always expects the Fed to wipe their rear ends for them, another symptom of the Liberal "where's mine" attitude. I saw it in Katrina and seeing it on a massive scale now.

57 have died from corona in America, almost every one old. In the same time frame, using 1 Jan 20 as a start point, 108,000 have died from heart disease. Over 100,000 k from cancer.100,000 k from cancer. 170,000 die each year from accidents. 150,000 k a year stroke out. 122,000 a year from alzeimers. 84,000 a year from diabetes. 56,000 from Influenza. Hell, 47,000 a year kills themselves.

So go buy your ass wipe and sit at home hiding. I fond politicking this thing disgusting.

Upset that this will affect trump in November?


You should be. Lol
 
No. You believe trump is God and therefore can have no fault

Nope that would be inaccurate.

You on the other hand have lost sense of reason and logical thinking. I am glad my decisions in life are not driven by emotion but rationale thought.

Those with TDS have cried wolf for so long that you have lost all credibility. That is why more and more people actually believe that msm is "fake news".
Dems and those who believe the crap they are spewing have honestly reached the point that they would rather see the country destroyed if that is what it took to win politically.

Poll: 77 percent say major news outlets report 'fake news' - POLITICO
 
Nope that would be inaccurate.

You on the other hand have lost sense of reason and logical thinking. I am glad my decisions in life are not driven by emotion but rationale thought.

Those with TDS have cried wolf for so long that you have lost all credibility. That is why more and more people actually believe that msm is "fake news".
Dems and those who believe the crap they are spewing have honestly reached the point that they would rather see the country destroyed if that is what it took to win politically.

Poll: 77 percent say major news outlets report 'fake news' - POLITICO

Your blind devotion to trump and fox news causes you to buy into conspiracy theories.

Like:

The democrats control the media from a hollowed out volcano island. Lol
 
Your blind devotion to trump and fox news causes you to buy into conspiracy theories.

Like:

The democrats control the media from a hollowed out volcano island. Lol

Again, that is where we differ. I actually use my brain when making decisions.
Why is that TDS causes people to lose all ability of intelligent thought? Is it like some with PTSD that jump at the sound of loud noises?

You are the one that started posting claims on here of what the President ordered done. YOU have still not produced any PROOF of your claim.
Try to make claims based on facts not what your emotions tells you sounds good.
 
Again, that is where we differ. I actually use my brain when making decisions.
Why is that TDS causes people to lose all ability of intelligent thought? Is it like some with PTSD that jump at the sound of loud noises?

You are the one that started posting claims on here of what the President ordered done. YOU have still not produced any PROOF of your claim.
Again, try to make claims based on facts not what your emotions tells you sounds good.

As soon as you say TDS you out yourself as a forever trumper.


You will defend him to the death. Facts be dammed. Lol
 
As soon as you say TDS you out yourself as a forever trumper.


You will defend him to the death. Facts be dammed. Lol

Give facts of your claim or as you say be dammed.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nt-efforts-to-prevent-global-disease-outbreak



Cool, let's just go ahead and let pandemics become easier to happen. :doh

For those who are foolish enough to believe that this is a good thing, do not forget how easily Ebola, MERS, etc. spread from one continent to another. Our ability to contain potential pandemics is limited enough as is.

This reminds me of the book by Jared Diamond years ago, "Guns, Germs and Steel" describing how the human species has grown over the ages, and how it has been "thinned" in cycles.
 
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