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U.S. Defense Strategy Shifts Focus From Islamic Militants To Countering China/"Russia"

Consider 2-5 million dead and that is a very low number. What would you suggest?

2-5 million dead is NOT the same thing as ending human civilization.

You do realize that once the nuclear genie's out of the bottle, that we would truly be risking a general thermonuclear exchange, and that it would likely bring about an end to human civilization, don't you?
 
Are you really of the opinion that courage in war can only be credit to those who achieve victory in that war?

can bunch of slaves produce courage ? , answer is no, that's why the Persians didn´t have a chance against the Greeks, Muscovite armies (hordes) always have been bunch of meatballs , and yes, it has worked for them time to time, and you know why it doesn´t work for them today ? check out Muscovite demography year 2017 ;)
 
2-5 million dead is NOT the same thing as ending human civilization.

You do realize that once the nuclear genie's out of the bottle, that we would truly be risking a general thermonuclear exchange, and that it would likely bring about an end to human civilization, don't you?

I realize that point- I asked you what you suggest?
 
can bunch of slaves produce courage ? , answer is no, that's why the Persians didn´t have a chance against the Greeks, Muscovite armies (hordes) always have been bunch of meatballs , and yes, it has worked for them time to time, and you know why it doesn´t work for them today ? check out Muscovite demography year 2017 ;)

Using nukes is not on the table.
 
can bunch of slaves produce courage ? , answer is no, that's why the Persians didn´t have a chance against the Greeks, Muscovite armies (hordes) always have been bunch of meatballs , and yes, it has worked for them time to time, and you know why it doesn´t work for them today ? check out Muscovite demography year 2017 ;)

Really? That's your reply?

Here's a clue, guy - I spent twenty years in the military, and while I am (thankfully) not a combat vet, I do know that when the s**t hits the fan and lives are at stake, you're doing fighting or trying to save lives because of the flag, or because of country, or because you love the president...you're doing it because of your buddies, to protect them, to do what you've gotta do in order to keep you and yours alive...and the closer you are to the rest of your unit, the more you'll stand (or crawl) beside them when the bullets start flying, and the more you'll risk your life even against certain death to save them. That's not a matter of social status, but of simple human nature. Many fail the test...and many don't.

So YES, slaves can have as much courage as anyone else, absolutely they can! Ask the Janissaries and the Marmalukes! The difference, however, comes to the nature of the slavery...because if one is a slave from birth to death, who will always be legally owned by someone who literally has the power of life and death over that slave, then that slave is a heck of a lot less likely to risk his life for his owner...but this was not the case with pre-communism Russia. Why? While the people were in a largely feudal system, they were not treated as slaves were in our antebellum Deep South - the two systems were apples and oranges indeed. The Russian peasant, for all his grinding poverty, was still Russian, and all those around him were no more and no less Russian than he himself was. This kind of shared identity makes a huge difference. In contrast, during slavery in America, the slaves did not - indeed, could not - truly feel themselves to be American (much less Confederate, since yes, the war was about preserving slavery).

The Russians fought courageously as long as they could, and when they had no other choice, yes, they surrendered, often in great numbers. BUT that was when they had no other choice, when they had no ammo, food, and/or water, and they were surrounded...but every time, they did not reach that point because of any lack of courage of the individual soldier, but of the quality (or lack thereof) of the commander...or (even more often) a matter of abysmal logistics capability (as was almost always the case in WWI).

Do not make the mistake of underestimating your opponent, for such is the root cause of almost every great upset defeat in history. You mentioned the Mongols - every one of their opponents underestimated the Mongols...until the Mongols proved themselves and became feared from modern-day Poland to Korea. We badly underestimated the Japanese until they bloodied our noses at Pearl Harbor. Worst of all, we underestimated the Vietnamese, and they sacrificed at least two million of their people to our 55K dead to get us to leave. Think on that for a moment - they lost nearly 40 for every one of ours, and yet they still effectively won. And then go back to Russia, and you see the same thing - the shared courage of those in common cause. They might lose - as the Russians did several times - but accusing their soldiers of a lack of courage evinces a real lack of understanding of how and why they lost.
 
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I realize that point- I asked you what you suggest?

It's no different from MAD - we have to be as capable as they are when it comes to cyberwar, and we have to show them that we will wreak just as much destruction on them as they cause on us. What's more, we have non-military capabilities they don't have e.g. a worldwide trade network that we can use to isolate and impoverish their nation. Of course, that - and all the good will we'd built over the generations with our aid and support of other nations - has been effectively flushed down the toilet by Trump and the right-wing's utter rejection of diplomacy and how it applies to and is strengthened by international trade. It's going to take us many years to repair the damage Trump has done...but by then, China will certainly have replaced us as far as being the most influential nation...and probably irrevocably so. That's what the right-wing's "America Alone" (which is what their "America First" slogan is in reality) is doing to us.
 
It's no different from MAD - we have to be as capable as they are when it comes to cyberwar, and we have to show them that we will wreak just as much destruction on them as they cause on us. What's more, we have non-military capabilities they don't have e.g. a worldwide trade network that we can use to isolate and impoverish their nation. Of course, that - and all the good will we'd built over the generations with our aid and support of other nations - has been effectively flushed down the toilet by Trump and the right-wing's utter rejection of diplomacy and how it applies to and is strengthened by international trade. It's going to take us many years to repair the damage Trump has done...but by then, China will certainly have replaced us as far as being the most influential nation...and probably irrevocably so. That's what the right-wing's "America Alone" (which is what their "America First" slogan is in reality) is doing to us.


