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DOJ recovers missing text messages between anti-Trump FBI agents Strzok and Page

apdst said:
It helps prove that Mueller's investigation is a witch hunt.
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How? Let's go ahead and remember a WHOLE year ago. Mueller was set into motion because of Trump's actions...he fired a sitting FBI director and supposedly asked him to drop investigating Monefort. That's the only reason Mueller is doing what he's currently doing. So this investigation is happening because of Trump firing Comey and the AG assigning a Special Prosecutor to dissuade any idea that the Comey firing was a coverup.

That is some hardcore string pulling by this secret society....
 
Slyfox696 said:
I don't think there would be anyone who would object to ALL of the text messages being released. If these people did something wrong, then it needs to be published in full and in full context.

But if the messages are not going to be published in full, then they don't need to be published at all (and by "in full", obviously any FBI investigation sensitive materials need to be handled appropriately).
It's not way beyond belief at all. I've been in a situation where my job's backups were corrupted and it was not known they were corrupted until they needed to be restored. In fact, some of the files WEREN'T corrupted, but some were.

It's not beyond belief. Now, should the FBI have checks in place to help ensure something like this doesn't happen? Of course they should. But it's not at all beyond belief and it would not be not at all surprising if there are other gaps in data, just in time frames people don't care about.
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I know that when it comes to backups, that is one reason companies do disaster recovery tests, once or twice a year. They throw the backups on an isolated machien, and make sure they can get their applications up and running.
 
Fenton said:
Then why join Mueller's team ? Better yet, why obtain FISA warrants to covertly surveill Trump and his team prior to the election if there was " no there there " ?
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He probably joined Mueller's team because he has bosses that told him to.

The "no there's there" is probably in regards to collusion with Russia. There was definitely reason to investigate Monefort.
 
iliveonramen said:
If you're not pro-Trump you're against him. That's pretty much the criteria.
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I am it pretty much works the opposite way too... if you aren't against Trump you are Pro-Trump..
 
iliveonramen said:
How? Let's go ahead and remember a WHOLE year ago. Mueller was set into motion because of Trump's actions...he fired a sitting FBI director and supposedly asked him to drop investigating Monefort. That's the only reason Mueller is doing what he's currently doing. So this investigation is happening because of Trump firing Comey and the AG assigning a Special Prosecutor to dissuade any idea that the Comey firing was a coverup.

That is some hardcore string pulling by this secret society....
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How? Because Strzok said "there's no big there, there".

President Trump never asked Comey to drop the investigation of Manafort. I don't know that they even discussed Manafort.
 
iguanaman said:
That possibility cannot be overlooked can it? Lying is not unheard of in the Trump world to say the least. There is no evidence that he is telling the truth. Without evidence there is no case.
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Right...everything that destroys your fairy tale must be a lie.
 
so, the text messages were not really missing; folks just thought they were missing?

I recall a particular someone asking the Russians to help with producing the 30,000 missing HRC emails; maybe they could check with the Russians, next time?
 
apdst said:
How? Because Strzok said "there's no big there, there".

President Trump never asked Comey to drop the investigation of Manafort. I don't know that they even discussed Manafort.
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My bad, I meant Flynn. Hard to keep all the Trump officials with Russian ties straight.

There was a big "there" when it came to Flynn and Monefort.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
I've worked on quite a few systems were older stuff was archived on different storage media, but they always had periodic access by running statistical reports, such that archive storage corruption would be noticed before it was too late.
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Again, I'm not saying it should happen, I'm saying it's not beyond belief that it did, especially with government systems, which (at least historically) have had budget issues.
NonoBadDog said:
I totally agree except I don't want to see any messages that are about the affair unless they relate to the investigation. I don't want to know what other people do with their genitals.
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I think they all need to be released. Releasing them all avoids any selective framing of messages by anyone.
RAMOSS said:
I know that when it comes to backups, that is one reason companies do disaster recovery tests, once or twice a year. They throw the backups on an isolated machien, and make sure they can get their applications up and running.
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Yes, this is definitely what SHOULD happen.
 
iliveonramen said:
I don't know...I don't even know who this whistleblower is. I know only a complete idiot would text on a government phone that they are have a secret society meeting if there was a secret society. Why would you even name that you have a "secret society". You would say, "hey, bring it up at the meeting". Heck, you'd think that would be something you would at least do on your personal phone rather than your work phone?

If there is some secret society with plans to take down a president they are doomed from the start.
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I think they thought for sure Hillary was going to win, so they did not care what they texted to each other.
After all, Hillary was so completely casual about her digital security and nothing happened to her.
She set a legal precedent. Just say you had no "intent" and you get a pass.
 
tres borrachos said:
I don't really care if I see them or not. Why would I want to read the puppy dog texts of two adults having an affair?
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Well, I think that it is important to have people know it's either nothing or it isn't. There have been people making big deal out of memos and texts, and yet, there is nothing to show that there is anything there at all that is worth while.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Good! Release them all, so the Republicans can (again) be shown that conspiracy theories are looked upon with utter scorn by thinking people for good reason.
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I love how you think you can accurately predict the future. I am not going to make any predictions until I know what the **** I am talking about and nobody does at this point.
 
