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Federal government shuts down after Senate talks fail

Fearandloathing said:
Bragging rights.

He made his first big headlines with that wall....and Trump is nothing if not petty. He needs to give some "pay back" to those who laughed at him and he's doing it with your money
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I couldn't agree more. $20 billion of "Mexican" money. He's such a ****ing douchebag.
 
JANFU said:
No, the turnaround began under Obama. Next a President has little impact on the economy- as mentioned before- to many variable- to believe otherwise is to live in fairy tale land.
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Sure it did, he generated such great results that he lost the house in 10-12 and the Congress in 14-16. Seems there is a disconnect between what you believe and actual reality. Such little understanding of how the private sector operates, people who invest their own money into a business to grow it aren't going to do that and didn't do it under Democrat Obama for fear of being punished for success with higher taxes, more regulations, federal audits.
 
Conservative said:
I have posted them over and over again, you were either too laze or not interested in reading them, Go to Google, and get the list from NBC News
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No you just post pointless job numbers. That's not listing policies that Trump enacted. So what are they??? Be specific. I can't find any so I'm asking you since you appear to have all the answers.
 
Fletch said:
This entire post is nonsense. It is 100% factually correct that this shutdown is the fault of the democrats. The reason the government is shut down is lack of funding, not DACA. Democrats have decided to insert DACA and are using the shutdown as leverage. This isn't in doubt. Not my fault you cant see it.
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Sure, ok. The Kool-Aid is poisoned. You know that, right?
 
Buzz62 said:
I don't care what acronym has been formed to justify this rape of the language.
They are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. If you seek to remove that stigma from them, where's the incentive to become LEGAL?
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I didn't name the bill, Buzz. Politicians do stupid **** every day.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
No you just post pointless job numbers. That's not listing policies that Trump enacted. So what are they??? Be specific. I can't find any so I'm asking you since you appear to have all the answers.
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right pointless job numbers especially to the 2 MILLION more employed and 1 million fewer having to work part time because of the Obama economy. Of course you cannot find what you want to find so ignore the EO's
 
dcsports said:
It's good that you can see the truth. Democrats are absolutely responsible for this shutdown, as well as the last one. I'll give it to them that they are good at enforcing discipline within the party, and sticking to their guns refusing to negotiate. However, that doesn't lead to good policy or compromise. They are going to have to learn to come to the table.
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No doubt. The president also needs to act like an adult for the first time in his life and negotiate in good faith. He's changed his mind on this several times already.
 
Crosscheck said:
We reap what we sow.

And these same clowns will be voted in at the next re-election.
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Yep, many of them (who choose to run) will be re-elected. Those few new ones that join them will, soon enough, get with the program.
 
JackA said:
It may seem fair to the small minded to exact a price for not hurting children. But if there has to be a price don't make it one that hurts taxpayers
by building a boondoogle at their expense.
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It is your opinion it is a boondoggle. It cannot be "hurting" anyone to not give them something to which they are not entitled. What is being sought is an act of charity.
 
Conservative said:
right pointless job numbers especially to the 2 MILLION more employed and 1 million fewer having to work part time because of the Obama economy. Of course you cannot find what you want to find so ignore the EO's
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Still not listing any policies Trump enacted to make the economy better, I see. Why don't you just admit there aren't any?
 
gmeyers1944 said:
Democrats keep telling us that Republicans have control of the Presidency, The House of Representatives, & The Senate. The Republicans have a majority in the Senate but NOT CONTROL as 60 votes are needed to pass a bill and there are only 51 Republicans in the Senate. I hope that some Democratic senators who are representing states won by Trump but are up for reelection in 2018 will consider what their chances of reelection if they continue to obstruct.
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60 votes are needed because 51 votes are not enough to get EVERYTHING you want. The GOP and Trump must deal with the minority and that is where they failed. Trump himself said that the blame belongs at the top and he was right. The President is responsible.
 
gmeyers1944 said:
You are the Kool-Aid drinker here. Drinking the Democrat Kool-Aid.
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By allocating some of the blame for this mess to the Democrats? I don't think you know what you're saying. Also, "I know you are, but what am I?" is a little too elementary school. Can we agree on that?
 
Jack Hays said:
It is your opinion it is a boondoggle. It cannot be "hurting" anyone to not give them something to which they are not entitled. What is being sought is an act of charity.
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And the alternative is an act of HATE. This is why there is no dealing with Trump he is asking us to hate. The overwhelming majority of both parties are resisting the hate and support a DACA fix. Trump's hateful reactionary base are calling the shots in Congress and the Whitehouse.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Still not listing any policies Trump enacted to make the economy better, I see. Why don't you just admit there aren't any?
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apparently as a liberal you show you are incapable of doing your own research and thus learn something so I will let you bask in your own ignorance. Nothing anyone says or posts is going to change your mind so live with the liberal results and dependence created. I choose differently
 
I wonder how long it's going to take for Republicans to come to sense with the fact that they blew their "reconciliation" load on "tax reform." They alone put themselves in this situation. Had they saved reconciliation for this, they could have passed a one-year CR with a simple majority vote. But then again, taking responsibility is not something that the Republicans have been able to do in quite some time.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Show me where Mexico has paid anyone anything.


But I agree with you, he IS a ****ing douchebag
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That's my point. Mexico was never going to pay for anything. They straight up told us that before we elected this tool. A whole bunch of idiots believed him anyway (not all of his voters, I will say). Now here we are. With the president stomping his feet about his wall and the Democrats holding the cookie jar just outside his tiny reach.
 
iguanaman said:
And the alternative is an act of HATE. This is why there is no dealing with Trump he is asking us to hate. The overwhelming majority of both parties are resisting the hate and support a DACA fix. Trump's hateful reactionary base are calling the shots in Congress and the Whitehouse.
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Seems that illegal has a different definition in your world than the real one. Why don't you come into the real world?
 
iguanaman said:
And the alternative is an act of HATE. This is why there is no dealing with Trump he is asking us to hate. The overwhelming majority of both parties are resisting the hate and support a DACA fix. Trump's hateful reactionary base are calling the shots in Congress and the Whitehouse.
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I support a DACA fix too, and the path to it has been clear for some time. At this point it appears the Dems would rather have the issue than a solution.
 
Conservative said:
apparently as a liberal you show you are incapable of doing your own research and thus learn something so I will let you bask in your own ignorance. Nothing anyone says or posts is going to change your mind so live with the liberal results and dependence created. I choose differently
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Yup you chose to avoid answering the question for dozens of posts. I would think you would want to educate people about all the good President Trump has done for the economy. No? Bummer that his most active supporters can't even name a single successful policy of his.

So much for his day one promises. He couldn't even do anything in a year!
 
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