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Secret Memo Hints at a New Republican Target: Rod Rosenstein

slick said:
Amusing stuff. Once Mueller gets the goods on Trump do you think Trump will fly in one of his own jets to Russia in order to
avoid the gallows? Probably you think that's in the cards!
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Interesting. Do you also read palms? You should tell others what they think too.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Did carter page testify to Congress? Yes or no?

Did his testimony get released as per the article? Yes or no?

Are Clovis and Papadopoulos part of the investigation now? Yes or no?
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Yes he did. Did he incriminate Trump in any way? No.

Was the testimony released? Apparently so. Does it incriminate Trump in any way? No.

Papadopoulos has been part of the investigation for quite some time now. I am not sure about Clovis but maybe he is too. Does that in any way incriminate President Trump? No.

If it turns out the bad boys in the FBI caught red handed are now part of the investigation, will that incriminate Hillary? Obama? Lynch? Comey? Mueller?
 
AlbqOwl said:
Yes he did. Did he incriminate Trump in any way? No.

Was the testimony released? Apparently so. Does it incriminate Trump in any way? No.

Papadopoulos has been part of the investigation for quite some time now. I am not sure about Clovis but maybe he is too. Does that in any way incriminate President Trump? No.

If it turns out the bad boys in the FBI caught red handed are now part of the investigation, will that incriminate Hillary? Obama? Lynch? Comey? Mueller?
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Did Papadopoulos, Clovis, Page, manafort work for trump’s campaign? Yes or no.

Is trump not ultimately responsible for his own presidential campaign.

Are Kushner and Donald Trump Jr not part of trump’s inner circle?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Did Papadopoulos, Clovis, Page, manafort work for trump’s campaign? Yes or no.

Is trump not ultimately responsible for his own presidential campaign.

Are Kushner and Donald Trump Jr not part of trump’s inner circle?
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Trump is not responsible for what people do on their own dime for their own purposes that he has no way to know about even if those people are found doing something wrong. And I am pretty sure that you are going to be bitterly disappointed when Kushner and Don Jr. are also exonerated of any wrongdoing.

Are you relying on an online publication run by a guy convicted of bad faith securities trading who has consistently aided and abetted the Clinton campaign while trashing the Trump campaign? Will you be culpable of libel/slander if your information is found to be fake news?
 
AlbqOwl said:
The BusinessInsider is owned by a disgraced wallstreet guy, Henry Blodget, who due to his violations of securities laws and ultimate civil trial conviction is permanently banned from involvement in the securities industries. He has been savagely outspoken in condemning Donald J. Trump, his campaign, and his presidency and he was a strong supporter of the DNC and the Clinton campaign. I have caught that publication in more than one error in facts. Whatever truth might be found in that article is almost certainly buried under unsupportable claims, innuendo, etc. Otherwise it would have been all over the news since that story was published.
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And yet you daily defend Donald Trump ... who defrauded thousands with his Trump University bait-and-switch scheme and shelled out $25 million to make the legal problems go away.

Trump also self-admittedly 'played' the US bankruptcy court system 6 different times and bragged that he was brilliant at it.

Lol. The hypocrisy in your posts is absolutely astounding and apparently limitless.
 
slick said:
Amusing stuff. Once Mueller gets the goods on Trump do you think Trump will fly in one of his own jets to Russia in order to
avoid the gallows? Probably you think that's in the cards!
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Lol, you think Mueller asked him for an interview without already having goods on him.
 
Mr Person said:
*sigh*

As I already noted:

"Three people" =/= one person.
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"Democrats who have read the document say Republicans have cherry-picked facts to create a misleading and dangerous narrative. But in their efforts to discredit the inquiry, Republicans could potentially use Mr. Rosenstein’s decision to approve the renewal to suggest that he failed to properly vet a highly sensitive application for a warrant to spy on Mr. Page, who served as a Trump foreign policy adviser until September 2016."

Democrats. Plural. So that makes at least two of the three sources not in the White House, and neither of the two came forward. Again, why?

When you run out of logical and benign excuses for being an anonymous source all you are left with is that they are laundering a false narrative and don't want to be politically connected to it.
 
Absentglare said:
Lol, you think Mueller asked him for an interview without already having goods on him.
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So it looking like Trump escapes prosecution flying to Russia kinda like Yanukovich did after escaping
from Ukraine & Putin provides sanctuary for his good pal Trump who he colluded with. Got it!
 
slick said:
So it looking like Trump escapes prosecution flying to Russia kinda like Yanukovich did after escaping
from Ukraine & Putin provides sanctuary for his good pal Trump who he colluded with. Got it!
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Why would they do that when they can "cleanse" the FBI and turn it into their personal gestapo?
 
JANFU said:
From what I gather, Nunes has gathered Intel, that he implies points to criminal activities. Thing is, he accessed the Intel, shaped and picked what he wished...
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If the memo is about FISA abuses as advertised, isn't that pretty cut and dry?

What I mean is, picking the abuses out of the stack is what is supposed to be done. It isn't a situation where someone caught abusing the system can get out of it by showing the all times that they didn't abuse it... right? As for shaping the instances, exactly how does a person shape an instance of abuse? They either misrepresented themselves in front of the judge or they didn't.

