GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham rips into White House for Trump's change on immigration deal

Rogue Valley · Jan 20, 2018

GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham rips into White House for Trump's change on immigration deal

By Jacob Pramuk
January 19, 2018

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham (SC) and Donald Trump

Sen. Lindsey Graham saw a distinct change in President Donald Trump's views on immigration legislation last week — and he pinned it on one White House aide in particular on Friday. On Jan. 9, Trump told lawmakers to seek a bipartisan solution on immigration and signaled that he would sign whatever they put in front of him. Two days later, he flatly rejected a plan brought to him by Graham, Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and others, helping to set back talks on avoiding a government shutdown that will happen at midnight if Congress cannot reach a deal. Graham, who said he will not support a temporary funding bill passed by the House when the Senate takes it up Friday, sees Trump policy advisor Stephen Miller as part of the problem. "The Stephen Miller approach to immigration has no viability. Tuesday, the president was in a good place. He was the president of all of us," Graham told MSNBC on Friday. "He spoke compassionately about immigration, tough on security, wanted bipartisanship. Two days later, there was a major change."

Some senators thought the bipartisan proposal presented to Trump met the president's immigration demands. It would have protected hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants while boosting border security measures and reforming extended family migration and the visa "lottery" system. It also would have given the immigrants shielded by the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which Trump ended, an eventual pathway to citizenship. Graham suggested that Miller, an immigration hardliner, rejected the outlines of the bipartisan deal. He also said that the approach of his colleague Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., "has no viability" in bipartisan talks. Graham told MSNBC that voting for the House bill, which would keep the government funded through Feb. 16, would extend "chaos."

In Sen. Graham's view, Trump reneged on the bipartisan immigration deal primarily due to the machinations of Stephen Miller, Donald Trump's senior adviser for policy. Miller's views on immigration are identical to the far Alt-right.

Related: Stephen Miller to Blame for Trump's Lack of Immigration, DACA Reform, Republicans Say

Rosie1 · Jan 20, 2018

I heard this. I don't believe Trump likes the word "bipartisan." He cannot blame the democrats for a bipartisan bill. And with Bannon gone, he still has right wing whackos dictating his politics.

haymarket · Jan 20, 2018

Rogue Valley said:
GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham rips into White House for Trump's change on immigration deal

In Sen. Graham's view, Trump reneged on the bipartisan immigration deal primarily due to the machinations of Stephen Miller, Donald Trump's senior adviser for policy. Miller's views on immigration are identical to the far Alt-right.

Related: Stephen Miller to Blame for Trump's Lack of Immigration, DACA Reform, Republicans Say

Which explains why Graham has been kissing Trumps bloated ass for the last couple of months instead of taking them ore independent stance he had earlier adopted . Lets hope he is not fooled again.

Barnacle · Jan 20, 2018

Spineless, wishy-washy Graham is still upset that Trump didn't accept the plan he and Dick Durbin "hashed out". Unfortunately, Graham already saw himself as the great mediator - the guy who reaches across the aisle and saves the day. (ha ha ha).

One part of his reaching-across-the-aisle plan involved reducing the lottery immigration numbers by 50%.
I guess he didn't hear the part that said elimination of lottery immigration.

I can only imagine what the rest of that Graham/Durbin plan offered. :lol:

Barnacle · Jan 20, 2018

Only a moron like Graham can link illegals to the plight of the American military.

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Military necessity —combined with the reality that DACA recipient lives will soon be turned upside down — provides the incentive for Congress to get it right once and for all.

9:27 AM - Jan 20, 2018

Winston · Jan 20, 2018

Barnacle said:
Spineless, wishy-washy Graham is still upset that Trump didn't accept the plan he and Dick Durbin "hashed out". Unfortunately, Graham already saw himself as the great mediator - the guy who reaches across the aisle and saves the day. (ha ha ha).

One part of his reaching-across-the-aisle plan involved reducing the lottery immigration numbers by 50%.
I guess he didn't hear the part that said elimination of lottery immigration.

I can only imagine what the rest of that Graham/Durbin plan offered. :lol:

It's perturbing to watch conservatives cannibalize each other.

Barnacle · Jan 20, 2018

Winston said:
It's perturbing to watch conservatives cannibalize each other.

Yup, agree. I always thought the GOP is the spineless half of the uniparty in the American congress.

Helix · Jan 20, 2018

looks like Graham still wants to run for president. i don't understand why anyone would leave the Senate voluntarily other than for health or age reasons. the presidency is a ****ty job. i'd prefer to get elected to a Senate seat and stay there until age forces me to retire.

Cardinal · Jan 20, 2018

Helix said:
looks like Graham still wants to run for president. i don't understand why anyone would leave the Senate voluntarily other than for health or age reasons. the presidency is a ****ty job. i'd prefer to get elected to a Senate seat and stay there until age forces me to retire.

A Rep would be even better. You have a bit less power but a more homogenous base to please. Clearly I'm not the big administrative type.

Phys251 · Jan 20, 2018

Winston said:
It's perturbing to watch conservatives cannibalize each other.

Nah it's one of the few things saving us. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

MrPeanut · Jan 20, 2018

To think that anyone could sit there and listen to that dead-eyed creep Miller, and actually find him persuasive is wild.

camlok · Jan 20, 2018

Donald Trump, the male equivalent of Sarah Palin, only dumber.