Casper said:
Good, problem solved. Not interested in what some government employee is texting their girlfriend or people just sharing their opinions on anything amongst themselves, unless there is hard evidence of criminal acts then it is irrelevant IMO.
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Are you just going to the extreme for for some nonsensical purpose? The phones are owned and issued by the FBI. They are business phones and everything on them is property of the US Govt. It is a legal requirement for govt officials to memorialize all documents that are germane to their job. Strzok (head of Counter Terror of the FBI) thought using text messages couldn't be traced and told Page to use text rather than email so they could circumvent the legal requirements. I see two problems here. They were using government property and they avoided the collection of their texts on govt equipment. Nobody cares about the personal texts but if someone is stupid enough to send dick shots on their govt phone then maybe they need to rethink that person's employment.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Are you just going to the extreme for for some nonsensical purpose? The phones are owned and issued by the FBI. They are business phones and everything on them is property of the US Govt. It is a legal requirement for govt officials to memorialize all documents that are germane to their job. Strzok (head of Counter Terror of the FBI) thought using text messages couldn't be traced and told Page to use text rather than email so they could circumvent the legal requirements. I see two problems here. They were using government property and they avoided the collection of their texts on govt equipment. Nobody cares about the personal texts but if someone is stupid enough to send dick shots on their govt phone then maybe they need to rethink that person's employment.
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Two small points:

1. Government cellphones permit incidental personal use.
2. There is no expectation of privacy.
 
iliveonramen said:
One of the recovered texts takes place in May of 17 and Strozik (SP?) mentions he doesn't even want to join Muellers team in a text.
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In his next text he says, maybe it would be worth it if it involved impeachment.
 
Jack Hays said:
Two small points:

1. Government cellphones permit incidental personal use.
2. There is no expectation of privacy.
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It's amazing that one of the top people in the FBI thought they could avoid detection by using text messages. I would think he would be an expert in the capabilities of the FBI.
 
NonoBadDog said:
It's amazing that one of the top people in the FBI thought they could avoid detection by using text messages. I would think he would be an expert in the capabilities of the FBI.
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I don't think he was trying to avoid detection, because he believed he was untouchable.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Or..... he was not breaking any law by simply texting.
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If that were true those 50,000 text messages wouldn't have gotten "lost".

I'll bet that the "insurance policy" that Strzok referrenced was code for an assassination plot.
 
RAMOSS said:
Well, I think that it is important to have people know it's either nothing or it isn't. There have been people making big deal out of memos and texts, and yet, there is nothing to show that there is anything there at all that is worth while.
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I agree with the bolded print. I love sunshine.

From what I am gathering the memo will be released before the end of next week. There are other Republican congress critters pushing for the release of classified documents associated with the memo to insure We the People have all the references to the summary. If they are corroborating to do such a thing then I believe they undoubtedly have found the there....there.

Another note about these emails that have been just found. The time period that was missing coincides with the massive uptick of unmaskings of anyone associated with the Trump team requests from members of the Obama WH, Rice, Rhodes, etc and Samantha Power who had an excessive number of unmaskings 300 at least that she claims she did not authorize.

So let us get to the truth.



We still have some genuine journalists who haven't become political hacks but actually investigate. There are not many left as they have become a dying breed. And that is unfortunate for We the People because the press is suppose to hold to account those in power. That is why they are included in the First Amendment. But that is not the case with so many so called journalists these days. They are nothing but political hacks pushing the agenda of a political party.

But I still have hope the truth will rise like cream to the top.
 
apdst said:
I don't think he was trying to avoid detection, because he believed he was untouchable.
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Here is what I am basing my previous statement on:
"So look, you say we text on that phone when we talk about Hillary because it can't be traced, you were just venting, bc you feel bad that you're gone so much but that can't be helped right now," Page wrote on April 2, according to a text released by the DOJ last week.
Peter Strzok-Lisa Page texts release has a lingering question - Business Insider

I also think the he probably thought he was untouchable but he was still smart enough, in a real stupid way, to avoid being traced.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Here is what I am basing my previous statement on:
"So look, you say we text on that phone when we talk about Hillary because it can't be traced, you were just venting, bc you feel bad that you're gone so much but that can't be helped right now," Page wrote on April 2, according to a text released by the DOJ last week.
Peter Strzok-Lisa Page texts release has a lingering question - Business Insider

I also think the he probably thought he was untouchable but he was still smart enough, in a real stupid way, to avoid being traced.
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Maybe Strzok is just stupid, then?
 
apdst said:
Maybe Strzok is just stupid, then?
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I think he was ignorant of the technical capabilities of his own agency. He was the head of Counter Terrorism for the FBI. I am just a country boy living in the mountains and I know better than that. Yeah, I guess that could be considered stupid.
 
apdst said:
Right...everything that destroys your fairy tale must be a lie.
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You are the one with fairy tales. You do know that evidence is evidence and it matters not who discovers it. Trump will go down on evidence not "secret societies"
 
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