I think far too many people are buying into the democrats talking points on this, when they should be asking themselves why not one of those democrats voted to have that memo released? If it's as bogus as they say it is, why are they so fearful of the public getting their hands on it?


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jmotivator said:
"Democrats who have read the document say Republicans have cherry-picked facts to create a misleading and dangerous narrative. But in their efforts to discredit the inquiry, Republicans could potentially use Mr. Rosenstein’s decision to approve the renewal to suggest that he failed to properly vet a highly sensitive application for a warrant to spy on Mr. Page, who served as a Trump foreign policy adviser until September 2016."

Democrats. Plural. So that makes at least two of the three sources not in the White House, and neither of the two came forward. Again, why?

When you run out of logical and benign excuses for being an anonymous source all you are left with is that they are laundering a false narrative and don't want to be politically connected to it.
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As was in the prior post, three people familiar with the memo = the sources:


WASHINGTON — A secret, highly contentious Republican memo reveals that Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein approved an application to extend surveillance of a former Trump campaign associate shortly after taking office last spring, according to three people familiar with it. The renewal shows that the Justice Department under President Trump saw reason to believe that the associate, Carter Page, was acting as a Russian agent. But the reference to Mr. Rosenstein’s actions in the memo — a much-disputed document that paints the investigation into Russian election meddling as tainted from the start — indicates that Republicans may be moving to seize on his role as they seek to undermine the inquiry

The memo’s primary contention is that F.B.I. and Justice Department officials failed to adequately explain to an intelligence court judge in initially seeking a warrant for surveillance of Mr. Page that they were relying in part on research by an investigator, Christopher Steele, that had been financed by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Democrats who have read the document say Republicans have cherry-picked facts to create a misleading and dangerous narrative. But in their efforts to discredit the inquiry, Republicans could potentially use Mr. Rosenstein’s decision to approve the renewal to suggest that he failed to properly vet a highly sensitive application for a warrant to spy on Mr. Page, who served as a Trump foreign policy adviser until September 2016.

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Anyway, I don't have the patience to argue any further about your dishonest conspiracy theories.
 
Mr Person said:
As was in the prior post, three people familiar with the memo = the sources:


WASHINGTON — A secret, highly contentious Republican memo reveals that Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein approved an application to extend surveillance of a former Trump campaign associate shortly after taking office last spring, according to three people familiar with it. The renewal shows that the Justice Department under President Trump saw reason to believe that the associate, Carter Page, was acting as a Russian agent. But the reference to Mr. Rosenstein’s actions in the memo — a much-disputed document that paints the investigation into Russian election meddling as tainted from the start — indicates that Republicans may be moving to seize on his role as they seek to undermine the inquiry

The memo’s primary contention is that F.B.I. and Justice Department officials failed to adequately explain to an intelligence court judge in initially seeking a warrant for surveillance of Mr. Page that they were relying in part on research by an investigator, Christopher Steele, that had been financed by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Democrats who have read the document say Republicans have cherry-picked facts to create a misleading and dangerous narrative. But in their efforts to discredit the inquiry, Republicans could potentially use Mr. Rosenstein’s decision to approve the renewal to suggest that he failed to properly vet a highly sensitive application for a warrant to spy on Mr. Page, who served as a Trump foreign policy adviser until September 2016.

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Anyway, I don't have the patience to argue any further about your dishonest conspiracy theories.
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Yes, and it said that Democrats, plural, as sources of this opinion.... so it is either 2D/1R or 3D. Do you know which it is? You tried to make the claim that the sources were anonymous for their own protection, when at least 2 of them need no protection... and yet still make statements anonymously.
 
jmotivator said:
Yes, and it said that Democrats, plural, as sources of this opinion.... so it is either 2D/1R or 3D. Do you know which it is? You tried to make the claim that the sources were anonymous for their own protection, when at least 2 of them need no protection... and yet still make statements anonymously.
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More dishonesty.

After quoting that excerpt from the article, I said:

So, the 'hints' isn't about the memo having some end note saying "hey, guys. PSSST! Perhaps you should think about going after that guy with two Rs in his name, but no As or Cs."

The memo instead identifies a very good reason for Trump & Co. to want to remove Rosenstein. Trump fired Comey to muddle the investigation, leaned on Sessions to stop looking into Flynn (who has now pled guilty, btw), and tried to fire Mueller only to back down when his attorney threatened to quit rather than engage in unethical behavior. And then there's McCabe, who caved to GOP pressure and ran away. The article goes on to note that Trump originally wanted to fire Ros instead of Mueller and that he has been increasingly complaining to staff about him.

It ain't rocket surgery to work out that maybe Rosenstein is going to become a target.



That's why you don't respond based on a title alone. Anyway, what's it matter? There's always the newly minted deflection tactic of pretending that journalism only just started using "anonymous sources".......



I've removed it from the quote box so it doesn't automatically get snipped if you reply with another dishonest post.
 
Mr Person said:
More dishonesty.
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I'm not the one being dishonest here. Here is the statement you made that precipitated the discussion of the party affiliation of the sources:

Mr Person said:
Ah.....

Have you been paying attention to how Trump responds to anyone he considers to be against him in some way? To people who so much as fail to praise him? Three sources were cited on this one. Some may be Republicans who realize what a colossal cluster**** America has found itself in...
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As I said then, and continue to say now, what Democrats does do Trump have the ability to fire who would be in that list of sources?
 
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