What a slanted argument you give - blowing hot & cold. When Trump says we should try to work with Russia on certain important issues like ISIS, then you call him a foreign stooge. When Trump stands up to China, then you selectively focus on that to call him a warmonger.

So basically, anything other than appeasement of China is "warmongering" while anything less than war with Russia is "appeasement" according to your highly skewed standards.
Your game sounds a lot like "heads I win, tails you lose" - it's a game of glass-half-empty and glass-half-full.
 
What a slanted argument you give - blowing hot & cold. When Trump says we should try to work with Russia on certain important issues like ISIS, then you call him a foreign stooge. When Trump stands up to China, then you selectively focus on that to call him a warmonger.

So basically, anything other than appeasement of China is "warmongering" while anything less than war with Russia is "appeasement" according to your highly skewed standards.
Your game sounds a lot like "heads I win, tails you lose" - it's a game of glass-half-empty and glass-half-full.

Next time try to refrain from making wild assumptions. For one thing, I like China a heck of a lot more than Russia, if for no other reason than the fact that Russia can destroy our nation while China cannot (and has shown no inclination to build up a nuclear arsenal big enough to do so). With the exception of Taiwan and some very small regional places on their borders, China's shown no apparent intent to expand, to engage in physical imperialism. Instead, they're all about the money, and they're being very smart about it.

Russia, on the other hand, is led by an ex-KGB colonel, and I remember the Cold War very well indeed. The Soviets (including KGB colonel Putin) lost the Cold War...and you think it's silly to think that maybe he (and most of the Russian government) wanted payback for their national humiliation? Anyone who thinks that Putin wasn't effectively conducting psyops on our population (as he had already done several times in Europe) is beyond naive.

Look, guy, Trump had many financial ties to Russia, and it's looking more and more like the Russian oligarchs were using his organization to launder money. If he knew about that, then that's a huge problem...but that's not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is that y'all elected a guy whom you knew had publicly and repeatedly taken the word of an ex-KGB colonel over that of our CIA/NSA/FBI...not only that, but Trump refuses to ever criticize Putin. In fact, Congress passed sanctions against Russia sometime last year with a veto-proof margin...and Trump's still slow-walking (or completely ignoring) the implementation of those sanctions. It doesn't take a whole lot of brainpower to see that Trump is being used - either willingly or unwillingly - as a tool by Putin.

That last paragraph isn't political "slant" - it's FACTS. The only reason y'all don't want to believe it is because your side won and you just don't want to ever consider the possibility that y'all got played by Putin. You'll even join Trump in taking Putin's word over that of our FBI/NSA/CIA, as long as you don't have to seriously consider the possibility that you got fooled.
 
Next time try to refrain from making wild assumptions. For one thing, I like China a heck of a lot more than Russia, if for no other reason than the fact that Russia can destroy our nation while China cannot (and has shown no inclination to build up a nuclear arsenal big enough to do so). With the exception of Taiwan and some very small regional places on their borders, China's shown no apparent intent to expand, to engage in physical imperialism. Instead, they're all about the money, and they're being very smart about it.

Russia, on the other hand, is led by an ex-KGB colonel, and I remember the Cold War very well indeed. The Soviets (including KGB colonel Putin) lost the Cold War...and you think it's silly to think that maybe he (and most of the Russian government) wanted payback for their national humiliation? Anyone who thinks that Putin wasn't effectively conducting psyops on our population (as he had already done several times in Europe) is beyond naive.

Look, guy, Trump had many financial ties to Russia, and it's looking more and more like the Russian oligarchs were using his organization to launder money. If he knew about that, then that's a huge problem...but that's not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is that y'all elected a guy whom you knew had publicly and repeatedly taken the word of an ex-KGB colonel over that of our CIA/NSA/FBI...not only that, but Trump refuses to ever criticize Putin. In fact, Congress passed sanctions against Russia sometime last year with a veto-proof margin...and Trump's still slow-walking (or completely ignoring) the implementation of those sanctions. It doesn't take a whole lot of brainpower to see that Trump is being used - either willingly or unwillingly - as a tool by Putin.

That last paragraph isn't political "slant" - it's FACTS. The only reason y'all don't want to believe it is because your side won and you just don't want to ever consider the possibility that y'all got played by Putin. You'll even join Trump in taking Putin's word over that of our FBI/NSA/CIA, as long as you don't have to seriously consider the possibility that you got fooled.
Putin and Trump have something else in common. They're both thieves. Putin is a seriously more effective leader. I've read he's the richest man in the world, with something between 40 and 80 billion. Trump over inflates his value, by design.

The Russian civil war was the first time in recorded history to turn urban elites into an army that rained hell on the rural population. Stalin use to order a specific number a murders during the purges. Ordering five thousand to be killed here and ten thousand to be killed there, ordering a specific number to be sent to prison. Funny how our election was a "revolution" against urban elites, when they weren't even in power.

We have something else in common. My nephew graduated very high at West point, of course, served in Afghanistan, my stepdad was retired airforce and an uncle who was a retired general.

Thank you for your courage and service to this great country.

Trump doesn't have the power ruin it. We'll be just fine.

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