Helix · Jan 20, 2018

Cardinal said:
A Rep would be even better. You have a bit less power but a more homogenous base to please. Clearly I'm not the big administrative type.

i wouldn't turn down the job, but an election every two years? man, i don't know. seems like you'd always be running. i'd do it, but i would prefer the senate.

there's this assay at work that's pretty difficult. when i started there, one of the dudes i work with said "if anyone asks you to train on this assay, punch them out, turn around, and walk away." that's sort of what the presidency looks like to me. i look at senators who try for the presidency like a horror movie where the entire theater is yelling "don't go in there!"

reinoe · Jan 20, 2018

Helix said:
i wouldn't turn down the job, but an election every two years? man, i don't know. seems like you'd always be running. i'd do it, but i would prefer the senate.

there's this assay at work that's pretty difficult. when i started there, one of the dudes i work with said "if anyone asks you to train on this assay, punch them out, turn around, and walk away." that's sort of what the presidency looks like to me. i look at senators who try for the presidency like a horror movie where the entire theater is yelling "don't go in there!"

Senators don't necessarily have a good track record of being presidents because they don't govern and their decisions are not of great consequence anyway. I could see why a Governor would want to be president buy you are right: the Senate is a cakewalk.

Blue_State · Jan 20, 2018

Rogue Valley said:
GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham rips into White House for Trump's change on immigration deal

In Sen. Graham's view, Trump reneged on the bipartisan immigration deal primarily due to the machinations of Stephen Miller, Donald Trump's senior adviser for policy. Miller's views on immigration are identical to the far Alt-right.

Related: Stephen Miller to Blame for Trump's Lack of Immigration, DACA Reform, Republicans Say

Purely playing politics and not solving the problem. Disgraceful. They had the chance to get a compromise on both issues, and no Democrat can say what they didn't like in the presented bill. There is nothing in there that they disagree with. Weak and spineless.

Linc · Jan 20, 2018

Helix said:
i wouldn't turn down the job, but an election every two years? man, i don't know. seems like you'd always be running. i'd do it, but i would prefer the senate.

there's this assay at work that's pretty difficult. when i started there, one of the dudes i work with said "if anyone asks you to train on this assay, punch them out, turn around, and walk away." that's sort of what the presidency looks like to me. i look at senators who try for the presidency like a horror movie where the entire theater is yelling "don't go in there!"

As you mentioned every 2 years; we've outgrown that #. Make the House 3 years to correlate with 6 from the Senate. Make a 6-year term for POTUS with one term only; to come back as a POTUS 6 years later if they want to;

After 12 years, we'd have only 4 elections at the federal level, versus six now; with the expectation that the House would get more done the middle year ...

dcsports · Jan 20, 2018

Rosie1 said:
I heard this. I don't believe Trump likes the word "bipartisan." He cannot blame the democrats for a bipartisan bill. And with Bannon gone, he still has right wing whackos dictating his politics.

It wasn't a bipartisan bill. There was no bill. No bill was put in front of him.

Lindsey Graham has pushed for amnesty, and is often on the outs with his party because of this. He was hoping to do an end run around his own party with this. That doesn't mean it was a viable plan.

Chomsky · Jan 20, 2018

If the GOP won't even vote for their own crap CR, why would the Dems?

If Trump thinks he's going to wait this one out, he's dreaming. He's got to get in the trenches, and show the People he's leading the way out of this. Hiding-out in his mansion in Florida, crying "Schumer, Schumer", is not going to suffice for long. Especially, as the economic numbers start slipping.

Linc · Jan 20, 2018

Chomsky said:
If the GOP won't even vote for their own crap CR, why would the Dems?

If Trump thinks he's going to wait this one out, he's dreaming. He's got to get in the trenches, and show the People he's leading the way out of this. Hiding-out in his mansion in Florida, crying "Schumer, Schumer", is not going to suffice for long. Especially, as the economic numbers start slipping.

Countdown to the SOTU--State Of Trump Unraveling

Helix · Jan 20, 2018

reinoe said:
Senators don't necessarily have a good track record of being presidents because they don't govern and their decisions are not of great consequence anyway. I could see why a Governor would want to be president buy you are right: the Senate is a cakewalk.

agreed, but a senator has plenty of influence in shifting policies.

Helix · Jan 20, 2018

NIMBY said:
As you mentioned every 2 years; we've outgrown that #. Make the House 3 years to correlate with 6 from the Senate. Make a 6-year term for POTUS with one term only; to come back as a POTUS 6 years later if they want to;

After 12 years, we'd have only 4 elections at the federal level, versus six now; with the expectation that the House would get more done the middle year ...

i'd at least consider supporting some changes to current term lengths

Lovebug · Jan 20, 2018

Lindsay thought he had something and didn't get his way. He'll get over it, the brown nosing slime ball.

Linc · Jan 20, 2018

Helix said:
i'd at least consider supporting some changes to current term lengths

We need the Constitutional Convention being advocated by retired Sen. Coburn, with his big push being for a Balanced Budget Amendment. His 'back-in-black' plan of 2011 was opposed by both fringes.

Citizen government at the CC level is now our only hope ...

Lovebug · Jan 20, 2018

Helix said:
i'd at least consider supporting some changes to current term lengths

You forget who has to vote for these changes.

Helix · Jan 20, 2018

NIMBY said:
We need the Constitutional Convention being advocated by retired Sen. Coburn, with his big push being for a Balanced Budget Amendment. His 'back-in-black' plan of 2011 was opposed by both fringes.

Citizen government at the CC level is now our only hope ...

that probably isn't going to happen, nor do i think that i'd support it at this point.

GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham rips into White House for Trump's change on immigration deal

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